Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)
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Tommo1993
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Ugh, don’t. I wince every time I hear it.
Nick
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The media I think, cunts
Sky Blue Pete
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No and we have to yes
Nick
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So again this should be about awareness too from the top.
It's all well and good saying close the country down or lock yourself away to stop COVID.
People should be made aware that if possible (note the if possible) then they should look to alter diet, exercise etc. (Again, people need exercise for mental health as well as losing weight, the whole first lockdown when people were being stopped for walks in the country was pathetic).
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep and no one (notice the word no one) is saying close the country down and lock yourself away to stop Covid. We can’t stop it we need to live with it.
Brighton Sky Blue
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There seems to me to be suddenly no faith in vaccination as sufficient protection. If it isn’t then we may as well permanently close every indoor business
I do feel it could actually be better.
Easy in hindsight mate, they were flying blind.
Sky Blue Pete
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It works brilliantly just not 100%
Brighton Sky Blue
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I agree but brilliantly should be enough
Brighton Sky Blue
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Went to buy some shoes, had to put on disposable socks to try them on. Then went to buy a shirt and was told it’s not possible to try them on so you have to pay then and bring it back if it doesn’t fit.
Surface transmission is not a thing FFS
Surface transmission is not a thing FFS
LastGarrison
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The last few pages have been pretty timely for me.
Missus (double vaccinated) started getting a bit of a cough Tuesday so did a lateral flow test Wednesday and was negative, cough still there so did a lateral flow Thursday morning still negative.
Then got messages off her mates later that morning that 4/7 mates she was out with Sunday have tested positive with PCR tests (one works in a school, another a prison) so both me and her went for a PCR test yesterday.
Got our results this morning and she is positive and I am negative!!! I’m also double jabbed, have no symptoms but have got to stay in for a full 10 days? Why can’t I just got for another PCR test on say Monday if I have no more symptoms?
We were meant to be at her Goddaughters wedding tomorrow as well which obviously we now can’t go to. Which is a bonus!
Missus (double vaccinated) started getting a bit of a cough Tuesday so did a lateral flow test Wednesday and was negative, cough still there so did a lateral flow Thursday morning still negative.
Then got messages off her mates later that morning that 4/7 mates she was out with Sunday have tested positive with PCR tests (one works in a school, another a prison) so both me and her went for a PCR test yesterday.
Got our results this morning and she is positive and I am negative!!! I’m also double jabbed, have no symptoms but have got to stay in for a full 10 days? Why can’t I just got for another PCR test on say Monday if I have no more symptoms?
We were meant to be at her Goddaughters wedding tomorrow as well which obviously we now can’t go to. Which is a bonus!
Brighton Sky Blue
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Did she have any other symptoms LG? At least the vaccine blocked infection in your case
Brighton Sky Blue
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Shouldn't it say 'Party Pooper' on BoJo's shirt?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I don't think you can get much better than 90% plus reduction on hospitalisation rates
robbiekeane
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Sky Blue Pete
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Something will change about self isolation before august 19 it’s got to
Evo1883
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We will never get to full vaccination anyway as there are alot who simply won't have the jabs ..so we have to leap into the unknown at some point no matter what.
Be in now or In 3 months that time will come and the same anxieties people have will be present .
And whenever we do it infections and hospitalisations will inevitably rise .
Be in now or In 3 months that time will come and the same anxieties people have will be present .
And whenever we do it infections and hospitalisations will inevitably rise .
Sky Blue Pete
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The graph in July is a little worse
Nick
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Wasn't the month after the first one the same?
Sky Blue Pete
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Not sure what you mean these were the two I’ve seen. Vaccination has made everything possible but not without serious illness and death and risk. But we all agree on that
skybluetony176
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This is shaping up to be another fine mess from Lardy.
www.independent.co.uk
NHS summer crisis: Major hospital cancels all planned operations today and tomorrow
Cancer operations among those cancelled at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham
www.independent.co.uk
This is shaping up to be another fine mess from Lardy.
NHS summer crisis: Major hospital cancels all planned operations today and tomorrow
Cancer operations among those cancelled at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham
As Whitty indicated the alternative is to push this wave into autumn/winter where there is even less available beds. Or stay in lockdown for the next year ? They reckon due to last years lockdown and limited flu spread there could be 60k deaths
Just googled and found this...
Act now or NHS could be overwhelmed this winter, report warns
Report commissioned by chief scientific adviser says Covid, flu and RSV could push health service to breaking point
This is obviously not just Johnson’s calls. There’s no easy way out of this mess. The current spread and hospitalisations have been accentuated by poor/slow take up of vaccine in certain ages and regions...maybe this is where people should be focussing more of their frustrations !
Edit - mentioned before, with hindsight I wouldn’t be surprised if they wish they’d allowed a greater gradual spread amongst certain age groups last summer, even without the vaccine
COV
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As Whitty indicated the alternative is to push this wave into autumn/winter where there is even less available beds. Or stay in lockdown for the next year ? They reckon due to last years lockdown and limited flu spread there could be 60k deaths
Just googled and found this...
IAct now or NHS could be overwhelmed this winter, report warns
Report commissioned by chief scientific adviser says Covid, flu and RSV could push health service to breaking pointwww.google.co.uk
This is obviously not just Johnson’s calls. There’s no easy way out of this mess. The current spread and hospitalisations have been accentuated by poor/slow take up of vaccine in certain ages and regions...maybe this is where people should be focussing more of their frustrations !
Edit - mentioned before, with hindsight I wouldn’t be surprised if they wish they’d allowed a greater gradual spread amongst certain age groups last summer, even without the vaccine
Not disagreeing at all but why is it all or nothing, why can’t we have no lockdown plus some available beds too- why is it 100% one or the other, have we learned nothing in the last 18 months
skybluetony176
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We’re in this mess right now for one reason only. Boris failed to put India on the red list soon enough. We could have been 4 weeks further into the vaccine program so he’s missed 2 opportunities to slow the spread of the delta variant. How many more people can be double dosed in 4 weeks?As Whitty indicated the alternative is to push this wave into autumn/winter where there is even less available beds. Or stay in lockdown for the next year ? They reckon due to last years lockdown and limited flu spread there could be 60k deaths
Just googled and found this...
IAct now or NHS could be overwhelmed this winter, report warns
Report commissioned by chief scientific adviser says Covid, flu and RSV could push health service to breaking point
This is obviously not just Johnson’s calls. There’s no easy way out of this mess. The current spread and hospitalisations have been accentuated by poor/slow take up of vaccine in certain ages and regions...maybe this is where people should be focussing more of their frustrations !
Edit - mentioned before, with hindsight I wouldn’t be surprised if they wish they’d allowed a greater gradual spread amongst certain age groups last summer, even without the vaccine
chiefdave
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The vaccine is brilliant but no vaccine is every going to be 100% and we're now seeing fully vaccinated people in hospital and dying. Shouldn't it be a case of having the vaccine alongside at least minimal attempts to reduce transmission?
If the vaccines cut risk of hospitalisation by 90% that's still a 1 in 10 chance of being hospitalised if you get it and when there's nothing being done to prevent spread and Javid predicting over 100K cases a day I don't think its unreasonable for people to have concerns. We seem to have come full circle back to the 'its only the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions' like they are expendable.
Again the messaging is all over the place and trying to find reliable information is hard. You've got people saying if you're fully vaccinated you can get back to normal life and not worry but then you've got the likes of Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter saying, “I’m 67, vaxxed to the eyeballs but actually an-unvaxxed 30 year old still has lower risk of dying from COVID than I have.”
chiefdave
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COV
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I thought it meant that you can still get it, but the immunity meant that you might not even realise it/ only get mild symptoms?
hill83
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It isn't right. It'll reduce the probability of hospitalisation by 90%, from whatever percentage it was in the first place.
Of course, the multiplier is spread x probability of hospitalisation as to how much of an overall risk it is. We're increasing the former while reducing the latter.
fernandopartridge
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It isn't right
Your personal risk of hospitalisation is cut by 90%, not that 1 in 10 are at reduced risk.
So, that's why you see old people still being admitted, cos their chances of hospitalisation were already so much higher. The vaccine might bring their chances down by 90% but it still means they could be more likely to be hospitalised than say a 15 year old without a vaccine.