Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (291 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

Just lucky that the cure made before and the other 2 do nothing.

It's not the cure - it shows promising results if boosted, but that's still down on the results pre-Omicron, where booster was looking at 90% + protection against symptomatic Covid. The 75% they're looking at now is also the initial result after booster, and will wear down too, although that 75% is about zero symptoms and not keeping you out of hospital, the results of which which will be susbstantially higher.

 

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[Nick]

It's not the cure - it shows promising results if boosted, but that's still down on the results pre-Omicron, where booster was looking at 90% + protection against symptomatic Covid. The 75% they're looking at now is also the initial result after booster, and will wear down too, although that 75% is about zero symptoms and not keeping you out of hospital, the results of which which will be susbstantially higher.

Looking forward to the next strain that has no symptoms but requires a booster and everybody is tested for it daily.

Look at the spin in the dod article about hospitalisations.

What parties that Boris had?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Looking forward to the next strain that has no symptoms but requires a booster and everybody is tested for it daily.

Look at the spin in the dod article about hospitalisations.

You really are chatting some shit. The booster programme was happening anyway. As for the current measures to slow spread, I refer back again to the very beginning of this, where a fair number of us said it'd blow over, and it turned into a shitshow. Just what is wrong with some VERY SMALL measures to slow spread as they gather data? Better to get the data and find it's harmless than to not bother and find it's anything bt.

 

[Nick]

You really are chatting some shit.

How is it chatting shit?

Read the headline about so many people hospitalised with the new variant and then the little line hidden away.

 

[Nick]

You really are chatting some shit. The booster programme was happening anyway. As for the current measures to slow spread, I refer back again to the very beginning of this, where a fair number of us said it'd blow over, and it turned into a shitshow. Just what is wrong with some VERY SMALL measures to slow spread as they gather data? Better to get the data and find it's harmless than to not bother and find it's anything bt.

Yeah it was happening.. now there's shit loads of scare mongering to get it ramped up though.

Yeah read back months ago, I said this would never end.

How often do we start bringing in measures because there might be a chance of something? This won't be the end. It will be 2026 and everybody is locked down because people going into hospital have been tested positive for something they had absolutely clue had.

 

[hill83]

Just lucky that the cure made before and the other 2 do nothing.

Then as stuff comes out about the government everybody needs to get it.

People will rush to get it with no clue if this strain is even bad.

5G

 

[Nick]

5G

I'll be alright I can only get 4g here.

 

[baldy]

My mate and his wife have omicron , neither have any symptoms

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

 

[Skybluefaz]

I'm still here you prick!
Just quietly waiting for the obvious auto immune time bomb to explode!
It might take a couple of years, but bumping this thread then will be very interesting.
You gloat all you want now, but I'll be waiting quietly to say I told you so!

I'm no expert in the field of virology like yourself, so what do you mean by 'obvious auto immune time bomb'?

 

[Si80]

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

Some people have to lat flow to go to work. I’d guess that would throw up the CV+ and then PCR to confirm.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It’s the non symptoms that are the problem. If you’ve got flu you are in bed fucked. But you can be absolutely fine with this and pass it on to someone’s nan and they are dead in 2 weeks.

This has largely been my argument against vaccine only passports. As the vaccine lowers symptoms you can become a super spreader quite easily.

As I said earlier about the age thing, it's more relevant than jabbed versus non-jabbed. Keep old and fat people out of nightclubs and they'll be almost no hospitalisations or deaths.

(For anyone looking to get offended, the last sentence is a joke).

 

[fatso]

I'm no expert in the field of virology like yourself, so what do you mean by 'obvious auto immune time bomb'?

Wait and see, I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.
It's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and results reported.
So rather than getting in a slagging match with people on here who think it's totally safe and will no doubt queue up for every booster going for as long as the government can afford to subsidise the program, I've decided to keep my own council until the issues break publicly.

 

[Marty]

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

I had to when I was a close contact with someone, had a lateral flow at work return negative then sent to do a PCR about 10 minutes later which returned positive. Makes me question the success rate of lateral flow tests.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm still here you prick!
Just quietly waiting for the obvious auto immune time bomb to explode!
It might take a couple of years, but bumping this thread then will be very interesting.
You gloat all you want now, but I'll be waiting quietly to say I told you so!

This is a troll account right?

 

[Nick]

Has anybody died from this variant in other countries or South Africa yet?

 

[hill83]

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

I do before I go to my 92 year old grandads house. That ok?

 

[Skybluefaz]

Wait and see, I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.
It's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and results reported.
So rather than getting in a slagging match with people on here who think it's totally safe and will no doubt queue up for every booster going for as long as the government can afford to subsidise the program, I've decided to keep my own council until the issues break publicly.

What data is being used in the report to suggest there will be an issue if it's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and reported? I'm confused. This sounds like something off a dodgy Facebook post.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Has anybody died from this variant in other countries or South Africa yet?

It isn't all about deaths though right?

 

[Nick]

It isn't all about deaths though right?

What is it about then? "Hospitalisations" which can just be somebody going in with a broken leg who tests positive for it.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Wait and see, I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.
It's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and results reported.
So rather than getting in a slagging match with people on here who think it's totally safe and will no doubt queue up for every booster going for as long as the government can afford to subsidise the program, I've decided to keep my own council until the issues break publicly.

You should have stopped after expert.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What is it about then? "Hospitalisations" which can just be somebody going in with a broken leg who tests positive for it.

Yeah but given that all variants have that same possibility…

 

[fatso]

What data is being used in the report to suggest there will be an issue if it's going to take a long time for any issues to be collated and reported? I'm confused. This sounds like something off a dodgy Facebook post.

Faz the information is already out there, you just need to search for it, you are certainly not going to be presented with it on a plate via main stream media.
Lots of data that conflicts with the official government story gets deleted very quickly, but there's more and more stuff coming on line every day. The thing is, if it was all from no marks, it wouldn't carry any weight. But there are no end of eminent experts expressing concerns.

 

[fatso]

You should have stopped after expert.

Thanks for the well thought out and informative response, this forum is so lucky to have you.

 

[Nick]

Yeah but given that all variants have that same possibility…

So if there have been no deaths from it and it's reported as mild if anything. Why is there being mass panic created?

Look back to a link d'od posted to see the spin.

Yet the South African woman who has been dealing with the variant for a few weeks also says it's very mild.

So what statistic should we be looking for?

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

Probably because they are intending to see vulnerable relatives who they don't want to kill

 

[fatso]

So if there have been no deaths from it and it's reported as mild if anything. Why is there being mass panic created?

Look back to a link d'od posted to see the spin.

Yet the South African woman who has been dealing with the variant for a few weeks also says it's very mild.

So what statistic should we be looking for?

The only relevant statistic, is how many doses of booster vaccine did Bojo pre-order?
And how much money has it cost the tax payer? And how much profit has the manufacturer made?

 

[David O'Day]

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

Because I have an 70+ year old mum i'd like not to die mate, that ok with you?

Also lol at you saying no one was in hospital with this new variant and you being quickly made to look the utter fool you are.

 

[Kieranp96]

Why would anybody get tested if they had no symptoms?

Work? Travel? Covid pass? Close contact? Free test so curious?

 

[Nick]

Because I have an 70+ year old mum i'd like not to die mate, that ok with you?

Also lol at you saying no one was in hospital with this new variant and you being quickly made to look the utter fool you are.

Again, while he is over the top one way. You are the other end.

Read past the headline in your link.

 

[baldy]

I do before I go to my 92 year old grandads house. That ok?

It was a genuine question - calm down

 

[ajsccfc]

Faz the information is already out there, you just need to search for it, you are certainly not going to be presented with it on a plate via main stream media.

Again, can't you just link to where you've found it?

 

[baldy]

What is it about then? "Hospitalisations" which can just be somebody going in with a broken leg who tests positive for it.

Bet they can’t wait for someone who dies falling off a ladder & breaking their neck so that they can put that he died of corona on the way down like they did with that one bloke

 

[baldy]

Because I have an 70+ year old mum i'd like not to die mate, that ok with you?

Also lol at you saying no one was in hospital with this new variant and you being quickly made to look the utter fool you are.

Pfffft I don’t feel foolish at all - there wasn’t actually anyone in hospital with it before it came out only today that there was
I certainly don’t feel stupid or foolish just because some of you shriek at me in response like panic stricken old women

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So if there have been no deaths from it and it's reported as mild if anything. Why is there being mass panic created?

Look back to a link d'od posted to see the spin.

Yet the South African woman who has been dealing with the variant for a few weeks also says it's very mild.

So what statistic should we be looking for?

Well when enough data gets out, compare the % getting secondary infections, hospitalised or killed by it compared to Delta. Something that is half as ‘bad’ but much more transmissible can still cause plenty of hospitalisations from a low % of a very high number of cases. If enough people are given boosters, that latter point becomes redundant. The anti vax crowd is probably the biggest problem on this anyway.

Though we just don’t have the data yet.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Faz the information is already out there, you just need to search for it, you are certainly not going to be presented with it on a plate via main stream media.
Lots of data that conflicts with the official government story gets deleted very quickly, but there's more and more stuff coming on line every day. The thing is, if it was all from no marks, it wouldn't carry any weight. But there are no end of eminent experts expressing concerns.

This is just copy paste nonsense isn’t it. Every time you’re debunked you move onto something else-just citing people with titles because you don’t know what you’re on about isn’t the basis of an argument.

Tell us all what the end goal of the conspiracy is.