Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (121 Viewers)

CCFCSteve · Aug 1, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
What I’m saying to you is show me the hard evidence on why uptake is lower rather than speculating that it’s just because young people are idiots.

Google the reasons why they aren’t. Many aren’t idiots but just haven’t changed their views. Many don’t think it’s something that effects them or certainly not enough to warrant ‘the risk’ of getting vaccinated. It’s an outdated view. I can’t get in their heads, have they not bothered following the news, too busy to read more recent real world data/evidence, follow idiots on social media ?! Who knows.

I think more will get vaccinated when they see friends or family contract Covid. Again, the numbers are still good but there’s a large number unvaccinated

ps reasons like risk to fertility, other possible side effects, ‘would rather wait’, risk of clotting from vaccine etc. My point is that there is now evidence dealing with all/majority of these. Why aren’t they accepting this evidence is the question ?

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 1, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
Google the reasons why they aren’t. Many aren’t idiots but just haven’t changed their views. Many don’t think it’s something that effects them or certainly not enough to warrant ‘the risk’ of getting vaccinated. It’s an outdated view. I can’t get in their heads, have they not bothered following the news, too busy to read more recent real world data/evidence, follow idiots on social media ?! Who knows.

I think more will get vaccinated when they see friends or family contract Covid. Again, the numbers are still good but there’s a large number unvaccinated

If I Google I’ll see anecdotes, what I want are some surveys of this age group along with other groups we know to be more hesitant.

Interesting that you mention not keeping up with more recent data when furiously disinfecting surfaces remains a widespread practice in most places despite us having known for ages that it isn’t surface transmitted.

Sick Boy · Aug 1, 2021

There’s probably greater infertility risk from actually getting covid rather than the vaccines.

CCFCSteve · Aug 1, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
If I Google I’ll see anecdotes, what I want are some surveys of this age group along with other groups we know to be more hesitant.

Interesting that you mention not keeping up with more recent data when furiously disinfecting surfaces remains a widespread practice in most places despite us having known for ages that it isn’t surface transmitted.

Yeah, I agree, it’s bizarre. I wonder if a lot of that is to give people visual/mental comfort

Also hygienic so not the end of the world !

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 1, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, I agree, it’s bizarre. I wonder if a lot of that is to give people visual/mental comfort

Also hygienic so not the end of the world !

That is basically it, giving the perception of preventing infection for low cost compared to taking proper steps to ventilate spaces which would be more expensive and less visible.

If you stay at a hotel they’ll be fine letting you go around without a mask but you’ll have to eat out of cardboard boxes, not get your room serviced and you’ll see the staff furiously bleaching the hand rails.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
All of that. There’s just a real scepticism as well. They think they know better than the medical profession, are ignoring the real world data and would rather take advice from tik tok (couldn’t resist the last one )

I still believe that vaccination should be an individuals choice and can understand some of the younger adults genuine arguments, however, I think a lot of these have been debunked by the Delta Variant, which does appear to have a greater impact on the young. It’s also been proven the risks of clotting etc from covid are far greater than from any of the jabs. It’s like they haven’t updated their knowledge from 9-12 months ago !

Some of it's bad communication too. I only realised it was now officially OK for pregnant women to have the jab the other day, when they were complaining barely any were having it.

If they were like me, that may have been the first they knew it was OK!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, I agree, it’s bizarre. I wonder if a lot of that is to give people visual/mental comfort

Also hygienic so not the end of the world !

For me, it's hard to get out a habit you've been told to do, especially when you have a slight disposition to OCD and your brain is fried anyway!

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 1, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
For me, it's hard to get out a habit you've been told to do, especially when you have a slight disposition to OCD and your brain is fried anyway!

I can get that in individuals but not really in large organisations

Tommo1993 · Aug 1, 2021

Sick Boy said:
There’s probably greater infertility risk from actually getting covid rather than the vaccines.

It was a big worry in our house before that vaccine/infertility theory was nipped in the bud. We’re now trying to save to have private medical help, otherwise next available appointment on NHS is summer 2023!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can get that in individuals but not really in large organisations

If it's as well as I have little problem - as Steve says, does little harm. I agree if instead of getting ventilation right, etc.

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 1, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
If it's as well as I have little problem - as Steve says, does little harm. I agree if instead of getting ventilation right, etc.

It’s quite labour intensive for not much gain and if anything some of the products used are more irritant to you than lingering microbes. We cannot spend the rest of our lives worrying about germs to this extent and as we may well see with the resurgence of flu this winter it does more harm than we might think.

wingy · Aug 1, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s quite labour intensive for not much gain and if anything some of the products used are more irritant to you than lingering microbes. We cannot spend the rest of our lives worrying about germs to this extent and as we may well see with the resurgence of flu this winter it does more harm than we might think.

IDK if furlough is closing shortly, a little job creation can't harm?

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 1, 2021

wingy said:
IDK if furlough is closing shortly, a little job creation can't harm?

We seem to be ignoring the environmental aspect of using so much disposable stuff when there is no need. Many more jobs could be created through investment in proper ventilation of indoor businesses and transport

Sick Boy · Aug 2, 2021

Second dose done - my phone just suddenly became 5G.

Nick · Aug 2, 2021

Was a couple of young people on the news this morning about the "prizes for vaccines".

No surprise they were activist type bellends who will no doubt be the first to scramble the placards if they were refused treatment.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Aug 2, 2021

They used to do the queue jump passes at Rosie Malones 'Ivy House' or whatever for Colly Monday.

Instead of buying 6 drinks to get it, just get your jab in return.

Problem solved by about 11pm tonight.

AOM · Aug 2, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
They used to do the queue jump passes at Rosie Malones 'Ivy House' or whatever for Colly Monday.

Instead of buying 6 drinks to get it, just get your jab in return.

Problem solved by about 11pm tonight.

Put it on Deliveroo

Torquay Sky Blue · Aug 4, 2021

It's official. All you vaccine heroes can go and get your kids done now

Sick Boy · Aug 4, 2021

Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid

John Eyers had been climbing mountains four weeks before his death in intensive care

www.theguardian.com

shmmeee · Aug 4, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid

John Eyers had been climbing mountains four weeks before his death in intensive care

www.theguardian.com

The key bit of info:

COV · Aug 4, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid

John Eyers had been climbing mountains four weeks before his death in intensive care

www.theguardian.com

christ, thats terrible- he was in good shape as well

shmmeee · Aug 4, 2021

Reckon the Darwin Awards will do a group entry this year?

COV · Aug 4, 2021

shmmeee said:
Reckon the Darwin Awards will do a group entry this year?

All I know is that the way I felt after the second jab, I do not ever, ever want to experience what the actual virus must be like if you had a bad case

Sick Boy · Aug 4, 2021

COV said:
All I know is that the way I felt after the second jab, I do not ever, ever want to experience what the actual virus must be like if you had a bad case

I had mine on Monday afternoon and only just feel something approaching normality.

COV · Aug 4, 2021

Sick Boy said:
I had mine on Monday afternoon and only just feel something approaching normality.

What did you have? Mine was Pfizer- felt nothing first time round but second one KO'd me for days.

Sick Boy · Aug 4, 2021

COV said:
What did you have? Mine was Pfizer- felt nothing first time round but second one KO'd me for days.

Both doses were Pfizer as well. The first one was manageable but yesterday I felt like shit, also had problems sleeping.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2021

COV said:
All I know is that the way I felt after the second jab, I do not ever, ever want to experience what the actual virus must be like if you had a bad case

See I was absolutely shite after my first (AZ) but fine after my second.

Hoping that's the trajectory if Covid ever finds its way past my defences!

Kieranp96 · Aug 4, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Both doses were Pfizer as well. The first one was manageable but yesterday I felt like shit, also had problems sleeping.

You lot Must be unlucky I ha dmy jabs both didn't even touch me, worst part about the jab was the stupid women ramming it in my shoulder and causing me to bleed

fernandopartridge · Aug 4, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid

John Eyers had been climbing mountains four weeks before his death in intensive care

www.theguardian.com

I saw the tweet from his twin sister about it the other day.

I saw this tweet from another person, a vaccine sceptic who had been hospitalised and was deteriorating. I keep looking in and there has been no update which doesn't bode well:

day7heman

Liquid Gold · Aug 4, 2021

I felt fine after both Pfizer jabs. Just a bit of a dead arm.

I’m not sure that’s a good thing though as my body just accepted it in.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
I felt fine after both Pfizer jabs. Just a bit of a dead arm.

I’m not sure that’s a good thing though as my body just accepted it in.

My Aunt kindly told me that people with a bad reaction would have had Covid *really* badly.

I checked... and it's not true.

Vaccine side effects: My experience of them and what they mean

Why do some people get side effects - and do they mean you have greater protection?

www.bbc.co.uk

clint van damme · Aug 4, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
I felt fine after both Pfizer jabs. Just a bit of a dead arm.

I’m not sure that’s a good thing though as my body just accepted it in.

always wondered this about a hangover, are you better to get them or not?
Is not getting one a sign of your body not even bothering to right itself?

fernandopartridge · Aug 4, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
I felt fine after both Pfizer jabs. Just a bit of a dead arm.

I’m not sure that’s a good thing though as my body just accepted it in.

I felt a little bit odd after my second but nothing major at all

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Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2021

clint van damme said:
always wondered this about a hangover, are you better to get them or not?
Is not getting one a sign of your body not even bothering to right itself?

I know when I was younger I could shrug them off. Now my entire weekend plus is gone!

Evo1883 · Aug 4, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
I saw the tweet from his twin sister about it the other day.

I saw this tweet from another person, a vaccine sceptic who had been hospitalised and was deteriorating. I keep looking in and there has been no update which doesn't bode well:

day7heman

He had asthma

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