Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (17 Viewers)

[Nick]

It says sick - not isolating. It could be a combination of the two to be fair.

I just took it as 400 with covid. If it's only 400 showing symptoms with it then how many are isolating with none?

The first instinct is to blame unvaccinated people for that. What about people not giving enough for more paramedics? What about people setting the isolation rules? Etc etc.

No, it's all because of unvaccinated people. Ideal for Boris.

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

 

[CCFCSteve]

Yes most people may have mild symptoms but the larger spread could lead to more in hospital.

To use someone else's figures yet again:

Variant a infects 10 people and 1 of those people ends up in hospital

Variant b infects 50 people and 2 end up in hospital

Variant a is a more severe variant of the virus but variant b due to the transmission rate actually leads to more people ending up in hospital.

This has been explained countless times on here as well

100% agree but they still have no idea of real life impact of natural immunity, vaccines and boosters on severe illness/hospitalisation.

 

[baldy]

Would that stop the 400 paramedics isolating though? Would assume the majority of those are vaccinated.

It's been turned into a blame each other game rather than blame the people who's actual job is to protect the NHS.

There should be some sort of common sense around the isolation rules. If 400 paramedics have caught covid then that's a bit worrying too.

Fuck me - how much more protection does the NHS need? It’s their job to protect us

 

[chiefdave]

Stop getting tested, simple

I came down with cold earlier in the week and took a LFT just in case which came back negative. The cynic in me says I would've tested positive if I went for an official PCR test

Out of interest given that you clearly think you have covid are you still mixing with other people or have you isolated yourself?

 

[Nick]

Out of interest given that you clearly think you have covid are you still mixing with other people or have you isolated yourself?

The thing is, people are being told they could have covid if they have a runny nose.

Who knows? I also do lateral tests that are negative but if I get a sniffle im not going to start isolating. Why would i?

I'm achy with a bit of a cold, it's December and I'm getting old.

Psychologically, where does it end

 

[chiefdave]

The entire system is on the brink of collapse and can’t cope any longer.

There was someone from the NHS on the radio this week who said that people keep talking about the NHS collapsing like there will be a single point at which it all falls apart. As they pointed out the reality is it is already collapsing and has been for years. Every winter there are queues of ambulances as there aren't enough beds.

 

[Nick]

The thing is, now the blame will be on the unvaccinated and not the government

 

[chiefdave]

The thing is, people are being told they could have covid if they have a runny nose.

Not suggesting everyone who has the slightest sniffle should isolate but skyblue1991 must think he has covid if he thinks he would fail a PCR.

Although that does open up a whole other argument about our attitude to dragging ourselves into the office when we're ill and passing it round everyone and if that's really the best way to behave.

 

[Nick]

Not suggesting everyone who has the slightest sniffle should isolate but skyblue1991 must think he has covid if he thinks he would fail a PCR.

Although that does open up a whole other argument about our attitude to dragging ourselves into the office when we're ill and passing it round everyone and if that's really the best way to behave.

The thing is though, people will see the list of symptoms and think they have it. Runny nose, aching, scratchy throat.

Imagine ringing a boss and saying they aren't going to work because they have a runny nose.

I'll be going to work regardless of how rough I feel and will do a lateral.

 

[clint van damme]

Gig I was due at last night got postponed last minute until Feb. 22.
Going to see my eldests 1st ever art exhibition this afternoon... really hope they don't panic and cancel that too.
Off down south next week to catch up with my unvaccinated brother and kids and then test before collecting my old mum to bring her back north for Xmas.
I'm getting boosted tomorrow and now have the attitude of cracking on as normal with everything and leave it to others if they want to join in or sit it out.
Meant to be going the pub tonight although the original 8 is already down to 3 of us...pppfft.

Got a whatsapp last night that a gig which was rescheduled for Feb next year is now next November.
Don't know if its covid related but worrying if it is. Don't need another year of this shit.

Good luck with the art exhibition, hope it goes well for your eldest.

 

[Ian1779]

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Although I didn’t think it would actually happen anyway, but not addressing one of the prime drivers of infection rates in a population that is likely to be less vaccinated (kids) makes the other restrictions a little pointless.

 

[PVA]

Talk of a two week circuit breaker after Christmas.

Obviously they don't want to be seen to be 'ruining Christmas' so they're going to wait.

I don't know if a circuit breaker is the right thing to do or not, I'll let the scientists decide that and I really hope we don't need one, but surely you either do it now or not at all. They either care about public health or they care about their optics. If it's the former they'd do it now if it's the latter then they'll wait.

 

[stupot07]

The thing is though, people will see the list of symptoms and think they have it. Runny nose, aching, scratchy throat.

Imagine ringing a boss and saying they aren't going to work because they have a runny nose.

I'll be going to work regardless of how rough I feel and will do a lateral.

Thats why you go for a pcr test. If its just a common cold it will come back negative and you go to work as normal.

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[Deleted member 5849]

Thats why you go for a pcr test. If its just a common cold it will come back negative and you go to work as normal.

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Is this a thing? I thought LFT was enough to keep going as 'normal'?

 

[Nick]

Thats why you go for a pcr test. If its just a common cold it will come back negative and you go to work as normal.

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How often? Do I isolate while I wait for the results? Do I book time off to go for one even if my lateral flows say negative?

Again there's the psychology, 10 minutes on Google and you can be made to think you have cancer. For some people there's no doubt they will think they have omicron.

 

[David O'Day]

100% agree but they still have no idea of real life impact of natural immunity, vaccines and boosters on severe illness/hospitalisation.

Which is why it is sensible to take measures now instead of crossing your fingers and waiting

 

[Ccfcisparks]

How often? Do I isolate while I wait for the results? Do I book time off to go for one even if my lateral flows say negative?

They’re open the majority of the day and you usually get your results back the next. Hardly a big effort

 

[stupot07]

Is this a thing? I thought LFT was enough to keep going as 'normal'?

Yes, lateral flows are for asymptomatic testing, if you have any symptoms you should have a pcr.

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[Nick]

They’re open the majority of the day and you usually get your results back the next. Hardly a big effort

Just 2 days wages lost or 2 half days?

How often? Every time i get one of the omicron symptoms even though the lateral flow is negative?

 

[Nick]

Yes, lateral flows are for asymptomatic testing, if you have any symptoms you should have a pcr.

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It's December and the omicron symptoms are so vague and minimal then we may as well bring in daily PCR.

 

[stupot07]

How often? Do I isolate while I wait for the results? Do I book time off to go for one even if my lateral flows say negative?

Again there's the psychology, 10 minutes on Google and you can be made to think you have cancer. For some people there's no doubt they will think they have omicron.

You should get a pcr if you are symptomatic regardless of the lateral flow result. You'd only do it once, and theoretically you should isolate until the result comes back the next day.

Its not really psychology, you get a test done, get the result and then you know you've either got it or not.

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[Nick]

You should get a pcr if you are symptomatic regardless of the lateral flow result. You'd only do it once, and theoretically you should isolate until the result comes back the next day.

Its not really psychology, you get a test done, get the result and then you know you've either got it or not.

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So while i isolate because my nose is running for the day who pays my wages?

What happens if the week after I start to ache and my throat feels funny but my PCR last week was negative? Do another?

What happens if I get a headache the next day, do another? Or just have a paracetamol and carry on?

As I said, I'll just do lateral flows and carry on.

 

[stupot07]

So while i isolate because my nose is running for the day who pays my wages?

What happens if the week after I start to ache and my throat feels funny but my PCR last week was negative? Do another?

As I said, I'll just do lateral flows and carry on.

I didn't make the rule/guidelines , I'm only saying what they are.

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[Nick]

I didn't make the rule/guidelines , I'm only saying what they are.

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I know I'm just saying how far should people take it. Even more so when the symptoms listed are so basic.

 

[PVA]

I know I'm just saying how far should people take it. Even more so when the symptoms listed are so basic.

The government website states to get a PCR test if you have a temperature, new cough or change to taste/smell. It doesn't mention runny nose etc

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The government website states to get a PCR test if you have a temperature, new cough or change to taste/smell. It doesn't mention runny nose etc

That's better! I get that a bit more!

 

[Nick]

The government website states to get a PCR test if you have a temperature, new cough or change to taste/smell. It doesn't mention runny nose etc

Not updated for the new variant then?

That's the issue, you leave things so vague and it can be left to interpretation and self diagnosis. Following the rules you can either never have a PCR or be down there every day.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Out of interest given that you clearly think you have covid are you still mixing with other people or have you isolated yourself?

I don't think I had covid, I think I had a cold and the LFT says I'm negative. What I'm saying is would a PCR test say the same thing? Plenty of cases (including a post today) where a LFT is negative but a PCR is positive

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[Kieranp96]

No chance, I'm fine and my immediate family I'm with over Xmas are fine so not going to risk any plans with a week to go!

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Lets hope it isnt covid and kills yoir grandparents, then again from. Your post you dont care anyway.

 

[Nick]

Lets hope it isnt covid and kills yoir grandparents, then again from. Your post you dont care anyway.

Fucking madness.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Got a whatsapp last night that a gig which was rescheduled for Feb next year is now next November.
Don't know if its covid related but worrying if it is. Don't need another year of this shit.

Good luck with the art exhibition, hope it goes well for your eldest.

Yeah think we spoke before about how big a miss live gigs were during the lockdowns....
....worse than no football for me personally.

The only positive I took from it was then when they were allowed again, the atmosphere and buzz were fantastic....proper old skool life-affirming in the moment gigs....

Lovely eggs and Jarvis my 2 stand outs from the gigs I've seen since/during covid....

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The thing is though, people will see the list of symptoms and think they have it. Runny nose, aching, scratchy throat.

Imagine ringing a boss and saying they aren't going to work because they have a runny nose.

I'll be going to work regardless of how rough I feel and will do a lateral.

That’s 3 ‘the thing’s in 3 posts. ‘The thing is’ the LFT catches when you are most infectious. If you’re symptomatic and therefore oozing with virus then it should always turn up positive.

 

[PVA]

I don't think I had covid, I think I had a cold and the LFT says I'm negative. What I'm saying is would a PCR test say the same thing? Plenty of cases (including a post today) where a LFT is negative but a PCR is positive

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The PCR will be positive if you have Covid.

It will be negative if you just have a cold.

I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise?

 

[Nick]

That’s 3 ‘the thing’s in 3 posts. ‘The thing is’ the LFT catches when you are most infectious. If you’re symptomatic and therefore oozing with virus then it should always turn up positive.

So I'll just keep doing them then and carrying on while they say negative. Easy