robbiekeane
Well-Known Member
Because they aren’t complying with the solution?
Because they aren’t complying with the solution?Why now is it such an issue almost 2 years on ?
Literally didn’t even answer the questionWhy are people so hellbent on people losing their jobs ? The very people you all clapped last year ? Weird as fuck because it hasn't bothered people from the day the vaccine released to now ? And they will still be working until March? What measures do they take now that suddenly won't be good enough in March?
Do you think the NHS can afford to sack people?Health workers have always been required to vaccinate against illnesses that can harm their patients. Where were you before arguing against that? What’s so special about the Covid vaccine?
They’ve had a year to get a jab, numbers aren’t high enough so now a hard deadline is in with time to get fully vaxxed. Would you rather they just sacked people on the spot?
You’re making out like the gestapo are out holding down people while crazed Dr Mengele jabs experimental drugs in them. All that’s happening is a condition of employment is being brought in with a decent grace period to comply or find a new career.
Baldy and Ewan Boyle from the Express. A match made in utter bullshit chatting heaven.
I think it's appalling , that's what I think
Or maybe Boris wants that to happen , so he can then say the NHS isnt for for purposecall me crazy
Covid vaccine: People told to travel 100 miles to register overseas jab
People vaccinated abroad must register their jab in person - but only 16 sites are available to do so.www.bbc.co.uk
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hahaha you couldn’t make it up. This place really is a fucking joke
When i worked at the hospital in 2016 i was made to take vaccines i think i had 5 over all not sire what they were for but i was it department.
Yea , 73000 out of a job certainly won't either ..Its impractical. This isn't going to help the NHS.
Yea , 73000 out of a job certainly won't either ..
Do you think the NHS can afford to sack people?
If they’re unsuitable for the job, yes.
Do you think someone who isn't jabbed is unsuitable for the job?
Not sure it's a basic hygiene measure, is it?Yes. If you won’t take basic hygiene measures you shouldn’t be working in healthcare.
Yes. If you won’t take basic hygiene measures you shouldn’t be working in healthcare.
So you'd rather an ICU unit hada10 to 1 patient to vaccinated nurse ratio than a 2 to 1 with a mix of vacinnated and unvaccinated nurses?
I know someone who runs a complex care facility which already has perennial staffing issues, this will kill them (literally), it doesn't make sense.
AndI say this as someone who wishes every adult would just go and get their jabs and boosters and be done with it
They were jabs in my arm, what were they for? I can't remember for the lofe of me, maybe TB but i also had them as a kid soThey weren't vaccines mate...
That’s amazing it used to be 6000 a yearNick are you actually Desmond Swayne?
"It'd be outrageous if the executive were to attempt to prevent any Member of Parliament attending this House to represent our constituents without first undergoing a medical procedure."
Id rather people got vaccinated but no I don’t think keeping unsuitable staff on who are in breach on contract is how you solve a staffing issue.
I’m not sure where you’re getting your numbers wrong but it’s nothing like that many
My ratio numbers? They were just examples.
But I do know that at the height of the Pandemic the ratio was way above what it should be so removing staff will only make it worse if ICU becomes as full again.
You’re talking maybe 5% of staff at worst. The NHS is understaffed as it always has been. That’s not the fault of this policy. That’s because the pay is garbage and they don’t have enough funds. More people who work with my missus have been leaving to work in retail or other industries than have refused the jab.
Its hard to know what to think about the variant. Still early days and more data needed but some reports seem to suggest nothing to worry about while others indicate the opposite. This one from Reuters for example.
OHANNESBURG, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Pfizer-BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine has been less effective in South Africa at keeping people infected with the virus out of hospital since the Omicron variant emerged last month, a real-world study published on Tuesday showed.
Between Nov. 15 and Dec. 7, people who had received two doses of the shot had a 70% chance of avoiding hospitalisation, down from 93% during the previous wave of Delta infections, the study showed.
When it came to avoiding infection altogether, the study by South Africa's largest private health insurance administrator, Discovery Health, showed that protection against catching COVID-19 had slumped to 33% from 80% previously.
The findings from the real-world analysis are some of the first about the protection vaccines offer against Omicron outside of laboratory studies, which have so far shown a reduced ability to neutralise the virus.
Slippery slope is an argument put forward when a person is not able to argue in full the merits of the proposal at hand. It is a dangerous precedent and has to be based on evidence which as you say has not been made.I have work early , I think I've already several times over made my feelings known on this , I actually agree with Jeremy corbynthis is probably going to be one of those things where in 20 years time , people look back , like they did when he was in charge of the opposition and say " he was right and nobody listened "
Dangerous precedent, slippery slope , will never be for it
Good news if that’s a reputable tweeter
It's almost as if the plan is working isn't it?I've started looking into going private.
Dont have a pot to piss in most months with expendable income but id rather be destitute and know my children, partner and myself could get a lump checked out or blood tests done within a fortnight instead of being pushed down the list because of a variant
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