It’s almost as if the pending enquiry into the pandemic response by the government is going to be damning and over-reacting to this strain is going to be their get out clause.Says it all reallyView attachment 22981
Icu is no where near close to being full btw =), but you're right its mostly unvaxed in there.It’s almost as if the pending enquiry into the pandemic response by the government is going to be damning and over-reacting to this strain is going to be their get out clause.
The other possibility is that the ICU’s are starting to overflow with the unvaccinated so the government is doing this to stop the unvaccinated catching it and putting further strain on the NHS. Selfish selfish anti-vaxxers.
She's a fucking GP
She's a fucking GP
Yeah...stupid fucking professor, time served practising doctor and specialist in virology and respiratory virus....
What the fuck does she know?
Honestly don't think I've read anyone say it will disappear if everyone is vaccinated. Has something been published to that effect?so people then realise that it is still going to be here whether everyone is vaccinated or not
The vaccine is actually because it is recognised that it isn't going away.I actually wish everyone would get vaxxed just so people then realise that it is still going to be here whether everyone is vaccinated or not. Might move the process on a few months. Just like the flu doing its rounds every year, Covid is going to be the same. We need to accept and learn to live with that. If it is a yearly booster or whatever, this current state of limbo land is only going to repeat for another two years at the current rate.
@Philosorapter
And yet in the UK admissions continue to decline as do deaths. RSA has a 25% vaccination rate or something, so it’s not helpful to compare their hospital admissions and suggest the same thing could happen here and compare it to our previous waves.
Seems like in South Africa and other countries people don't see the fuss with this new variant.
Over here, people are trying to hype it up as much as they can though.
Pricks.
This time last year we didn't have such a high proportion vaccinated though.To be serious for a moment.
There are early indicators now that the new strain is doubling every three days.
I have a vague memory that this was the level in which we were all sent into level 4 lockdown last year when the Delta variant hit.
I believe the theory behind the lockdown was that the NHS would be quickly overwhelmed if there was no action taken when we were at Level 3.
The Government gave next to no warning about the lockdown plan and gave the impression of business as usual until the last possible moment.
There is also talk that the new strain will become dominant in the UK in weeks, rather than months.
I would be prepared for an announcement soon if things continue to extrapolate as they are at the moment.
I am sure there are more people on the ball than myself on the thread who are more clued in on where this is heading.
There has been 250 cases of the new variant in the UK.
I wouldnt expect the new variant to make a mark on the UK admissions yet.
Potential growth though in transmission over the next few weeks should have a knock on affect.
Yeah it's a sit tight and wait atm. Hopefully it is indeed a bit weaker, and hopefully vaccines make it weaker still!No, they have sampled 250 cases, there are likely orders of magnitude more already. Agree in general mind that you won't necessarily see the impact on hospitalisations yet.
No, they have sampled 250 cases, there are likely orders of magnitude more already. Agree in general mind that you won't necessarily see the impact on hospitalisations yet.
Agreed Fernando. It appears the variant is more transmissible but what we still don’t know is whether it’s more severe or not (initial view was not, but early days) and secondly, whether vaccines/boosters keep people who catch it, out of hospital... hopefully so !
Ps just seen NW beat me to it with similar points !
The problem is always we can’t tell if it’s a concern until it becomes one, by which point it’s in general circulation.
This guy is a moron, there are dr's from south africa statint most these cases are not even there for covid and have been picked up by routine testing.Just checked death chart guy out.
This guy is a moron, there are dr's from south africa statint most these cases are not even there for covid and have been picked up by routine testing.
Not seeing much to suggest this new variant is particularly alarming just yet, but I guess a bit more data needs to come out first.
Maybe but tbf it was 4 or 5 weeks between the first COVID case in Feb 2020 and the first deathExactly where I’m at with it. Obviously as it was listed a VoC by the WHO we need more data to be collected, but early signs are that we won’t be looking at widespread disruption as we have previously throughout the pandemic.
Maybe but tbf it was 4 or 5 weeks between the first COVID case in Feb 2020 and the first death
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