Johnnythespider
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I'm not arguing avarages, the point was it only affects the old, obese, or ill and i know it doesn't, it also ignores the many who don't die but are left struggling for months afterwards.
I'm not arguing avarages, the point was it only affects the old, obese, or ill and i know it doesn't, it also ignores the many who don't die but are left struggling for months afterwards.It is actually - and has been since the very start…..average age of death still remains at 80
I’d love to see you tell my mate that who’s previously healthy athletic 26 year old son has had life changing and almost certainly life shortening effects from Covid. I’m a nice guy, I’ll call you an ambulance.That's pritty much it, I had Covid last week, and didn't have any symptoms. It's nothing unless you're old, ill or fat as fuck.
And here we are...Positivity rates were highest in young children, but hospital admissions and deaths were highest among older people
Estimated percentage of the population testing positive for COVID-19 in the week ending 27 November 2021, hospital admission rates in the week ending 28 November 2021, and deaths registered in the week ending 26 November 2021, by age, England
Conclusions:
Obese patients are more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19, and are at higher risk of in-hospital death or mechanical ventilation, in particular, if young (age ≤50 years). Obese patients are also at higher risk for venous thromboembolism and dialysis. These observations support clear public health messaging and rigorous adherence to COVID-19 prevention strategies in all obese individuals regardless of age.
Association of Body Mass Index and Age With Morbidity and Mortality in Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19
Background: Obesity may contribute to adverse outcomes in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). However, studies of large, broadly generalizable patient populations are lacking, and the effect of bodywww.ahajournals.org
What You Need To Know
- People of any age with the conditions listed below are more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19.
- COVID-19 vaccines (initial doses and boosters) and preventive measures for COVID-19 are important, especially if you are older or have multiple or severe health conditions including those on this list.
People with Certain Medical Conditions
What you can do if you are at higher risk of severe illness from COVID-19.www.cdc.gov
What a load of bullshit. Because of a new variant that hasn't actually killed anybody and because the prime minister has been caught out again.
c**t
Elite athletes are of course renowned for being 'old, ill or fat as fuck'.Yes it really is though
A) I wasn’t threatening you.Are we allowing threats now @Nick
A) I wasn’t threatening you.
B) I offered to do you a favour if you were ever stupid enough to share your idiotic opinion based on bullshit to someone I know who’s having to actually deal with the reality of Covid.
You’re welcome.
A) I wasn’t threatening you.
B) I offered to do you a favour if you were ever stupid enough to share your idiotic opinion based on bullshit to someone I know who’s having to actually deal with the reality of Covid.
You’re welcome.
You should lead with that. I bet you don’t even finish the first sentence before he’s knocked you out. Again. I’ll call the ambulance for you. You’re welcome.It's not an opinion, it's fact, supported by leading scientists world wide, also backed up by the Office of National Statistics, American Heart Association and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. I even included links to the articles I got my fact based opinion from for you to peruse. Futhermore, I even clarified in a further post how not every death would be one of those things "Can't speak for every last covid death, but I would assume, no, but the stats back up what I say.".
All I've gotten back so far is feelings and threats, now, I hate to break it to you, but we're all living with 'the reality of Covid', to varying degrees, yes, but we're all living with it.
There will be an equal measure of scientists arguing the opposite with evidence. That’s what science does, and that’s how statisticians manipulate figures.It's not an opinion, it's fact, supported by leading scientists world wide, also backed up by the Office of National Statistics, American Heart Association and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. I even included links to the articles I got my fact based opinion from for you to peruse. Futhermore, I even clarified in a further post how not every death would be one of those things "Can't speak for every last covid death, but I would assume, no, but the stats back up what I say.".
All I've gotten back so far is feelings and threats, now, I hate to break it to you, but we're all living with 'the reality of Covid', to varying degrees, yes, but we're all living with it.
You should lead with that. I bet you don’t even finish the first sentence before he’s knocked you out. Again. I’ll call the ambulance for you. You’re welcome.
It isn't fact at all, I've posted the ICNARC report on here a few times before that comprehensively breaks down the real world data, from doctors not scientists. It is true to say morbidly obese people are at greater risk of admission to ICU but not exclusively.It's not an opinion, it's fact, supported by leading scientists world wide, also backed up by the Office of National Statistics, American Heart Association and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. I even included links to the articles I got my fact based opinion from for you to peruse. Futhermore, I even clarified in a further post how not every death would be one of those things "Can't speak for every last covid death, but I would assume, no, but the stats back up what I say.".
All I've gotten back so far is feelings and threats, now, I hate to break it to you, but we're all living with 'the reality of Covid', to varying degrees, yes, but we're all living with it.
It is actually - and has been since the very start…..average age of death still remains at 80
My mate isn’t hard. I just know that an arsehole like you would turn him to violence with your bullshit. Given he’s trying to come to terms with something no parent should face ie the very real possibility that he may have to bury his child to something you say only kills people who are non of the things he is.I bet you get a hard on when hes telling his stories down the pub. Imagine getting to your age, and still giving it the my mates harder then you talk. embarrassing.
Yep, pregnant women are extremely vulnerableMy GF has an ongoing midwifery patient whose 24, normal weight and in coma - there’s so much nonsense bandied about on here by covid deniers.
It isn't fact at all, I've posted the ICNARC report on here a few times before that comprehensively breaks down the real world data, from doctors not scientists. It is true to say morbidly obese people are at greater risk of admission to ICU but not exclusively.
Once in ICU morbidly obese have a better survival rate strangely.
On your second point though this is just reality, we're in a different place to February 2020. You've got an almost endemic virus now which like it or not is here to stay.I hate this argument that its not a problem because it's only a risk to elderly people or those with conditions.
I also hate the term living with the virus. What it means is accepting that some people will die from it.
I hate this argument that its not a problem because it's only a risk to elderly people or those with conditions.
I also hate the term living with the virus. What it means is accepting that some people will die from it.
It depends what people mean by living with it, though. Of course there reaches a stage where, ultimately, Covid loses its impact as a name, people can joke about others getting man-Covid, and it generally becomes something you pop to Boots to sort, in the main. You're also right, of course, that things are a damned site better now than then!On your second point though this is just reality, we're in a different place to February 2020. You've got an almost endemic virus now which like it or not is here to stay.
How does it prove your point? Your claim was 'It's nothing unless you're old, ill or fat as fuck'. Those statistics show it did a lot more than nothing to a lot of people who don't fall into those categories.Thank you, that proves my point, BMI over 25 is overweight, over 30 is obese (yes, there will be the odd bodybuilder/rugby player, but the majority will be fat idle people). More people died in the overweight/obese category then people with a healthy weight were even in hospital (1656:7059). 2074 deaths overweight/obese, the fact that sub 20 BMI are omitted from that is throwing doubt over the whole study, for all we know, the larger % is down to anorexic people.
So what? Doesn't mean their lives are less important than yours.Thank you, that proves my point, BMI over 25 is overweight, over 30 is obese (yes, there will be the odd bodybuilder/rugby player, but the majority will be fat idle people). More people died in the overweight/obese category then people with a healthy weight were even in hospital (1656:7059). 2074 deaths overweight/obese, the fact that sub 20 BMI are omitted from that is throwing doubt over the whole study, for all we know, the larger % is down to anorexic people.
I appreciate that but it is an offensive term to the families of people who don't get to learn to live with it.On your second point though this is just reality, we're in a different place to February 2020. You've got an almost endemic virus now which like it or not is here to stay.
How does it prove your point? Your claim was 'It's nothing unless you're old, ill or fat as fuck'. Those statistics show it did a lot more than nothing to a lot of people who don't fall into those categories.
The report shows 88% of people admitted were 'able to live without assistance in daily life', ie: they led perfectly normal lives. You can't just declare them all dispensable. 63% of UK adults have a BMI over 25, do we just write them all off?
I'm currently getting tests for a potential lung condition, if it turns out I have it that would put me in the at risk category. Does that mean I should be happy to die so you're not inconvenienced by having to show a QR code every now & again or wear a mask in the supermarket?
So what? Doesn't mean their lives are less important than yours.
Getting old is a lifestyle choice? Having a genetic condition?Never said they were, but why should I be penalised for other peoples poor lifestyle choices.
My mate isn’t hard. I just know that an arsehole like you would turn him to violence with your bullshit. Given he’s trying to come to terms with something no parent should face ie the very real possibility that he may have to bury his child to something you say only kills people who are non of the things he is.
Getting old is a lifestyle choice? Having a genetic condition?
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