Brighton Sky Blue
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I support it reopening under the proposed timeline with the measures that were in place before. I’m not comfortable being in school under the measures but ain’t got a choice either.
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I support it reopening under the proposed timeline with the measures that were in place before. I’m not comfortable being in school under the measures but ain’t got a choice either.
No axe to grind or particular opinion.
Would this reverse the status quo from around a year ago?
Should this be an issue in an era where we give over every bit of information about ourselves just to function .
Should we take it in context of the never ending creep of surveillance?
It is related to public health , what level of infection should determine this as we are told consistently we can't eradicate it.
Would this reverse the status quo from around a year ago?
Should this be an issue in an era where we give over every bit of information about ourselves just to function .
Should we take it in context of the never ending creep of surveillance?
It is related to public health , what level of infection should determine this as we are told consistently we can't eradicate it.
It would be unfair. As I understand it they would only bring the passports in after every adult has been offered a vaccine so I’m guessing this might be more focussed on autumn period onwards. It feels like it’s a way of encouraging vaccine take up to me
ps I personally can’t see why it should be needed once a majority of the adult population is vaccinated anyway (unless new variants appear but then I guess vaccines may become irrelevant then anyway). After that, we’re all grown ups, we should decide our own risks in life...unless you work around elderly etc
clint van damme
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Fuck em, the young bastards!
Brighton Sky Blue
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I agree, I’m just totally sick of it at this point.
Ccfcisparks
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Why not
Evo1883
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For starters it will be hugely damaging to pubs and their business
Secondly we don't want to be in a position where we have to flash a little card to live a normal life ffs
It's not East Germany
Ccfcisparks
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Not at all, have someone at the door scanning. I'm sure than more enough people would be in favour of it to keep them in business.
Evo1883
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Why on earth do you want us to live that way ...it's a revolting concept.
Ccfcisparks
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At the moment its completely sensible. Prevents people who are not protected acting irresponsibly
Evo1883
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No sorry its an ugly shit idea that will kill off too many bars and pubs
Ccfcisparks
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Evo are you getting the vaccine? If so, why are you so against it.
Evo1883
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I am getting the vaccine of course..but I'm against this
Pubs will suffer massively, no point opening nightclubs until later this year either as most u21 won't be vaccined until then anyway , alot of inner city bars will suffer too
Not to mention its a twatty idea to carry a card around saying you haven't got the lurgy
The extremely vulnerable have been vaccinated, the deaths to under 40s don't warrant this kind of action
Until Britain has vaccinated most people, then it's better to just continue to reasonably socially distance
Ccfcisparks
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To an extent I agree. Although I am against nightclubs opening up as they were, at least for the time being.
Evo1883
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Life should return to normal after weve been vaccinated , we should however be sensible with border restrictions if other countries still lag behind
chiefdave
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Surely better for the business than having to stay closed completely?
Evo1883
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With a vaccine passport alot may Aswell just shut completely as many pubs won't make it past summer at this rate.
Why on earth do people want to carry a card around to say they've been vaccinated .
Continue with reasonable social distancing measures until Britain completes it vaccination program
And then get back to bloody normal and if the most vulnerable need annual jabs , then that's what should happen
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Skybluefaz
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But if we have vaccine passports we can get Dido Harding / Hancock's pal / Harry Redknapp's dog in charge of it all and pay them eleventy billion for the privilege.
Evo1883
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This is more like it lol
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I'm assuming this is another thing Johnson is just spouting off that will end up dying a death and pretending it was never suggested.
Brylowes
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who’s calling the shots, Boris Johnson v Tim Martin = Out of the frying pan into the microwave.
fernandopartridge
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Well it won't, will it? They'd have to employ somebody to do it so they're down already
fernandopartridge
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That's a false dichotomy
Ccfcisparks
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Why couldn't door staff do it?
fernandopartridge
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Most pubs don't employ them
Grendel
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most pubs don’t have door staff
chiefdave
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Wouldn't be any different to now being allowed in under age would it? Bar staff check id for that.
fernandopartridge
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Yes it would. ID is checked for people who look 25 and under, who might represent a small percentage of punters.
Vaccine checks for everybody entering a pub? If it's a busy pub what's the point if the unvaccinated potentially infectious person stands at the bar for 15 minutes waiting?
It's totalitarian nonsense. Sorry.
jordan210
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The whole idea of vaccine checks for non travel is ridiculous. But also would be very difficult to set up.
Setting up an app with the QR code for individuals is the east part. You would then need a system to validate the QR at pub side. On top of this you would still need formal ID at the same time. Other wise could be anyone using someone else's QR.
This would not only be slow. It would also cost hundreds of millions if not more in infrastructure.
For travel its not as difficult as would have your passport with you.
Setting up an app with the QR code for individuals is the east part. You would then need a system to validate the QR at pub side. On top of this you would still need formal ID at the same time. Other wise could be anyone using someone else's QR.
This would not only be slow. It would also cost hundreds of millions if not more in infrastructure.
For travel its not as difficult as would have your passport with you.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Consider the case rate last summer when we had nobody vaccinated and tell me why this is needed when by June well over half of all adults will have been jabbed once if not twice?
Grendel
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It’s laughable - let’s say a woman has t had the jab as she’s expecting - should she be ostracised from society until she has a baby?