Nick
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How about we just stop people coming over from India full stop until they have sorted their shit?
Have you read the article? It quotes Indian doctors saying there's a huge surge in younger patients, with 65% of hospital admissions under 45. Also talks about symptomatic cases in children under the age of 12 when there was virtually none prior to the variant.
Of course we need to open back up as soon as possible and to a certain extent we have to learn to live with it. I'm hoping that as more data comes in it will be shown that it is safe to proceed as planned but it would be foolish to once again ignore the experts and end up back in lockdown for an extended amount of time. I'd rather have a couple more weeks now than be back in lockdown for months again.
Hopefully this time it actually sinks in that when the experts are telling you that people from a certain country need to be quarantined the government actually takes action.
I think just about all of us on here would be happy with tougher border controls (and more decisive ones, too!). That's about the one thing we can all agree on!!How about we just stop people coming over from India full stop until they have sorted their shit?
Have you read the article? It quotes Indian doctors saying there's a huge surge in younger patients, with 65% of hospital admissions under 45. Also talks about symptomatic cases in children under the age of 12 when there was virtually none prior to the variant.
Of course we need to open back up as soon as possible and to a certain extent we have to learn to live with it. I'm hoping that as more data comes in it will be shown that it is safe to proceed as planned but it would be foolish to once again ignore the experts and end up back in lockdown for an extended amount of time. I'd rather have a couple more weeks now than be back in lockdown for months again.
Hopefully this time it actually sinks in that when the experts are telling you that people from a certain country need to be quarantined the government actually takes action.
SAGE would want us locked down forever if it was up to them, its time we moved on and learnt to live with it
The alternative is a return to the utter chaos Boris lad orchestrated last year. You remember that don’t you?SAGE would want us locked down forever if it was up to them, its time we moved on and learnt to live with it
To be honest I'd be up for similar restrictions to Australia if that's what it takes. But at the very least get the quarantine in place as soon as the experts say it is needed. How many times do we have to repeat the same mistakes?How about we just stop people coming over from India full stop until they have sorted their shit?
Said it before that a "variant" will mean there's more lockdown, rinse and repeat every single time.
I don’t think it will
Such a load of BS about this Indian variant keeping us from fully reopening, its not more deadly but is more transmissible! So why when everybody who's older/vunerable have had their jabs do we need to still have social distancing measures? It doesn't make sense
Hopefully people will stand up against it now because it seems like the goalposts will be moved forever
Why would it be chaos, we have a good size of the population vaccinated and this new variant isn't known to be more dangerous/evade the vaccineThe alternative is a return to the utter chaos Boris lad orchestrated last year. You remember that don’t you?
So what then? Lets keep going back into lockdowns yeah?You haven’t got a fucking clue.
SAGE would want us locked down forever if it was up to them, its time we moved on and learnt to live with it
So what then? Lets keep going back into lockdowns yeah?
Now the vaccination programme has largely covered the most vulnerable, the age cohort segments do not matter so much. It would make more sense to concentrate on the people most likely to spread virus which is younger people socialising.
It doesn't make sense to have voterID cards when we don't have an issue with electoral fraud either but there you go.
So what then? Lets keep going back into lockdowns yeah?
At least once more.To be honest I'd be up for similar restrictions to Australia if that's what it takes. But at the very least get the quarantine in place as soon as the experts say it is needed. How many times do we have to repeat the same mistakes?
So what then? Lets keep going back into lockdowns yeah?
A top scientist explains why a more infectious coronavirus variant is a bigger problem than a deadlier strain
"Higher transmission is, in general, going to be a much bigger problem than the equivalent change in intensity," Adam Kucharski told Business Insider.www.businessinsider.com
Science thinks Dom's a plum as well
The alternative is a return to the utter chaos Boris lad orchestrated last year. You remember that don’t you?
Yep, fine by me. Stick me under house arrest until the end of time, fucking love it I do.
Here’s an activity for you, google the word “nuance”.
Yep, fine by me. Stick me under house arrest until the end of time, fucking love it I do.
Here’s an activity for you, google the word “nuance”.
Got to start using up that stockpile we’ve been building on 18-30s in hotspot areas of you ask me. And stop Fucking letting people from virus hotspots into the country.
Got to start using up that stockpile we’ve been building on 18-30s in hotspot areas of you ask me. And stop Fucking letting people from virus hotspots into the country.
Got to start using up that stockpile we’ve been building on 18-30s in hotspot areas of you ask me. And stop Fucking letting people from virus hotspots into the country.
Even when they decided to move it, they gave people a week to get home before implementing anything!the government should 100% have stuck India on the red list a bit sooner
Even when they decided to move it, they gave people a week to get home before implementing anything!
Wouldn't be doing that anyway if you did that right. Let them back, but just do some proper quarantine rather than this flimsy nonsense we have.The flip side though is leaving U.K. nationals stuck in India when there’s a humanitarian shitstorm taking place.
Fact is if people followed the guidelines and properly isolated on return the spread should be minimised
Wouldn't be doing that anyway if you did that right. Let them back, but just do some proper quarantine rather than this flimsy nonsense we have.
That's the issue when guidelines aren't enforced properly, though.
I won’t be best pleased if this delays relaxing of restrictions, the government should 100% have stuck India on the red list a bit sooner
However, a couple of additional points, firstly, what the fuck were people doing travelling to/from india anyway ? Secondly, why weren’t they self isolating for two weeks on return ?
Thankfully, it appears the vaccines work against the Indian variant and we’ve got nearly all high risk double jabbed now (as chart above shows) and over 40s single jabbed, so even if case numbers spike it hopefully shouldn’t translate to increased hospital admissions
Agree with comments about just opening up vaccines to all 18-40 now as well, especially if there are concerns about anticipated lower uptake...as long as that works ok logistically.
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