Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (235 Viewers)
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fernandopartridge
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Was gonna post this myself, another esteemed tweeter said the results were still "off the charts". Get it into people's arms.
Skybluefaz
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You still haven't told me why lockdowns don't work.
Common sense, you cabt eradicate it so immunity is the only way to go unless you want to just hide in your house.
Skybluefaz
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No, the poster in question was saying lockdowns didn't work. My point was what controlled the spread of the virus last January for example - pre vaccine - if it wasn't the lockdown?
Sky Blue Pete
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Wow glad you’re not in power in any capacity. Just let it run is not a solution surely
So run and hide against something not much deadlier than ths flu?
Its going to eun its course anyway whether we lockdown or not thats my point.
They do work for a time at slowing the spread but thsn what as soon as you unease thsy go up again, and ahain stary infecting the eldererly and weak, there is no way to stop it if there was we would of locked down for what ever that period of time would of been.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He is right that it won’t be eradicated. He is wrong to suggest that we just let it rip before vaccinating most of the population. Brazil now is basically a variant factory due to that line of thinking
ESB will be happy.
Austria to go into full lockdown as Covid surges
As well as Monday's lockdown, the chancellor says vaccinations will be compulsory from February.www.bbc.co.uk
Was always going to happen. A lot of these half hearted restrictions are unlikely to have a huge impact once transmission is above a certain level. From memory unvaccinated Austrians could still leave the house to go to work ?!...I mean...come on
. I’ll be interested to see if Holland’s 7pm curfew has a huge impact...all I know is when they tried the 10pm curfew here loads were out on the piss from 1pm Saturdays...suddenly everyone wanted bottomless brunch tables...even 20 stone geezers !
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...and my neighbour kept having house parties, where he'd have probably been safer staying in the pub!
Sick Boy
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Get fucked.
You know im right.
Sick Boy
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It’s clearly more deadly than the flu and you’re writing it on a thread where a poster in his mid 30s died from it - have some respect.
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I don't understand why it's so difficult for some to grasp that yes, it will still be among us - the Black Death and Spanish flu are still among us! But that the whole point is to get society to a stage that when it *isn't* as much of a threat, we've got there without *too* much collateral damage.
It's not a hard concept!
fernandopartridge
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It is much deadlier than the flu you complete clown
chiefdave
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Finally some good news on variants. A study from Imperial confirms the initial findings of the Health Security Agency that the AY.4.2 variant, known as child of delta in the press, which is thought to be 10 - 15% more transmissible than delta but produces fewer symptomatic people.
This is what we were told about variants to start with, they would become more transmissible but less dangerous. Its still not great in terms of how many people get ill but if we start going down the road of variants being weaker and still covered by the vaccine that can only help.
This is what we were told about variants to start with, they would become more transmissible but less dangerous. Its still not great in terms of how many people get ill but if we start going down the road of variants being weaker and still covered by the vaccine that can only help.
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That's the way out, for sure.
chiefdave
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Was an interesting interview with a virologist on the radio the other day. He said historically pandemics burn themselves out in a couple of years.
That puts us to next spring so if we can get through the winter without the NHS collapsing a combination of the third dose seemingly producing the best protection yet & lasting longer, less dangerous variants and anti-viral treatments coming online there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.
We could finally reach the 'its just like flu' stage and it will just be an annual booster for the vulnerable and those that want it as we do with flu.
Who? When?
As for more deadlier the flu kills many 30 year olds per year, unfortunately someone here lost their life but at the end of the day csnt keep locking down because of something thats going ro be here for ever, do we lock Down everytime we have a flu outbreak?
It isnt though, its shown that the flu is like. 00.48% mortality and covid is 00.53 or some shit for anyone under 80, but wven over 80. Flu or covid the mortality rate goes up, and dame goes for those with health issues. You're the clown thinking locking down every few weeks will solve the issue.
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Yeah, as ever winter is the tough time, so it'll be see how we go next winter I guess, to see if we're truly over it. Proceed with optimistic caution is probably fair, however!
It was made public sometime in june that covid was at its peak of sickness and from here in out it would get weaker and weaker, unless it somehow found away to avoid vaccines and antibodys it will eventually just be the common cold.
Our hospitalisations and deaths are going down so surley we're a bit ahead of everyone else, especially with the natuaral immunity and the vaccinations, i doubt we will see another peak of 60k cases a day in this country this year, could be wrong but hope not.
fernandopartridge
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I've not said that you oaf, it can't be denied that lockdown in March 2020 prevented people dying and only an idiot would claim otherwise. I don't believe in lockdowns now we have a vaccine.
You can't write off an entire cohort of the population just to make your point. Covid is far more deadly than the flu, some estimates about 10 times more deadly. If flu was as deadly as you've quoted the annual death toll would be horrendous.
COVID-19 vs. the Flu | Johns Hopkins Medicine
Is Covid more deadly and contagious than seasonal flu? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters | The Guardian
You dont read into studies do you? There was ons a few months ago about 1000 people, 500 infected with covid 500 infected with the flu, 2 people Died both of whome were unvaccinated against the flu, all 500 covid infecties survived (all 500 were vaccinated).
shmmeee
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Its. Not. Just. About. CFR.
The problem with corona is it’s infectiousness. It’s the number of people that get it, not just what happens when they get it.
We’ve been banging on about this for almost two years now how are people still not getting it?
Your risk of dying is a function of your chance of catching a disease and the chance of dying *once you’ve caught it*. X x Y
A disease that is ten times easier to catch is ten times deadlier than a less transmissible disease with the same death rate.
fernandopartridge
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a small study vs actual real world data, i know which one i'd go with
Brighton Sky Blue
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We don’t have anything close to 100% vaccinated. Try again
And whos fault is that? Not mine or my familys, we're all vaccinated so why should we be locked down over snd over and over?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Nobody’s saying we should be?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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The unvaccinated. Which is I believe is who it was being suggested the restrictions should be aimed at.
baldy
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I'm convinced that most people on here will hate it when/if restrictions end & there won't be any lockdowns - to insult other posters just because they're of the opinion that,say,lockdowns don't work is ridiculous - we don't all have to think the same way in case some of you hadn't noticed
baldy
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There were armed police in the Liverpool Royal (for obvious reasons)......
....I was half tempted to ask if they'd mind enforcing the face mask policy
Pathetic
jimmyhillsfanclub
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someones had a sense of humour bypass...... is that why you're bald?....years of things whizzing over your head?