Excess deaths is nothing to do with testing. Time to stop this conspiracy nonsense and accept we haven’t done a good job at reducing mortality.
Im not saying the gov have not totally cocked this up. What I'm saying if you don't test the same you dont get the same results.
We test everyone in hospital multiple times. others don't do any testing in hospitals or in general. So cause of death is put down as different things.
Not closing the boarders last Feb/March well when ever really as still open is the biggest problem !
Im not saying the gov have not totally cocked this up. What I'm saying if you don't test the same you dont get the same results.
We test everyone in hospital multiple times. others don't do any testing in hospitals or in general. So cause of death is put down as different things.
Not closing the boarders last Feb/March well when ever really as still open is the biggest problem !
Im not saying the gov have not totally cocked this up. What I'm saying if you don't test the same you dont get the same results.
We test everyone in hospital multiple times. others don't do any testing in hospitals or in general. So cause of death is put down as different things.
Not closing the boarders last Feb/March well when ever really as still open is the biggest problem !
Again, cause of death isn’t the same as excess deaths. Totally accept your point on cases, have always said case data isn’t reliable. But the reliable data we do have shows the same story.
And yeah, not closing borders has been a massive mistake.
Who's she marrying?The missus is clinging to being able to have a semi normal wedding in the summer to keep her going through the ridiculous workload, it's why I'm praying they don't reopen the schools too soon because that will fuck the summer good and proper.
Who's she marrying?
Numbers down again, lowest daily deaths for 6 weeks even given the usual Monday drop.
Good news.
tbf the trend's downwards but, if it wasn't, it'd be *really* worrying given the measures in place!What is it 73 or 75 less than the same day last week? I'll wait
I know it's the way the figures are recorded, the husband of a friend of ours died over the weekend. It was through liver failure, but while in hospital tested positive for Covid 19. This will be in the Covid death figures as tested and died within the 28 day period, although it was definitely not the cause of death. It's not all it seems!!!!!!
But there are others who don't get picked up, or die from complications after 28 days.I know it's the way the figures are recorded, the husband of a friend of ours died over the weekend. It was through liver failure, but while in hospital tested positive for Covid 19. This will be in the Covid death figures as tested and died within the 28 day period, although it was definitely not the cause of death. It's not all it seems!!!!!!
Hmm, maybe a signature change is needed...As stated earlier, excess deaths will be the most accurate indicator
He died within the 28 days of his test, so although cause of death was liver failure, he will also be counted in the Covid deaths within 28 days of the test.We've discussed this before. And while there have been many examples of these types of cases there are also many where covid is the cause but the person has died after the 28 day cut off point so the death hasn't been recorded as covid.
As stated earlier, excess deaths will be the most accurate indicator
He died within the 28 days of his test, so although cause of death was liver failure, he will also be counted in the Covid deaths within 28 days of the test.
Have to say I am completely perplexed at the Governments ridiculous hesitance at tightening the borders!!!
Why are we still talking about mandatory quarantines, needs for negative tests etc. just do it you incompetent buffoons.
Yes I’m a royalist,But this is so wrong!!
Mike Tindall claiming furlough cash despite £15m fortune and being married to Queen’s granddaughter Zara Phillips
Zara's hubby Mike Tindall claiming furlough cash despite £15m fortune
ROYAL husband Mike Tindall has been claiming furlough cash for his business even though he is reportedly worth more than £15million. The ex-England rugby star, 42 — married to the Queen’s grand-dau…www.thesun.co.uk
My wife works at the Horton in Banbury where they now have a Covid ward. Almost all of the patients are either elderly or very overweight. Goes to show getting the elderly and "vulnerable" jabbed asap will clear hospital beds most quickly.
The best way to prevent lots of medical issues is losing a bit of weight and trying to be healthy. So makes no sense closing parks/ tennis courts and other out door fitness. If anything it should have been encouraged.
UK could be trapped in lockdown cycles for 'several YEARS', SAGE warns
Professor Sir Ian Boyd, from the University of St Andrews and a member of SAGE, said potentially jab-resistant strains means the UK could be stuck in a pattern of 'control and release for a long time'.www.dailymail.co.uk
We need some modelling on excess death data based on efficacy against serious illness. If everyone got mildly ill and didn’t end up in hospital, I don’t see the issue.
Yep....Early studies appear to show that all the vaccines to date offer good protection from serious illness & death......regardless of mutation this or variant that....
.....so if that continues to be the case, they can fuck right off with any further covid lockdowns post 2021....
We can all have a jab & crack on with life.....assuming we still have one left to live.....
I wonder if that is just that hospital, because I am hearing different from elsewhere. Much younger and I have friends, who have friends now on oxygen and in hospital and this is all in the past week.My wife works at the Horton in Banbury where they now have a Covid ward. Almost all of the patients are either elderly or very overweight. Goes to show getting the elderly and "vulnerable" jabbed asap will clear hospital beds most quickly.
Could be, the JR in Oxford has a far bigger operation and they might be "divi-ing" up their cases.I wonder if that is just that hospital, because I am hearing different from elsewhere. Much younger and I have friends, who have friends now on oxygen and in hospital and this is all in the past week.
They are all in their 40's.
How I love this thread...They are all in their 40's.
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