Well actually yes. By the simple point you’re more likely to be unaware that you have the virus if you’ve asymptotic so therefore more likely to be mixing unaware that you are potentially spreading the virus. What you say is correct on face value but ignores the fact that people with symptoms are less likely to come into contact with people in the first place....well, actually its NO.
Viral load & shedding are lower in asymptomatic cases & viral clearance is a lot quicker....... so NO is the correct answer. HTH.
But even symptomatic you enter your most contagious phase 2 days before you show symptoms and a LFT will come back negative. If you've been mixing anyway at that point the horse has already bolted.Well actually yes. By the simple point you’re more likely to be unaware that you have the virus if you’ve asymptotic so therefore more likely to be mixing unaware that you are potentially spreading the virus. What you say is correct on face value but ignores the fact that people with symptoms are less likely to come into contact with people in the first place.
Death was a thing before COVID. It is never, ever going to be stopped is it?
I'm not happy to see anybody die, you have to look at it realistically though sometimes.
Keep seeing this mentioned on here but can't find any source for it when I google. Where has it come from?We currently have 2 deaths per million people.
Because it isn't that simple. Vaccination is probably the most important thing but clearly it doesn't totally stop the spread of the virus. So other measures are necessary at times.The government also sets the isolation rules. Sorry but if being fully vaccinated isn’t enough then what’s the point in us having given out 100 million jabs?
Well stop making silly statements about others then. No one is happy to see people die or suffer.
It's very sad that people are quite happy to see loads of businesses and people die around them because of their obsession with COVID.
The NHS is currently getting hammered by staff absence, it isn't the only one either.
Nice to see you suddenly worried about NHS staff welfare after you spent 2020 slagging them off for protesting a pay freeze!
I said the NHS, didn't I? Isn't that what we are all meant to be protecting? At least they will be on full pay while they isolate.
You will also find most of what I slagged off was people pointlessly clapping
My Dad is in the at risk category and has followed all the government advise which essentially means he hasn't left the house since this whole thing started. He got taken into hospital Christmas Day and now has covid.Well we need to stop hospitals being super spreaders. People are generally sick when they go to hospital so they need to be protected.
I said the issue caused to the NHS. I didn't say anything about personal welfare for NHS staff in the last day or so did I?No, you started a thread specifically arguing that they shouldn’t complain about a pay freeze: Pay Freeze for Public Workers
But tell us more about how you’re worried for their well-being
Most contagious just means the point you’re most at risk of passing it on not that you’re no longer capable of passing it on.But even symptomatic you enter your most contagious phase 2 days before you show symptoms and a LFT will come back negative. If you've been mixing anyway at that point the horse has already bolted.
Most contagious just means the point you’re most at risk of passing it on not that you’re no longer capable of passing it on.
Because it isn't that simple. Vaccination is probably the most important thing but clearly it doesn't totally stop the spread of the virus. So other measures are necessary at times.
Well there's the answer. Government support.
No.Are you advocating a zero Covid strategy?
No.
Are you advocating we should let it rip? Including in hospitals?
Where do you live Earlsdon
Amsterdam.
If there is one thing the majority of us can probably agree on, that is that most people that are going to have the jab have already had it.
Amsterdam.
Keep seeing this mentioned on here but can't find any source for it when I google. Where has it come from?
That would equate to what, 130 deaths in total if the whole population of the UK got covid yet there's already been 317 deaths reported this year.
Which would be over 50K a year. So if we're having that debate the first thing to establish is how much that number would go up if we remove all restrictions as it seems when people say living with it they don't actually mean living with it they mean going back to exactly how things were pre-covid.It is a daily average so 2 per million per day is around 140 deaths a day.
Went there in 2019, ridiculously expensive I found
I guess it depends which lady/ladies you pick BSB
And worth recalling Nick complaining about the pointlessness of the politics debates on hereNice to see you suddenly worried about NHS staff welfare after you spent 2020 slagging them off for protesting a pay freeze!
And worth recalling Nick complaining about the pointlessness of the politics debates on here
I'm really confused about where we are with all this right now.
Using skybluestalk.co.uk threads for guidance is not on my new years resolution list! The odd good resource is posted in here on occasion tbf.If you are using this thread for guidance, I'm not fecking surprised.
I know.Most contagious just means the point you’re most at risk of passing it on not that you’re no longer capable of passing it on.
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