Yep....Early studies appear to show that all the vaccines to date offer good protection from serious illness & death......regardless of mutation this or variant that....
.....so if that continues to be the case, they can fuck right off with any further covid lockdowns post 2021....
We can all have a jab & crack on with life.....assuming we still have one left to live.....
I wonder if that is just that hospital, because I am hearing different from elsewhere. Much younger and I have friends, who have friends now on oxygen and in hospital and this is all in the past week.My wife works at the Horton in Banbury where they now have a Covid ward. Almost all of the patients are either elderly or very overweight. Goes to show getting the elderly and "vulnerable" jabbed asap will clear hospital beds most quickly.
Could be, the JR in Oxford has a far bigger operation and they might be "divi-ing" up their cases.I wonder if that is just that hospital, because I am hearing different from elsewhere. Much younger and I have friends, who have friends now on oxygen and in hospital and this is all in the past week.
They are all in their 40's.
How I love this thread...They are all in their 40's.
Hancock says people subject to hotel quarantine will have to pay £1,750
Hancock says the strategy to tackle new variants has four parts.
First, the government wants to get overall case numbers down.
Second, surge testing is being used to tackle new outbreaks.
Third, vaccines are being rolled out.
And, fourth, border controls are being tightened.
Hancock says he will focus on the border controls.
It is already illegal to travel abroad without a reason, he says.
People arriving already need a negative test before they start their journey. And arrivals have been banned for people coming from “red list” countries where the risk is particularly high.
But the government is going further from Monday 15 February, he says. He says these rules are for England, but he says the devolved administrations are bringing in their own plans.
There are three features to the new system: hotel quarantine, testing and enforcement.
People who need hotel quarantine will need to pay £1,750 per individual for the hotel, transport and testing.
He says arrivals will be taken to a designated hotel. The government has contracted with 16 hotels, for 4,600 rooms initially.
They will have to stay in their rooms and will not be allowed to mix with other guests. They will have to quarantine for 10 days, or longer if they test positive.
And there will be “visible security” in place to ensure people comply, he says.
More gaslighting, it's all due to the variants / people bringing it in for other countries...
4600 rooms? is that enough?
Would still like to know if there was a stage or mutations that led to it becoming lethal or more transmissible at that point from something similar or otherwise?Oh, this is maybe worth knowing, too.
Covid: WHO says 'extremely unlikely' virus leaked from lab in China
A team of international and Chinese experts say more work is needed to find the source of the virus.www.bbc.co.uk
The only thing it actually does is rinse my battery...Just checked. App was installed but not set up and enabled. Worth checking if anyone else upgraded their phone over lockdown.
Oh, this is maybe worth knowing, too.
Covid: WHO says 'extremely unlikely' virus leaked from lab in China
A team of international and Chinese experts say more work is needed to find the source of the virus.www.bbc.co.uk
Totally agree,Waste of space.I think we can take whatever that bunch of fucking clowns say with a pinch of salt. In the Chinese Governments pocket
Absolute piffle... it’s just word salad.
You been watching Trump speech re-runs again?I think we can take whatever that bunch of fucking clowns say with a pinch of salt. In the Chinese Governments pocket
Dunno. Dunno much about the WHO either.Genuine question: has there been any proof of dodgy stuff at the WTO or is this all nudge nudge wink wink?
Genuine question: has there been any proof of dodgy stuff at the WTO or is this all nudge nudge wink wink?
The 54 days programme was very balanced. China could have helped a lot moreTrump actually raised some salient points but it was mixed in with his usual helping of bullshit.
I've seen nothing to suggest there is any collusion between the Chinese authorities and the WHO bit I do think there was an initial cover up by the Chinese and a much higher death toll in Wuhan than reported.
I do think the WHO have allowed themselves to be led down the garden path.
I'm basing that on stuff I read by 'citizen journalists' and bloggers who contradicted the WHOs early assertion in a report that they released early last year that said the Chinese had done everything by the book.
Maybe it was actually 5he bloggers set up to spread false information, who knows in the world we live in.
Dunno. Dunno much about the WHO either.
What I do know is.
Pandemics aren't an uncommon thing.
Jumping from animal to human isn't uncommon.
Therefore, the most likely conclusion is that this is a natural phenomena, exacerbated by modern shrinking of the world.
Totally agree,Waste of space.
Piss up and brewery come to mind,Probably been bunged a few quid like fifa to keep things quiet!!
Not quite but the programme did show why they work with country’s with more patience than other organisations. The delay in confirming human to human caused massive issues for the world steve is rightWHO - Did the virus come from here?
Wuhan Lab- No
WHO - Oh ok, we'll go home now
Not talking political parties I’m talking China/Who and the communist cover up.Let me guess, you think Johnson is doing a good job?
So are they covering up because they are a) Communist b) Chinese or c) completely fucking corrupt and incompetent?Not talking political parties I’m talking China/Who and the communist cover up.
They were scared and manage information with an iron fist. They hoped it would be ok and when it wasn’t they couldn’t make decisions to be transparent quick enough. Look at how the world reacted to the uk variant and South African variant etc. Not confirming human to human for weeks was awful or that it was airborneSo are they covering up because they are a) Communist b) Chinese or c) completely fucking corrupt and incompetent?
Which would be solely down to point c) and nothing else I would suggest.They were scared and manage information with an iron fist. They hoped it would be ok and when it wasn’t they couldn’t make decisions to be transparent quick enough. Look at how the world reacted to the uk variant and South African variant etc. Not confirming human to human for weeks was awful or that it was airborne
Certainly incompetentWhich would be solely down to point c) and nothing else I would suggest.
And also wouldn't alter the fact it's natural causes.Which would be solely down to point c) and nothing else I would suggest.
If we’ve learnt nothing in this country over the last year - it’s that corruption and incompetence together is a deadly combination.And also wouldn't alter the fact it's natural causes.
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