Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (57 Viewers)

hill83 · Jun 8, 2021

chiefdave said:
Is there a silent majority that are wary of venturing back out into the world?

Could well be, but for what it’s worth. I don’t know anyone at all (in the real world) who has an issue with them following the data and possibly delaying for two weeks, considering we aren’t locked down anyway, which people seem to have forgotten again. And the only shouting I see about it is the same 5 blokes on here and the daily mail.

Edit: I do know someone actually from the local but he reckons Bill Gates wants half the world population killed with vaccine microchips.

MusicDating · Jun 8, 2021

chiefdave said:
Think there's an element of some groups shouting louder than others and making them seem larger.

I've noticed a couple of events recently where tickets haven't exactly been flying out the door despite all this supposed pent up demand. Download Festival is taking place at the end of June, albeit with a greatly scaled back line-up. 10K limit with 2022 ticket holders having priority (2019 had 80K attendance to give an indicator). The expectation was those tickets would be gone on priority but they made general sale and are still available now.

Similarly it was the NIHL (ice hockey) finals this weekend. First ice hockey in 18 months where attendance was allowed, capped at 500 when it would normally be multiple times that. Wasn't anywhere close to selling out.

Is there a silent majority that are wary of venturing back out into the world?

It's an interesting point. My friend mentioned Download, which surprised me. Could it be partly fear related, but also partly not wanting to plan too much to have it cancelled last min? Also I guess the demographic of Download is younger people who haven't been vaccinated? But then aren't they desperate to party?! I think what I'm saying is I have no idea

hill83 · Jun 8, 2021

I’ve not seen anyone kicking off about having to wear masks any pub I’ve been to either. Everyone has been absolutely spot on steaming or not. If we do delay it’s a bit annoying I’ll need to book somewhere for the Czech Republic game though rather than pile in anywhere.

shmmeee · Jun 8, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Very surprised by that

The public has consistently been more cautious than any politician on this basically.

CCFCSteve · Jun 8, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Of course they're testing the waters. That's how a Johnson govt operates. Get the info out, see if it's popular and then set policy accordingly, regardless of whether it's the right thing to do.

To be honest I think this will work in favour of opening, as they wouldn't be testing the waters if there wasn't some advice saying they should delay. But if there's enough complaints about being held back (which I think there will be) they'll fuck the scientists and go with what's popular. I certainly think they will be more (or at least louder) complaints about delaying than there will be about opening. I know some think it's all 'lockdown lovers' getting their way but we've already started to open up twice before way before we were ready because of noisy people wanting restrictions lifted, leading to an even longer lockdown overall and tens of thousands more deaths.

This time I reckon the vaccine will be the game changer. Cases will rise, but hospitalisations and deaths will remain much lower than before.

There’s all sorts going on from gov and gov scientists (has been all the way through). There’s an element of testing the waters, managing expectations, trying to ensure people don’t go too crazy too soon etc etc

Just pleased we’ve got some good weather which will hopefully help (more people meeting outdoors rather than in)

Nick · Jun 8, 2021

Looks like Vaccine Passports will be a thing

Vaccine passports to be used at Wembley

England's Euro 2020 group games at Wembley Stadium will be the first sporting event at which vaccine passports will be used in the UK.

www.bbc.com

chiefdave · Jun 8, 2021

Nick said:
Looks like Vaccine Passports will be a thing

Vaccine passports to be used at Wembley

England's Euro 2020 group games at Wembley Stadium will be the first sporting event at which vaccine passports will be used in the UK.

www.bbc.com

Its actually a relaxation of the current rules. All the test events have required a negative test no matter what your vaccination status. This is saying that you now only need a test if you aren't fully vaccinated.

David O'Day · Jun 8, 2021

chiefdave said:
Its actually a relaxation of the current rules. All the test events have required a negative test no matter what your vaccination status. This is saying that you now only need a test if you aren't fully vaccinated.

Yeah and it can't be a vaccine passport if you don't need to be vaccinated

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 8, 2021

chiefdave said:
Its actually a relaxation of the current rules. All the test events have required a negative test no matter what your vaccination status. This is saying that you now only need a test if you aren't fully vaccinated.

A bit unfair when under 25s haven’t been offered one jab yet but I can see both sides

chiefdave · Jun 8, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
A bit unfair when under 25s haven’t been offered one jab yet but I can see both sides

You can still get in with a negative test, its not only people who have been vaccinated. My question has always been if all the test events are either negative test only or now fully vaccinated people how does that give us any data on events run as 'normal', unless that plan is for this to be how everything operates moving forward.

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 8, 2021

Nick said:
Then an another 2 weeks.

Oh look a new strain, we had best go back a step and close everything.

It's always going to be around, hospitals aren't over flowing.

Would be sensible

shmmeee · Jun 8, 2021

Nick said:
Club Heat.

If it makes no difference, what's the point in delaying it?

I thought personal services were open again

It was a serious Q tho, I thought it was just the rule of six that’s left now.

Grendel · Jun 8, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
There’s all sorts going on from gov and gov scientists (has been all the way through). There’s an element of testing the waters, managing expectations, trying to ensure people don’t go too crazy too soon etc etc

Just pleased we’ve got some good weather which will hopefully help (more people meeting outdoors rather than in)

The notion Jeremy Hunt is testing the water for Boris Johnson is amusing. “Is the bath water cool enough Mr Hunt”

“Oh yes” as the Thermometer reaches 1,000 degrees

Tommo1993 · Jun 8, 2021

Took nearly 3 hours on the booking system to arrange my first vaccine. Booked for Friday. Can’t get my second until end of August.

skybluetony176 · Jun 8, 2021

Grendel said:
The notion Jeremy Hunt is testing the water for Boris Johnson is amusing. “Is the bath water cool enough Mr Hunt”

“Oh yes” as the Thermometer reaches 1,000 degrees

That’s nothing. Priti Patel has a thermometer that goes up to three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand degrees.

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 9, 2021

Definite third wave but not being reflected in hospitalisations and deaths . On infection alone I think a delay is going to be sensible now

jordan210 · Jun 9, 2021

8 in 10 adults have antibodies

fernandopartridge · Jun 9, 2021

jordan210 said:
8 in 10 adults have antibodies

Well 7.7 in 10 have had at least one vaccine dose, so you'd have hoped it would be higher with acquired immunity too

jordan210 · Jun 9, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
Well 7.7 in 10 have had at least one vaccine dose, so you'd have hoped it would be higher with acquired immunity too

it doesn’t include T and B cell so will be higher.

also is nearly a month out with data so will be higher still.

Ian1779 · Jun 9, 2021

@Brighton Sky Blue - some good news on that front for you hopefully?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 9, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
There’s all sorts going on from gov and gov scientists (has been all the way through). There’s an element of testing the waters, managing expectations, trying to ensure people don’t go too crazy too soon etc etc

Just pleased we’ve got some good weather which will hopefully help (more people meeting outdoors rather than in)

Increasingly now the bulk of new infections are coming from schools which we were laughed at previously for saying would happen.

Ian1779 said:
@Brighton Sky Blue - some good news on that front for you hopefully?

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All fingers crossed

fatso · Jun 10, 2021

When the fuck did the Indian variant suddenly become the Delta variant???

I've only just got used to marathons becoming snickers bars ffs !!!

SBAndy · Jun 10, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Increasingly now the bulk of new infections are coming from schools which we were laughed at previously for saying would happen.

Best stay in your box then!

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 10, 2021

SBAndy said:
Best stay in your box then!

I am being a good boy

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 10, 2021

fatso said:
When the fuck did the Indian variant suddenly become the Delta variant???

I've only just got used to marathons becoming snickers bars ffs !!!

The WHO reclassified them weeks ago

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 10, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The WHO reclassified them weeks ago

Can’t wait to when they get to the letter I when we’ll have the India variant

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 10, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Can’t wait to when they get to the letter I when we’ll have the India variant

I think they’re already at kappa

fatso · Jun 10, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The WHO reclassified them weeks ago

Why ?

shmmeee · Jun 10, 2021

fatso said:
Why ?

Probably because b.1.524.242 or whatever isn’t particularly snappy.

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 10, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think they’re already at kappa

Boo

Sick Boy · Jun 10, 2021

shmmeee said:
Probably because b.1.524.242 or whatever isn’t particularly snappy.

I think it’s also to stop discrimination and the like.

Nick · Jun 10, 2021

Where does it say the number of tests done per day compared to cases?

fernandopartridge · Jun 10, 2021

Nick said:
Where does it say the number of tests done per day compared to cases?

It's all here

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

Some people calculate test positivity rate which accounts for increased or decreased testing. It's all going in the wrong direction.

chiefdave · Jun 10, 2021

Nick said:
Where does it say the number of tests done per day compared to cases?

On here, go into Testing. Tests dropped off a lot last week but its going back up now.
Daily summary | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)

fatso · Jun 10, 2021

Sick Boy said:
I think it’s also to stop discrimination and the like.

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