Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (23 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

but with that Sarah Everard virgil being littered with paid actors

Fact Check-The protester arrested at Sarah Everard vigil is not a crisis actress

Social media users have claimed that a woman who was arrested at a vigil for Sarah Everard is a crisis actress. There is no evidence that this is true.

www.reuters.com

 

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[COV]

Fact Check-The protester arrested at Sarah Everard vigil is not a crisis actress

Social media users have claimed that a woman who was arrested at a vigil for Sarah Everard is a crisis actress. There is no evidence that this is true.

www.reuters.com

What is the obsession with making up things like this? I don’t get what people gain from it

 

[shmmeee]

Right.

Here is why all conspiracy theories are bollocks in a nutshell:

Thousands of people can’t keep a secret. It’s never happened in human history. The end.

No Dave on Twitter hasn’t cracked it wide open. No TruthSeeker420 on YouTube hasn’t found evidence in publicly available media.

No governments haven’t all got together and mind controlled a bunch of scientists and medical professionals to not only lie but keep this lie from everyone they know.

Maybe, just maybe, people with limited critical thinking skills and a penchant for taking half rumours and expanding them into M Night Shayamalan scripts have got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Fact Check-The protester arrested at Sarah Everard vigil is not a crisis actress

Social media users have claimed that a woman who was arrested at a vigil for Sarah Everard is a crisis actress. There is no evidence that this is true.

www.reuters.com

She had a website (which I can't find now but was listing her under their acting agency at the time.

Taken from another article though:

"Stevenson is a university student, who describes herself as “not an activist or protester”. The 28-year old from Southend is also a part-time model and actress."

 

[skybluetony176]

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.

Can actors not catch Covid?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Right.

Here is why all conspiracy theories are bollocks in a nutshell:

Thousands of people can’t keep a secret. It’s never happened in human history. The end.

No Dave on Twitter hasn’t cracked it wide open. No TruthSeeker420 on YouTube hasn’t found evidence in publicly available media.

No governments haven’t all got together and mind controlled a bunch of scientists and medical professionals to not only lie but keep this lie from everyone they know.

Maybe, just maybe, people with limited critical thinking skills and a penchant for taking half rumours and expanding them into M Night Shayamalan scripts have got the wrong end of the stick.

No one is saying covid is a hoax.

Using actors to make videos that try to paint a picture to encourage people to get a vaccine is not beyond their remit though. Don't you think? I can see why this would have legs.

I said things would be extended by a few weeks and was called a conspiracy theorist. I even said I knew more people that had the virus now and had coincidentally had got the vaccine since. I was also labelled a conspiracy theorist for that. Now both of those things seem to be true and I haven't had one apology.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Can actors not catch Covid?

Using one for a case study when the public are nervous and distrusting might not be a great idea though right?

Again, I never said he didn't have covid. Just like the Sarah Everard virgil, the person caught up in it was an actor - fact. Wether that has anything to do with why they are there is up to anyone to determine for themselves. I am only sharing what I have read.

 

[COV]

Anyone got any idea how long the side effects last? I feel like shit 36 hrs later

 

[skybluetony176]

Who knows, but with that Sarah Everard virgil being littered with paid actors, people have jumped on the bandwagon with this. I guess people can make their own minds up.

Personally have no idea, but thought I would share it on here as it is worth talking about I think.

What? You mean actors are banned from protests? Someone should have told John Boyega.

Serious question. How many times have you won the Nigerian lottery and are you still expecting the payout?

 

[skybluetony176]

Using one for a case study when the public are nervous and distrusting might not be a great idea though right?

Again, I never said he didn't have covid. Just like the Sarah Everard virgil, the person caught up in it was an actor - fact. Wether that has anything to do with why they are there is up to anyone to determine for themselves. I am only sharing what I have read.

Only if you’re a moron.

 

[skybluetony176]

Anyone got any idea how long the side effects last? I feel like shit 36 hrs later

From the vaccine? Different for everyone in that case. My wife got knocked out by the first one and basically spent a week in bed. Second one nothing at all. For me felt a little ache the next day until late afternoon then nothing of note, second one spent a weekend in bed.

 

[COV]

From the vaccine? Different for everyone in that case. My wife got knocked out by the first one and basically spent a week in bed. Second one nothing at all. For me felt a little ache the next day until late afternoon then nothing of note, second one spent a weekend in bed.

Yes vaccine- first one I felt nothing, this time aching all over, sweating like a pig, headache and nausea, it’s bloody horrible

 

[COV]

Using one for a case study when the public are nervous and distrusting might not be a great idea though right?

Again, I never said he didn't have covid. Just like the Sarah Everard virgil, the person caught up in it was an actor - fact. Wether that has anything to do with why they are there is up to anyone to determine for themselves. I am only sharing what I have read.

So you wash your hands of expressing any opinion on whether it’s true but feel duty bound to pass it on?

 

[David O'Day]

With all the talk of paid crisis actors when did we become QAnon and 4Chan?

 

[hill83]

I said things would be extended by a few weeks and was called a conspiracy theorist. I even said I knew more people that had the virus now and had coincidentally had got the vaccine since. I was also labelled a conspiracy theorist for that. Now both of those things seem to be true and I haven't had one apology.

An apology for what?
You know more people who have the virus now because it is more transmissible and we are in the process of unlocking. You were suggesting it was weird. It’s not weird. It’s perfectly understandable. No apology needed.

Many people suggested things would or could be extended. No apology needed.

And now bollocks about actors. I’m trying to avoid this place but you are an odd bloke.

 

[SBT]

Using actors to make videos that try to paint a picture to encourage people to get a vaccine is not beyond their remit though. Don't you think? I can see why this would have legs.

It would be a huge international scandal, likely resulting in the resignation of top executives at ITV and the NHS, and a full independent inquiry. Which, on balance, probably wouldn't be worth it for the sake of a story that gets 280 retweets on the ITV News Twitter account.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So you wash your hands of expressing any opinion on whether it’s true but feel duty bound to pass it on?

Sorry mum.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

An apology for what?
You know more people who have the virus now because it is more transmissible and we are in the process of unlocking. You were suggesting it was weird. It’s not weird. It’s perfectly understandable. No apology needed.

Many people suggested things would or could be extended. No apology needed.

And now bollocks about actors. I’m trying to avoid this place but you are a odd bloke.

So if what I said was true, why is it odd?

Don't go round throwing insults about. There is no need.

 

[clint van damme]

Right.

Here is why all conspiracy theories are bollocks in a nutshell:

Thousands of people can’t keep a secret. It’s never happened in human history. The end.

No Dave on Twitter hasn’t cracked it wide open. No TruthSeeker420 on YouTube hasn’t found evidence in publicly available media.

No governments haven’t all got together and mind controlled a bunch of scientists and medical professionals to not only lie but keep this lie from everyone they know.

Maybe, just maybe, people with limited critical thinking skills and a penchant for taking half rumours and expanding them into M Night Shayamalan scripts have got the wrong end of the stick.

Although the American government dismissed all the conspiracies about their antics in Nicaragua as started by crackpot, until they turned out to be true.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Only if you’re a moron.

Why the insults? I didn't even say I believed it myself. I just posted a tweet and pointed out the guy in the video is an actor, which is true.

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?

 

[COV]

Why the insults? I didn't even say I believed it myself. I just posted a tweet and pointed out the guy in the video is an actor, which is true.

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?

Do you believe it?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Do you believe it?

Why are you pushing me for an opinion so badly?

You definitely are Ring of Steel. Straight out of the same playbook.

 

[skybluetony176]

Yes vaccine- first one I felt nothing, this time aching all over, sweating like a pig, headache and nausea, it’s bloody horrible

Sounds like what I had with the second one. I had 2 days of it, by the evening of the second day I started feeling better all of a sudden. Rest, paracetamol and ride it out. Hopefully you’ll be feeling better tomorrow.

 

[COV]

Sounds like what I had with the second one. I had 2 days of it, by the evening of the second day I started feeling better all of a sudden. Rest, paracetamol and ride it out. Hopefully you’ll be feeling better tomorrow.

It’s bloody horrible… don’t like being ill, makes me grumpy

Having said that, this is small beer really, christ only knows what the real deal covid is like, this shit certainly makes me feel like being a bit more careful than I was being

 

[Deleted member 5849]

An apology for what?
You know more people who have the virus now because it is more transmissible and we are in the process of unlocking. You were suggesting it was weird. It’s not weird. It’s perfectly understandable. No apology needed.

Many people suggested things would or could be extended. No apology needed.

And now bollocks about actors. I’m trying to avoid this place but you are an odd bloke.

Ultra transmissable virus gets transmitted when restrictions loosened, shocker.

 

[skybluetony176]

Why the insults? I didn't even say I believed it myself. I just posted a tweet and pointed out the guy in the video is an actor, which is true.

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?

Sorry Earlsdon. It’s just Marc Almond getting his stomach pumped after taking a line up of sailors nonsense. I can laugh it off when it’s not serious but when people start believing this childish nonsense and it is serious it boils my piss.

 

[COV]

Why are you pushing me for an opinion so badly?

You definitely are Ring of Steel. Straight out of the same playbook.

I’m not pushing, that’s the first time I asked if you believed it.

If I read something and I don’t believe it I don’t tend to put it up online as if it were real, that’s all.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It’s bloody horrible… don’t like being ill, makes me grumpy

Having said that, this is small beer really, christ only knows what the real deal covid is like, this shit certainly makes me feel like being a bit more careful than I was being

Yeah, my first vaccine had me floored for about three days, second one was basically AOK. Quite happy with that really, as if those are the mild side effects, bring them on in comparison to the real thing!

 

[SBT]

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?

You mean like suggesting that undercover agents may be trying to scare the population into a mass vaccination campaign?

 

[COV]

You mean like suggesting that undercover agents may be trying to scare the population into a mass vaccination campaign?

Who said that?

It was the thousands of painful deaths that scared me into having a vaccination, no need for secret agents to be sneaking around

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I’m not pushing, that’s the first time I asked if you believed it.

If I read something and I don’t believe it I don’t tend to put it up online as if it were real, that’s all.

The comments underneath from the moonbats are weird as fuck, granted. But if they have used a case study with an actor then, in my opinion, it is silly at best.

 

[shmmeee]

Although the American government dismissed all the conspiracies about their antics in Nicaragua as started by crackpot, until they turned out to be true.

How do we know this Clint?

Because someone couldn’t keep a secret.

Also that’s not thousands of people.

Have a look at this:

Basically the higher you go the more people needed to keep the secret. That’s not a coincidence. CIA ops and Britneys Dad are one thing. The entire worlds medical staff are another.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How do we know this Clint?

Because someone couldn’t keep a secret.

Also that’s not thousands of people.

Have a look at this:
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Basically the higher you go the more people needed to keep the secret. That’s not a coincidence. CIA ops and Britneys Dad are one thing. The entire worlds medical staff are another.

No mention of Christianity on there shmmee did you remove it?

 

[Philosoraptor]

Can't remember anyone sharing a Tweet by CCC before.

Needs a read.

 

[clint van damme]

We know it because the whole thing

How do we know this Clint?

Because someone couldn’t keep a secret.

Also that’s not thousands of people.

Have a look at this:
View attachment 20940
Basically the higher you go the more people needed to keep the secret. That’s not a coincidence. CIA ops and Britneys Dad are one thing. The entire worlds medical staff are another.

We know it because a plane crashed and the whole thing started to unravel.
Now I'm not for one minute advocating for the nonsense on YouTube or Facebook but there are plenty of examples of the official narrative being manipulated