Just slyly causing more issues.That was shit wasn’t it? Where’s the solutions? Really expected something on isolation periods. Oh well
Imagine doing that to your face and then being concerned about what's in a vaccineJust a couple of normal blokes.
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No point at all as I can tellJust slyly causing more issues.
Not too sure what the point of it was.
Same as that ex nurse who keeps turning up at fruit loop demonstrations. Getting up on stage with a face full of Botox telling people not to take the vaccine because it’s poisonous. And then people take her seriously.Imagine doing that to your face and then being concerned about what's in a vaccine
Why would they purposely want to cause mayhem?It only says certain critical industries so it's pretty vague so far.
If it's a small transport company it could send them bust.
Seems like it's purposely trying to cause mayhem.
Why would they want to make even more people isolate when there's probably nothing wrong with them?Why would they purposely want to cause mayhem?
So what’s their end game with the mayhem?Why would they want to make even more people isolate when there's probably nothing wrong with them?
My daughter had it, a headache for 2 days that a paracetamol sorted. If it was term time she be would have been off for a week.
It's madness. Especially just after the "fuel shortage" when there wasn't enough drivers.
What will it actually achieve?
Why would they want to make even more people isolate when there's probably nothing wrong with them?
My daughter had it, a headache for 2 days that a paracetamol sorted. If it was term time she be would have been off for a week.
It's madness. Especially just after the "fuel shortage" when there wasn't enough drivers.
What will it actually achieve?
He's always hopeless at talking. I don't know where this idea that he is a great speaker comes from.Fucking hell old Boris can't speak properly. Stuttering line a good un.
So what’s their end game with the mayhem?
That was shit wasn’t it? Where’s the solutions? Really expected something on isolation periods. Oh well
I’m happy with the 7 days.
I started to feel rough Sunday, negative lateral flow both Sunday and Monday but positive today. With the 7 day rule I can be back out on Sunday if I test negative Friday and Saturday. That’s only a few days after my lateral flow and what will be 3 days after the pcr that I’m having tomorrow.
To be honest it all seems a bit too soon to go back into the wild.
Yeah the actual illness is mild. We are causing more issues with the isolation and testing.I don't think the 7 day isolation is the problem, it's the over testing. I know some won't agree with that but the NHS website still states only get a PCR test if you have the traditional covid symptoms or a positive LFT
The data is there to show that Omicron is mild. We have to accept now that if you're feeling well enough to work you shouldn't be isolating. Its not like the Delta variant where people were bed ridden for days and the deaths were high compared to the cases
Almost this time last year there were 1000+ deaths a day with ICU beds full to the brim. We are now seeing 100+ deaths a day and ICU beds around a third (possibly a half) of last year. That is fantastic progress
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Yeah the actual illness is mild. We are causing more issues with the isolation and testing.
At what point do we just let people get it?
Absolutely, it seems worse compared to last yearYeah the actual illness is mild. We are causing more issues with the isolation and testing.
At what point do we just let people get it?
Lots of mild illnesses aren't mild for some people.Where do you get 'the illness is mild' from?
It's simply not true for everyone.
I don't think the 7 day isolation is the problem, it's the over testing. I know some won't agree with that but the NHS website still states only get a PCR test if you have the traditional covid symptoms or a positive LFT
The data is there to show that Omicron is mild. We have to accept now that if you're feeling well enough to work you shouldn't be isolating. Its not like the Delta variant where people were bed ridden for days and the deaths were high compared to the cases
Almost this time last year there were 1000+ deaths a day with ICU beds full to the brim. We are now seeing 100+ deaths a day and ICU beds around a third (possibly a half) of last year. That is fantastic progress
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Lots of mild illnesses aren't mild for some people.
The psychological side of it will still make it much worse as well.
All of the damage is being done by the over testing and isolation.
you're talking nonsense in all honesty Nick.
People don't think themselves into hospital because they got a positive test.
I would have called an ambulance for my wife on Sunday, she wouldn't have it and she was right to be fair but that's how bad she was, that wasn't psychological. It's a dangerous line you're peddling.
Yes, two of my friends who are married have had it and they had it last year and they said this time was a walk in the park but that's clearly not the case for everyone.
The lad I know who went to hospital is as fit a butchers dog and in his 30s, do you think he somehow tricked himself into the back of an ambulance, it's utter nonsense.
I haven't said everybody, have I?
Let's not pretend it doesn't make people more anxious because it's covid they have and not a cold.
Would you have wanted to call an ambulance of your wife just suffered from a bad cold or dose of flu or more inclined because it's covid?
Hopefully she's ok now though!
Just had my booster
if she couldn't breathe properly then yes I would have called an ambulance, but I've seen her with endless colds and flus and that's never happened but it happened with covid.
And it makes more people anxious because it's been responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.
I really don't understand your position, you don't want another lockdown which I don't either, but you also keep criticising the testing regime, the only conclusion from that is you want us to act like it's not here, which is totally irresponsible.
If everyone is only affected mildly like me at the moment then, yeah let everyone get it. I’ve had worse colds however I’m only a couple of days in and I am crapping myself that it’ll get worse.Yeah the actual illness is mild. We are causing more issues with the isolation and testing.
At what point do we just let people get it?
And that's part of my point about the anxiety and worry because it's called covid and not the flu or a cold.If everyone is only affected mildly like me at the moment then, yeah let everyone get it. I’ve had worse colds however I’m only a couple of days in and I am crapping myself that it’ll get worse.
9pm mine was. Last of the day. This was in the Black Country thoughthey still jabbing this late into the evening?
What benefit is testing somebody with no symptoms every day? Then forcing people who aren't poorly to be at home?
What benefit is making a kid stay at home for a week when there's nothing wrong with them? This then means somebody has to look after them and stay off work too.
Of course it will be here still, it's not going to go away any time soon and at what point do we say just carry on as best we can? I said it weeks ago, it won't be the actual illness causing issues but the isolation nonsense.
If everyone is only affected mildly like me at the moment then, yeah let everyone get it. I’ve had worse colds however I’m only a couple of days in and I am crapping myself that it’ll get worse.
I'm currently testing every day and especially today as I returned to work, why wouldn't I?
I'm in a house with 2 covid sufferers why would I risk passing it onto my colleagues? To not test would be irresponsible and it's hardly having a major impact on my life.
And I'll only have to stay home if I get a positive test and I'll follow it up with a PCR, again, why wouldn't I, it would be irresponsible for me to ignore a positive test and mix with other people.
I have every sympathy with the school argument, I don't have school aged kids but i see family and friends
struggling with it and it's hard.
But I really don't see why you would call isolation nonsense, if people have had a positive test they should be isolating, again, not to do so would be irresponsible.
I've highlighted how serious this illness can be, I've never known an illness to hit so many people around me with a small number seriously, why wouldn't anyone with it isolate, I really can't understand your thinking.
My point was more about the industries that will have to test every day regardless of them being in contact with somebody who has it.
It's isolation causing the issues. Not the actual illness, it's not People all bed ridden. The huge majority of people now seem to just have a cold. Yes some will need poorly from it and others have no symptoms at all.
Do we isolate because of the flu and colds next winter and force people to stay at home for 7 days? It's not viable.
If my daughter had it in term time then id have been off work to look after her and I wouldn't have had a positive test. She had a headache and would have needed a week off school. That's me or her mum off work to look after her, who does our jobs? What happens to those who won't get paid for the week off to look after their kid while there's nothing actually wrong with them?but if you test every day and the tests are negative you won't have to isolate.
Who are these people who are isolating without positive tests?
If my daughter had it in term time then id have been off work to look after her and I wouldn't have had a positive test. She had a headache and would have needed a week off school.
So then you also have people who are isolating with absolutely no symptoms or a cold. That's 7 days.
You have a small business where people have kids and you could be ruined without anybody actually being poorly.
There's a massive knock on effect. At what point do we stop hiding from it? Where's the threshold?
We keep hearing "save the NHS" but when a nurse has to be off because somebody they live with has it and they still test negative then it's going to cause issues.
if your daughter was off with a flu or cold you'd have to look after her as you keep saying.
But I've acknowledged how difficult it is for parents of school aged children.
But who are these people, aside from parents, who are isolating without a positive test and no symptoms? No one should be doing that. And a parent looking after an ill child isn't isolating, they're looking after their child.
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