Brylowes
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With 10 million people (inc myself ) already jabbed up ‘let’s Hope they’ve got this spot on
With 10 million people (inc myself ) already jabbed up ‘let’s Hope they’ve got this spot onIt won't be long till we find out if they're correct or not.
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It's obviously just a way to save face, given they've ballsed up by not ordering enough, soon enough. Looks like we may have become independent at just the right time.It's a nice easy way out of a contract with AZ
With 10 million people (inc myself ) already jabbed up ‘let’s Hope they’ve got this spot on
It's obviously just a way to save face, given they've ballsed up by not ordering enough, soon enough. Looks like we may have become independent at just the right time.
Had my vaccine this morning. Like a military operation at the golf club in Leek Wootton. I was the youngest by a long chalk.
Agreed it doesn't prove Brexit correct, but it is one example of our ability to make decisions in our own best interests. Hopefully as we move forward with independence, we shall see more examples that benefit our nation..
I don't agree this proves Brexit was correct. There are plenty of negatives at the minute, Just ask the fishing industry.
However, I agree they've messed up. What I don't understand is the Germans saying the data is flawed but they were quite happy to pluck the 8 percent effacacy figure out the air based on nothing.
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I don't agree this proves Brexit was correct. There are plenty of negatives at the minute, Just ask the fishing industry.
However, I agree they've messed up. What I don't understand is the Germans saying the data is flawed but they were quite happy to pluck the 8 percent effacacy figure out the air based on nothing.
Agreed it doesn't prove Brexit correct, but it is one example of our ability to make decisions in our own best interests. Hopefully as we move forward with independence, we shall see more examples that benefit our nation.
A newspaper misinterpreted that. The German government are just saying there's not enough data... yet. That also seems the approach of France. Whenever the data is there to prove it's fine for over 65s, they'll use it.What I don't understand is the Germans saying the data is flawed but they were quite happy to pluck the 8 percent effacacy figure out the air based on nothing.
My issue is with their bully boy tactics since it became clear they've messed up regarding supply.
A newspaper misinterpreted that. The German government are just saying there's not enough data... yet. That also seems the approach of France. Whenever the data is there to prove it's fine for over 65s, they'll use it.
My understanding is that many were offered and asked and refused and she stepped up
Potentially the best news in 12 months
Covid-19: Study showing Oxford vaccine slows virus spread 'superb' - Hancock
As results show the Oxford jab may cut transmission, the health secretary says it offers a "way out".www.bbc.co.uk
Potentially the best news in 12 months
Covid-19: Study showing Oxford vaccine slows virus spread 'superb' - Hancock
As results show the Oxford jab may cut transmission, the health secretary says it offers a "way out".www.bbc.co.uk
It's obviously just a way to save face, given they've ballsed up by not ordering enough, soon enough. Looks like we may have become independent at just the right time.
The EU have a long history of employing bully boy tactics....they're just usually employed to trample over democratic decisions taken by sovereign states.....its just in this case, its to cover their own incompetent arses.
With all this positive news and data coming out,,does anyone want to have a stab at predicting what the residual effect will be.
Where we will be in a year or two ,and just what is likely to happen in the portion of society that does not become covered either through the percentage efficacy or non take up?
What does one do about a vaccine sceptic in the family though. My sister works in care homes and hasn't signed up to get it yet. My mother was the same but she went and had it done after something in the news spooked her.
She's not normally an anti vax nutter, all her kids are vaccinated and everything. She's just worried about the speed it's been developed in.
I've been on at her about her putting the residents at risk, that it's been approved, linking to studies about it working and she's still not making her mind up. I don't want to put too much pressure on her and put her off the whole thing just to piss me off but I want her to get fucking jabbed.
Any advice?
The development speed of a normal vaccine is down to £ more than anything else. The widespread impact of covid has meant that governments have underwritten massive investments straight off the bat, that's meant significantly more resource for the entire end to end process which means it is a lot quicker to bring something to market.What does one do about a vaccine sceptic in the family though. My sister works in care homes and hasn't signed up to get it yet. My mother was the same but she went and had it done after something in the news spooked her.
She's not normally an anti vax nutter, all her kids are vaccinated and everything. She's just worried about the speed it's been developed in.
I've been on at her about her putting the residents at risk, that it's been approved, linking to studies about it working and she's still not making her mind up. I don't want to put too much pressure on her and put her off the whole thing just to piss me off but I want her to get fucking jabbed.
Any advice?
What does one do about a vaccine sceptic in the family though. My sister works in care homes and hasn't signed up to get it yet. My mother was the same but she went and had it done after something in the news spooked her.
She's not normally an anti vax nutter, all her kids are vaccinated and everything. She's just worried about the speed it's been developed in.
I've been on at her about her putting the residents at risk, that it's been approved, linking to studies about it working and she's still not making her mind up. I don't want to put too much pressure on her and put her off the whole thing just to piss me off but I want her to get fucking jabbed.
Any advice?
The biggest misconception is the work on the vaccine started when the pandemic began.
And they had already developed a ChAdOx1 vaccine for Mers , which could train the immune system to spot the spike. The Oxford team were not starting from scratch.
"If this had been a completely unknown virus, then we'd have been in a very different position," Prof Pollard added.
I know this. I don't think there has been anything posted about vaccines on here that I haven't sent overThe development speed of a normal vaccine is down to £ more than anything else. The widespread impact of covid has meant that governments have underwritten massive investments straight off the bat, that's meant significantly more resource for the entire end to end process which means it is a lot quicker to bring something to market.
The vaccines have been through the same trial processes as any other vaccine and have been approved by regulatory bodies.
She once laughed and said she's not getting it because she doesn't want to grow two heads but generally seems to just be uncomfortable at the idea of unknown negative side effects.What is she worried about happening?
Board Up their doors, paint a big red X on the front, crack on with life.
Had my vaccine this morning. Like a military operation at the golf club in Leek Wootton. I was the youngest by a long chalk.
Interesting especially given the positive data from our live researchThe plot thickens - Switzerland says it doesn't have enough data to approve the AstraZeneca vaccine Rolling authorisation application for COVID-19 vaccines Swissmedic requests additional data
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