Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Of course, it would just be nice to go to a restaurant and support those who must have been through the financial ringer. Though being consistent l won’t argue for school reopening after hospitality.

With schools I hope they use common sense, although haven't seen much of that so far, and if we're getting towards the end of the school year just call it a day. Hope they don't do something like get everyone back in for the last couple of weeks of term and then send everyone off for the summer break.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

With schools I hope they use common sense, although haven't seen much of that so far, and if we're getting towards the end of the school year just call it a day. Hope they don't do something like get everyone back in for the last couple of weeks of term and then send everyone off for the summer break.

My view is if they just wait until the summer term they could get a whole term in under close to ‘normal’ classroom conditions. By that point (mid April), our vaccine progress may well have reached a good % of secondary parents.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

My view is if they just wait until the summer term they could get a whole term in under close to ‘normal’ classroom conditions. By that point (mid April), our vaccine progress may well have reached a good % of secondary parents.

It would be worth putting that as an aspiration at least, and reviewing mid-March

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It would be worth putting that as an aspiration at least, and reviewing mid-March

Keeping in mind that the summer term is 3 months long this year also.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

My view is if they just wait until the summer term they could get a whole term in under close to ‘normal’ classroom conditions. By that point (mid April), our vaccine progress may well have reached a good % of secondary parents.

I said to the Mrs. that schools would be "shut" until after Easter on the day they closed them......

..I'm just getting more & more pissed off that they're not actually closed & more than half the kids are in school........

...and a significant chunk of secondary pupils who are not in school are mixing outside of it......

....fucking shambles.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I'm not surprised

Sorry, were you trying to infer that the situation wouldn't be as bleak under Corbyn?

 

[SBT]

10 years in jail for going abroad.
No holidays until everyone is jabbed.

I just don't believe anything they say anymore.

So border controls are now bad?

 

[jordan210]

13,043,051 first doses as of today

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sorry, were you trying to infer that the situation wouldn't be as bleak under Corbyn?

He couldn’t do any worse.

 

[Ian1779]

Sorry, were you trying to infer that the situation wouldn't be as bleak under Corbyn?

Yes it wouldn’t - he puts more value on the human life than the economy.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Sorry, were you trying to infer that the situation wouldn't be as bleak under Corbyn?

No, it was more the irony of a country which screams about communism, gulags, Marxism etc and then sits silently as a minister on national media talks about effectively banning foreign travel.

I doubt had Corbyn been elected and overseen well over 100k deaths he'd have even been Prime Minister after May 2020.

 

[clint van damme]

Wuhans hospital activity was satellite mapped and noted as highly active as far back as Sept. 2019.

what's the source of this?
There are molecular epidemiologists who've studied 1000s of samples and dispute the official version of events and the WHO report who still think the first case was late October.
The Lancet reported the first case as in November 17th based on information from Chinese scientists.

Be interested to see it if you've still got a link.

 

[wingy]

Well just to be clear, I'm not suggesting any mad conspiracy or planned releases or any such nonesense.....

...I just suspect another cover-up by the chinese state regarding an accidental biosecurity lapse.

I'm pretty sure I'd also be fairly suspicious if a deadly outbreak of something being studied/modified/weaponised broke out at a coffee shop just up the road from Porton Down to to be fair...

EDIT:



Yep...its virus after all.....we're not talking some geezer in raybans sneaking a test tube out under his raincoat.....

.......were just one faulty fume cupboard away from disaster man!

I'd love to know whether I had it as far back as June 2019 .

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

what's the source of this?
There are molecular epidemiologists who've studied 1000s of samples and dispute the official version of events and the WHO report who still think the first case was late October.
The Lancet reported the first case as in November 17th based on information from Chinese scientists.

Be interested to see it if you've still got a link.

Coronavirus may have been in Wuhan in August, study suggests

Research finds rise in hospital car park usage and web searches for ‘diarrhoea’ and ‘cough’

www.theguardian.com

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Meanwhile.....in Japan.....Doh!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56007070?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6023fe5da5360f02e49f01e0%26Japan%20to%20throw%20out%20one%20in%20six%20doses%20of%20Pfizer%20vaccine%262021-02-10T15%3A51%3A03.719Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:f2962586-7885-4b9e-aa4e-93dc3405b61b&pinned_post_asset_id=6023fe5da5360f02e49f01e0&pinned_post_type=share

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So border controls are now bad?
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Don't you think it kind of misses the point when you cannot leave your home but several flights from China are landing each day?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

No, it was more the irony of a country which screams about communism, gulags, Marxism etc and then sits silently as a minister on national media talks about effectively banning foreign travel.

I doubt had Corbyn been elected and overseen well over 100k deaths he'd have even been Prime Minister after May 2020.

Ok, sounds like something for the Corbyn thread.

 

[SBT]

Don't you think it kind of misses the point when you cannot leave your home but several flights from China are landing each day?

Not really, no. They've got it mostly under control and we haven't, so you're far more likely to pick up the virus from someone in your neighbourhood than from someone getting off a flight from Shanghai (who should have been tested before and after)

You can't spend all of 2020 demanding that Covid hotspots get shut off from the world, and then complain you can't go on holiday now that we're the hotspot.

 

[clint van damme]

Coronavirus may have been in Wuhan in August, study suggests

Research finds rise in hospital car park usage and web searches for ‘diarrhoea’ and ‘cough’

www.theguardian.com

It's a real rabbit hole when you start looking into it. Probably better leaving it to the experts.
Though something doesn't add up.

 

[Ian1779]

Not really, no. They've got it mostly under control and we haven't, so you're far more likely to pick up the virus from someone in your neighbourhood than from someone getting off a flight from Shanghai (who should have been tested before and after)

You can't spend all of 2020 demanding that Covid hotspots get shut off from the world, and then complain you can't go on holiday now that we're the hotspot.

I’ll be amazed going forward if they don’t shut us out of the world if we don’t get our shit together. We’ve one chance to finally do this right with the vaccinations rolling out - please don’t fuck it up racing out of lockdown to appease some knobhead Tory MP’s that are parroting the wishes of their financial acquaintances.

 

[clint van damme]

ESB your quotes not showing but
You're a bit younger than me so this might be a bollocks suggestion but when things started opening up a bit last year did a couple of camping weekends and after been couped up they felt far better than a few days in a field with a carry out should.

Hopefully they'll be open in spring even.if nothing else is

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not overly concerned about going on holiday this year, even though could do with one. I'm quite happy with things staying as they are as long as gyms and football comes back at grass roots. Plays a massive part with my mental health and stops me getting in a rut and staying there.

 

[Saddlebrains]

It's a real rabbit hole when you start looking into it. Probably better leaving it to the experts.
Though something doesn't add up.

My thoughts exactly. I think the vast majority of us believe that it was around before the official dates given, and that China suppressed their deaths cases etc way more than they let on

 

[hill83]

Off for my jab this morning!

Keep your chin tucked and your hands up.

 

[hill83]

You can't spend all of 2020 demanding that Covid hotspots get shut off from the world, and then complain you can't go on holiday now that we're the hotspot.

Oh they can indeed. And believe me they will.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Not really, no. They've got it mostly under control and we haven't, so you're far more likely to pick up the virus from someone in your neighbourhood than from someone getting off a flight from Shanghai (who should have been tested before and after)

You can't spend all of 2020 demanding that Covid hotspots get shut off from the world, and then complain you can't go on holiday now that we're the hotspot.

If you believe everything coming out of China then I feel sorry for you, I suspect moreover that you were probably one of the people complaining about the term 'China virus', but were probably fine about 'strain Anglais'.

Sounds like a very self-defeatist attitude to be honest.

Also your point about holiday doesn't make sense, considering the sequence of events.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

ESB your quotes not showing but
You're a bit younger than me so this might be a bollocks suggestion but when things started opening up a bit last year did a couple of camping weekends and after been couped up they felt far better than a few days in a field with a carry out should.

Hopefully they'll be open in spring even.if nothing else is

Yeah, for sure. Even a BBQ in the garden at this point would feel like a luxury I think.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, for sure. Even a BBQ in the garden at this point would feel like a luxury I think.

Miller and Carter. Fuck it being £50 and probably not worth it

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

From a guardian story

g news that in Britain, an island, the cumulative Covid death toll has surpassed 100,000. On the same day, we learn that our death rate per head of population is the highest in the world. As the country reels from these calamitous statistics, the prime minister insists that his government “truly did everything we could to minimise loss of life”. Yet a quarter of those deaths have occurred in 2021

A quarter of the deaths in the last 4 weeks! What a mess and so avoidable

Don’t know how Health Secretary and prime minister can face the press

 

[wingy]

Expansive article about mutations.

A lone infection may have changed the course of the pandemic

The number of mutations in the UK variant took scientists by surprise. Now they think its origins may lie in one person, chronically infected with the virus

www.wired.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

From a guardian story

g news that in Britain, an island, the cumulative Covid death toll has surpassed 100,000. On the same day, we learn that our death rate per head of population is the highest in the world. As the country reels from these calamitous statistics, the prime minister insists that his government “truly did everything we could to minimise loss of life”. Yet a quarter of those deaths have occurred in 2021

A quarter of the deaths in the last 4 weeks! What a mess and so avoidable

Don’t know how Health Secretary and prime minister can face the press

Said before Pete some of them should be in the dock to answer for their actions after this is done. Criminal negligence nothing less

 

[covmark]

Yeah it's fucking scandalous tbh. This shit has been going on since last February. Yet a quarter of deaths have occurred in the last 4 weeks. Shitcunt politicians, the lot of them.

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[clint van damme]

Yeah it's fucking scandalous tbh. This shit has been going on since last February. Yet a quarter of deaths have occurred in the last 4 weeks. Shitcunt politicians, the lot of them.

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They haven't got time to be managing the pandemic and getting up to the old corruption.

 

[chiefdave]

news that in Britain, an island, the cumulative Covid death toll has surpassed 100,000. On the same day, we learn that our death rate per head of population is the highest in the world. As the country reels from these calamitous statistics, the prime minister insists that his government “truly did everything we could to minimise loss of life”. Yet a quarter of those deaths have occurred in 2021

In a way you become numb to the figures, certainly to how badly they compare to the rest of the world.

I was watching the NHL ice hockey highlights yesterday and they spoke about the possibility of limited crowds returning in the Canadian division in the next few weeks as Canada is starting to move out of lockdown. In some places stay at home orders have been limited, non-essential stores and restaurants are opening up. Thought it seemed a bit soon so checked online for more info and read an article that said they'd passed 20K deaths, assumed the number was wrong as its so low but turns out its correct.

This is a country where everything I hear on podcasts, online news etc is that the response from national and provincial government has been appalling yet they’re doing far better than us and, as recent polling shows, the majority of people here seem to think Johnson and co and doing a wonderful job.

 

[jordan210]

This chart is kinda crazy. Shows Us and Sweden and how similar the virus has acted vs two different approaches.

the virus does what it does Regardless of what you do to try stop it.