Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (238 Viewers)

CCFCSteve · Nov 19, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
You've got to say now that we're starting to see other European countries go into lockdown (Austria won't be the last) that the UK has got it right and learned from mistakes

We used the summer knowing any virus mortality rate is at its lowest to get the over 40s and vunerable double jabbed, most over 20s single jabbed and breed heard immunity

I will be surprised if we go into lockdown ever again. We may see face coverings still over the winter but I'd take that any day than what we had last year

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I hope and think (maybe ) you’re right. There is no doubt the decision was made to allow higher transmission over the summer to try to avoid a massive winter peak when the nhs will naturally be more stretched. A lot of the wider world were saying it was a crazy but I always felt it seemed logical...although I’m obviously not a virologist !

The key to the success of the decision will be the boosters being delivered quickly enough to best protect those at high risk who have waning immunity. Booster figures look relatively low at 25% but that’s over 12s so hopefully a larger proportion of those of higher risk have been jabbed again

It’s all about hospitalisations and deaths now, not case numbers. Inpatients will go up to some extent with case numbers but the vaccine has been doing it’s job so far as there have been approx 6-7k inpatients (in England) consistently for the past few weeks compared to 32k at peak.

Lockdowns will only suppress the transmission of the virus for a period so should only really be brought in if you are delaying transmission for a reason ie get more vaccines/boosters delivered or health service is at risk of being overwhelmed...otherwise it’s kind of just delaying the inevitable ie the spread. Hopefully we can avoid !

Ps I would mandate masks on public transport (especially the tube) and be suggesting any high risk WFH if transmission remains high over winter though

Rambling over

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 19, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
You overdrawn? And I’m sure that’s correct. Kids tend to have parents and grandparents thoigh

And teachers!

clint van damme · Nov 19, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
I think your definition of a "snowflake" is diffrent to the rest of the world.

I think your definition of the rest of the world is different from the rest of the world.

Sick Boy · Nov 19, 2021

SBT said:
Loads of European countries already have mandatory vaccines for all kinds of diseases. It'll probably be the same with COVID in a few years, if not months. Given how safe and effective this vaccine appears to be, I've no problem with that.

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Weirdly this has never been an issue before for some posters.

Sick Boy · Nov 19, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
I hope and think (maybe ) you’re right. There is no doubt the decision was made to allow higher transmission over the summer to try to avoid a massive winter peak when the nhs will naturally be more stretched. A lot of the wider world were saying it was a crazy but I always felt it seemed logical...although I’m obviously not a virologist !

The key to the success of the decision will be the boosters being delivered quickly enough to best protect those at high risk who have waning immunity. Booster figures look relatively low at 25% but that’s over 12s so hopefully a larger proportion of those of higher risk have been jabbed again

It’s all about hospitalisations and deaths now, not case numbers. Inpatients will go up to some extent with case numbers but the vaccine has been doing it’s job so far as there have been approx 6-7k inpatients (in England) consistently for the past few weeks compared to 32k at peak.

Lockdowns will only suppress the transmission of the virus for a period so should only really be brought in if you are delaying transmission for a reason ie get more vaccines/boosters delivered or health service is at risk of being overwhelmed...otherwise it’s kind of just delaying the inevitable ie the spread. Hopefully we can avoid !

Ps I would mandate masks on public transport (especially the tube) and be suggesting any high risk WFH if transmission remains high over winter though

Rambling over

Last month I was on busy trains and tubes in the England and I’d say at best 5% were wearing masks on the trains and 10% on the tube. It’s madness that in carriages with zero ventilation people don’t bother.

baldy · Nov 20, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Last month I was on busy trains and tubes in the England and I’d say at best 5% were wearing masks on the trains and 10% on the tube. It’s madness that in carriages with zero ventilation people don’t bother.

Why worry about everybody else & what they do or don’t do?

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
Why worry about everybody else & what they do or don’t do?

Because they are potentially spreading an infectious disease that is killing other people. It's not difficult to understand. Do keep up.

Skybluefaz · Nov 20, 2021

Vaccines work.

baldy · Nov 20, 2021

Deleted member 9744 said:
Because they are potentially spreading an infectious disease that is killing other people. It's not difficult to understand. Do keep up.

You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

Sick Boy · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

Well, there are seatbelts to provide protection...

clint van damme · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

No, but as a society we legislate for idiotic driving with a raft of laws and requirements to protect people and minimise danger.

skybluetony176 · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

That’s why we have things such as speed limits, seatbelt laws, MOT laws, a competency to drive test, insurance laws, road tax, build standards in cars in case of a crash etc etc.

You can’t just buy a car, cover it in objects designed to hurt and kill and drive around with no rules. This isn’t death race 2000.

wingy · Nov 20, 2021

Jabbed Moderna.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

tbf, I use my lights, indicators, keep to speed limits, wear seat belts... don't pull out in front of other cars or drive into cyclists, however much I might want to. I take various steps to protect myself, my family, and other people, yes.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 20, 2021

wingy said:
Jabbed Moderna.

Does that make you a hipster, going different?

TomRad85 · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

I do, I'm a horrendous driver and London is full of lunatic drivers.

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skybluetony176 · Nov 20, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Does that make you a hipster, going different?

I thought it was a Star Wars character.

LastGarrison · Nov 20, 2021

wingy said:
Jabbed Moderna.

Mate of mine works at the vaccination centre at Stonleigh and as of next week, I think he said, all boosters given there will be Moderna and not Pfizer.

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

Enough to wear a seatbelt

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 20, 2021

Deleted member 9744 said:
Enough to wear a seatbelt

And comply with the law

wingy · Nov 20, 2021

LastGarrison said:
Mate of mine works at the vaccination centre at Stonleigh and as of next week, I think he said, all boosters given there will be Moderna and not Pfizer.

Didn't realise that one was still functioning.

chiefdave · Nov 20, 2021

Had a reminder today that this isn't over. Mate of mine has ended up in hospital, thankfully looks like he Is on the mend after a couple of scary days.

He's in his 50s, fit & healthy, double vaxxed and had covid once already back before vaccines were available. Looks like he picked it up at work and thankfully looks a combination of his employer and insurance will cover it as he's working in the US at the moment and already has a 10 days quarantine in NY to pay for after testing positive and the call out fee alone for the doctor was $5K.

Macca · Nov 20, 2021

The booster jab truly sucked balls but if it keeps me out of mischief for the winter happy days

Johnnythespider · Nov 20, 2021

baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?

Was that you that flashed through a red at the junction of binley road and Allard way yesterday just missing me and a car turning right.

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 20, 2021

Yep wife for me feeling rough too

chiefdave said:
Had a reminder today that this isn't over. Mate of mine has ended up in hospital, thankfully looks like he Is on the mend after a couple of scary days.

He's in his 50s, fit & healthy, double vaxxed and had covid once already back before vaccines were available. Looks like he picked it up at work and thankfully looks a combination of his employer and insurance will cover it as he's working in the US at the moment and already has a 10 days quarantine in NY to pay for after testing positive and the call out fee alone for the doctor was $5K.

Johnnythespider · Nov 20, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep wife for me feeling rough too

Loads of it about, my wife has a virus but the lft's have been negative so far, just sent a pcr back in the post, woman 2 doors down has covid and friend of the family lost his wife to it last week.

wingy · Nov 21, 2021

I'm reading mask wearing reduces spread of new case's by 53% .

Sick Boy · Nov 21, 2021

wingy said:
I'm reading mask wearing reduces spread of new case's by 53% .

That can't be right, the experts on here said they don't do anything.

fernandopartridge · Nov 21, 2021

wingy said:
I'm reading mask wearing reduces spread of new case's by 53% .

In what context? It sounds like nonsense to me

wingy · Nov 21, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
In what context? It sounds like nonsense to me

Express article.
Based on several studies.

Grendel · Nov 21, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
In what context? It sounds like nonsense to me

There is an article in the press but it must be nonsense

Sick Boy · Nov 21, 2021

Mask-wearing linked to 53% cut in Covid incidence, global study finds

Researchers said results highlight the need to continue with face coverings, social distancing and handwashing alongside vaccine programmes

www.theguardian.com

Grendel · Nov 21, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Mask-wearing linked to 53% cut in Covid incidence, global study finds

Researchers said results highlight the need to continue with face coverings, social distancing and handwashing alongside vaccine programmes

www.theguardian.com

It seems incomprehensible that a mask is as effective as stopping transmission as a vaccine.

Surely you’d see say an enormous gap with England and Scotland

Sick Boy · Nov 21, 2021

Grendel said:
It seems incomprehensible that a mask is as effective as stopping transmission as a vaccine.

Surely you’d see say an enormous gap with England and Scotland

I don't think it actually says that though?

Grendel · Nov 21, 2021

It says a 53% reduction in the incidence of COVID

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