shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Say what you want about the Tories and Brexit, but generally I've always been proud that British people don't buy into bullshit easily. It's protected us from fascism and now anti-vax nonsense. Makes me proud.
This is good on our part but we need everyone to vaccinate to open the world back up
Less than 50% in USA - led by the science lolThis is good on our part but we need everyone to vaccinate to open the world back up
It’s because we’ve told them it’s a British made vaccineSay what you want about the Tories and Brexit, but generally I've always been proud that British people don't buy into bullshit easily. It's protected us from fascism and now anti-vax nonsense. Makes me proud.
Say what you want about the Tories and Brexit, but generally I've always been proud that British people don't buy into bullshit easily. It's protected us from fascism and now anti-vax nonsense. Makes me proud.
You can't just pluck trained medical staff out of thin air though.
Even in hospitals they are using non ICU specialist nurses because there aren't enough specialist nurses to go round and they're having to treat 3 patients per nurse when it's usually one on one.
The underfunding chickens are coming home to roost unfortunately.
Say what you want about the Tories and Brexit, but generally I've always been proud that British people don't buy into bullshit easily. It's protected us from fascism and now anti-vax nonsense. Makes me proud.
We've been fucking up nursing recruitment for years from what I can tell. Saw something saying that Trusts had to show tight financial control at some point and the easiest way to do that was to just cut the nurse training places and just hire bank staff/immigrants. So the places dried up.
Now of course we've just told all those immigrant nurses to fuck off home.
You've been pushing this argument for ages and it's nonsense. We aren't locking down 'to protect the old people' we're locking down to ensure we have a health service at all and to protect the economy (people don't go out when there's a killer virus about lockdown or not - you want people to start spending/working you've got to make them feel safe by reducing the virus). And because if we let the virus run rampant it'll make vaccination and treatment harder.
Aren't the old people and the people with bad health conditions most likely to have to go into hospital though?
Exactly, so if old people and people are likely to be hospitalised by it stay at home, see nobody, lock their doors then they won't get it and won't need to go to hospital....The problem is if the hospitals are saturated with patients just for COVID it leaves them unable to manage everyone else.
Exactly, so if old people and people are likely to be hospitalised by it stay at home, see nobody, lock their doors then they won't get it and won't need to go to hospital....
The end of their livesUntil when?
As long as it takes, until their vaccine is fully working.Until when?
What criteria are you using here as 'bad health conditions'? Are you using those in vaccine priority group 4 which is clinically extremely vulnerable, or group 6 which is at-risk or anyone who would be classed as having a pre-existing condition on the ONS covid death stats?Aren't the old people and the people with bad health conditions most likely to have to go into hospital though?
What criteria are you using here as 'bad health conditions'? Are you using those in vaccine priority group 4 which is clinically extremely vulnerable, or group 6 which is at-risk or anyone who would be classed as having a pre-existing condition on the ONS covid death stats?
As long as it takes, until their vaccine is fully working.
It's all well and good police stopping people going for walks in the woods. They should be stopping people over a certain age that have left the house.
320k a day. come on!
Would be 2 and a quarter million a week. I'm wondering if for any reason it would go down at the weekend or on Sunday though?That’s the highest increase so far. Keep it up and we’re over 2 million a week. Brilliant news
Exactly, so if old people and people are likely to be hospitalised by it stay at home, see nobody, lock their doors then they won't get it and won't need to go to hospital....
Would be 2 and a quarter million a week. I'm wondering if for any reason it would go down at the weekend or on Sunday though?
Exactly, so if old people and people are likely to be hospitalised by it stay at home, see nobody, lock their doors then they won't get it and won't need to go to hospital....
I don’t know the numbers on those, the folks I know administering it are still doing weekends but might not be the case everywhere.
They are open weekends
Issue is stock though and can they keep it coming in
They are open weekends
Issue is stock though and can they keep it coming in
Of course, here’s hoping.
Hopefully it will be ok as the AZ vaccine is made in the UK as well
I heard differently (one of those friend of a friend ones admittedly) and that at least one of the trusts locally who had excess vaccines at the end of the day literally pulled staff off a ward and gave it to them.Issue is stock but places are being told to throw away excess vaccine at the end of the day rather than use it.
I heard differently (one of those friend of a friend ones admittedly) and that at least one of the trusts locally who had excess vaccines at the end of the day literally pulled staff off a ward and gave it to them.
I just can’t imagine staff within the NHS would let these go to waste? Or maybe I would hope they wouldn’t....
Going from this:
So just hearsay at the moment. Hope it stays that way.
Searching for that found stories from the States where they couldn’t find enough hospital employees and were barred from giving it to the public rather than let it go bad. Madness.
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