SBAndy
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Yep, bang on. You do love a hypothetical scenario don’t you.
Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (38 Viewers)
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Yep, bang on. You do love a hypothetical scenario don’t you.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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In which case people need to admit that it is not halting transmission then. It would make for a lot more honest conversations and solutions.
shmmeee
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I’ve still got a Hill Street Blues lighter somewhere. Lovely Silver Haze there. Lost in Amsterdam was my favourite, even the missus was eyeing up the waitresses!
shmmeee
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The vaccine is reducing transmission, not halting it but more importantly it’s reducing hospitalisations and ICU usage which is the important thing for avoiding lockdowns (interesting though someone ok R4 today saying England and Scotland has basically the same movement data over December so England was in a voluntary lockdown despite the rules - which brings into question how much official lockdown rules matter when most people lock themselves down if the virus is at large)
Grendel
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Up to 90% of Covid patients in ICU are unvaccinated, medic claims
Professor Rupert Pearse, who is on the frontlines at the Royal London Hospital, said most patients in critical care wards were in their 20s and 30s. He said unjabbed people were more at risk from Covid.
www.dailymail.co.uk
We'll_live_and_die
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I felt worse from my booster last Wednesday than I do from having covid this Wednesday.
Does that mean the vaccine works? I thought it wouldn’t work fully for 14 days after the booster?
Does that mean the vaccine works? I thought it wouldn’t work fully for 14 days after the booster?
Grendel
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Jesus Christ
Philosoraptor
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Covid central at my workplace.
Good majority off with it.
Just sitting here twiddling my thumbs for the last 3 hours.
Nothing to do.
Good majority off with it.
Just sitting here twiddling my thumbs for the last 3 hours.
Nothing to do.
We'll_live_and_die
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Jesus when did you first have symptoms?
Yep 14 days AFAIK
But you will have the residual from the initial shots plus your t cells Will be handling what your anti bodies haven't.
shmmeee
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The first two shots would still be providing protection, but yeah the booster has an effect before even a week is up:
We'll_live_and_die
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Oh so it’s nearly 100% of its effect within 7 days. I first showed symptoms 4 days after the booster.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Up to 90% of Covid patients in ICU are unvaccinated, medic claims
Professor Rupert Pearse, who is on the frontlines at the Royal London Hospital, said most patients in critical care wards were in their 20s and 30s. He said unjabbed people were more at risk from Covid.www.dailymail.co.uk
One guy in the daily mail?
I think I will take the British Medical Journal.
Covid-19: Fact check—how many patients in hospital are unvaccinated?
Intensive care units in the UK are filling up with patients with covid-19 who have not been fully vaccinated, a number of media reports have claimed over the past week. It led to the prime minister, Boris Johnson, urging people to get vaccinated to reduce the pressure on hospitals. He said that...
Brighton Sky Blue
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One guy in the daily mail?
I think I will take the British Medical Journal.
Covid-19: Fact check—how many patients in hospital are unvaccinated?
Intensive care units in the UK are filling up with patients with covid-19 who have not been fully vaccinated, a number of media reports have claimed over the past week. It led to the prime minister, Boris Johnson, urging people to get vaccinated to reduce the pressure on hospitals. He said that...www.bmj.com
All that does is re-emphasise why vaccination is necessary
Evo1883
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Saturday .. had my results back about 20 mins ago .. positive
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Again, it is dependent on health an age largely.
I was just pointing out the false information that was being spread in here. I thought people liked that
Brighton Sky Blue
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Again, it is dependent on health an age largely.
I was just pointing out the false information that was being spread in here. I thought people liked that
The numbers in hospital would clearly be worse.
We'll_live_and_die
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So you can do lat flows tomorrow and Friday. Free by Saturday if they come back negative.
Grendel
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One guy in the daily mail?
I think I will take the British Medical Journal.
Covid-19: Fact check—how many patients in hospital are unvaccinated?
Intensive care units in the UK are filling up with patients with covid-19 who have not been fully vaccinated, a number of media reports have claimed over the past week. It led to the prime minister, Boris Johnson, urging people to get vaccinated to reduce the pressure on hospitals. He said that...
At least you now admit the vaccine is vital brilliant and tbe thing that will return us to normality and anti vaxxers are clogging the system
“trap fallen into”
clint van damme
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You posted incorrect information into this thread and now start throwing laughing emojis around. It does not look good.
I have always maintained the vaccine is in general good, but we have lost all perspective on age and health, as well as general risk. Considering you had to lie when posting something to exaggerate, that sort of proves my point.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Is this like when you trotted out the line on myocarditis when it’s been proven there’s a higher risk of it with an infection?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You mean when I pointed out the vaccine and how effective it is on people changes based on health and age, with it being of very, very little influence to young healthy people? Then, any side effects of the vaccine compared to it mean that it is a worthwhile debate to have.
You couldn´t argue against that so you trotted out the being offended and rubbishing narrative.
Sick Boy
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Most I’ve ever paid was something like £20 for a pint of Tiger in Singapore airport.
Grendel
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Grendel
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Why don’t you tell that to the wife of a 35 year old from this forum who died of the virus with no opportunity of a vaccine?
I’m sure she will appreciate your commentary
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Making it personal isn´t really cool Grendel, and that is pretty low even for you. It just once again proves my point that you have to go to those levels in order to try and win an argument on the internet, because your facts are dodgy as fuck.
We understand the virus a lot more now than we did back then, and like anyone who has passed away from the virus at a young age, it is tragic, but fortunately it is also extremely rare. This is a world wide issue that involves everybody, if we lose sight of that perspective, then no one will have a life left any more regardless.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not how I recall that whatsoever. You went on about young people ‘having doubts’ which actually aren’t grounded in anything that shows the vaccine is a bigger threat than the virus.
Grendel
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Its hardly personal is it? It’s a statement that negates your own narrative where you glibly say “it’s only 100 deaths below this age it’s the old it’s the obese it’s the sick”
dear me
Grendel
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Which is exactly what he claimed
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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By and large it is. If by this point you don´t understand this then I can´t help you.
Grendel
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Oh it’s not me that needs help
Brighton Sky Blue
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Before you said there were still some question marks around the vaccine for young people. Care to elaborate?