You don’t think not testing and walking around and expelling viral load by coughing (assuming you are covid positive) is putting someone at risk of catching the virus??? Or am I misunderstanding your point?
The "assuming you are covid positive" is the key point. People have lost all sense of proportion. People have forever and will continue to forever spread respiratory viruses including covid. Individuals making assumptions that somebody is covid positive because they've coughed a couple of times is hysterical, and the further comment that the person is endangering his family is beyond contempt.
Which is where this started as someone was saying a school was wrong to deliver virtual learning one day a week for certain pupils.
Ah I didn’t read it like that but I assume the black white right wrong stuff comes inThe "assuming you are covid positive" is the key point. People have lost all sense of proportion. People have forever and will continue to forever spread respiratory viruses including covid. Individuals making assumptions that somebody is covid positive because they've coughed a couple of times is hysterical, and the further comment that the person is endangering his family is beyond contempt.
That’s where I think prejudice comes in both waysYep...Except its every pupil, one day per week....so for many many of them, its effectively a 20% cut in learning hours, meals & general care/supervision.... and why?
Because a load of teachers & support staff are sat at home, perfectly healthy, but a little plastic stick says they must remain at home until 2 more little plastic sticks tell them they can return.....
...and return to a school where (like wider society) Covid is completely endemic, absolutely rife, officially less deadly & less of a threat than flu & pretty much totally harmless to school children.
Its dumb as fuck.
My wife wasn't sat at home perfectly healthy when she had it 2 weeks ago, she was ill, the school she works at operates a come to work if you are fit enough policy regardless of a positive test result.Yep...Except its every pupil, one day per week....so for many many of them, its effectively a 20% cut in learning hours, meals & general care/supervision.... and why?
Because a load of teachers & support staff are sat at home, perfectly healthy, but a little plastic stick says they must remain at home until 2 more little plastic sticks tell them they can return.....
...and return to a school where (like wider society) Covid is completely endemic, absolutely rife, officially less deadly & less of a threat than flu & pretty much totally harmless to school children.
Its dumb as fuck.
It’s only so they can eat themJust unhinged
Well, after 2 years the Rona has finally caught up with me. Felt rough on tuesday wednesday but no positive test, and now im better the faint line turns up!
I love it most of the timeReturned to the office for the first time since 2020 this week, has lifted my mood.
I must be unusual though as barely anybody else in my team is doing so, just can't get the mindset of wanting to be in your house all of the time
Can take 10 days. Can I just check that you know the stick doesn’t go up your arseMy wife tested positive on Sunday, I've felt mildly rubbish for a week and assumed I had the same but was a few days behind. Nope, negative tests all the way. Either I'm immune or covid is a slow fucker
I've been back to the office twice a week at least for about two months, makes a huge difference seeing peopleReturned to the office for the first time since 2020 this week, has lifted my mood.
I must be unusual though as barely anybody else in my team is doing so, just can't get the mindset of wanting to be in your house all of the time
Can take 10 days. Can I just check that you know the stick doesn’t go up your arse
Returned to the office for the first time since 2020 this week, has lifted my mood.
I must be unusual though as barely anybody else in my team is doing so, just can't get the mindset of wanting to be in your house all of the time
That's just not an issue for me, I don't even really understand it tbh. I'm not even sure it's true when some people say it, I think people perceive productivity to mean "no dwell time". Anyway, why would you produce more for no more pay?Way more productive at home. I’ve been in 6 out of the last ten days and got half as much done as I did in the other four.
That's just not an issue for me, I don't even really understand it tbh. I'm not even sure it's true when some people say it, I think people perceive productivity to mean "no dwell time". Anyway, why would you produce more for no more pay?
In my current job I review a lot of documentation people produce at home, and tbh, they all need to get back in the office and to start asking for help.
Maybe it’s because my job requires lots of focus and my headphones are broke . I find in the office come 2pm everyone else is chatting for the rest of the day and I can’t concentrate. Even in the office my team all talks through slack and we have team members in Germany and Portugal so it’s not a massive difference. Biggest benefit is the social stuff.
As for why I want to be more productive: cos I’ve got stock options and I want the company to succeed so they’re worth something. I couldn’t do a job I dnot care about really, since leaving teaching I’ve only worked at start ups I believe in and want to help succeed.
Work with a team of data analysts and they are absolutely convinced that working from home enables them to be way more effective and focusedWay more productive at home. I’ve been in 6 out of the last ten days and got half as much done as I did in the other four.
Every metric we use shows that productivity has gone up significantly with everything working from home. We also had a meeting where we had to go round everyone in the company and them say if they wanted to go back to the office or not. One or two said they'd like the option but everyone else said they preferred working from home.Way more productive at home. I’ve been in 6 out of the last ten days and got half as much done as I did in the other four.
Work with a team of data analysts and they are absolutely convinced that working from home enables them to be way more effective and focused
That's just not an issue for me, I don't even really understand it tbh. I'm not even sure it's true when some people say it, I think people perceive productivity to mean "no dwell time". Anyway, why would you produce more for no more pay?
In my current job I review a lot of documentation people produce at home, and tbh, they all need to get back in the office and to start asking for help.
Where have I said I don't care about my job? It's a different thing from doing more than you are actually paid to do. My ethos is to do what you're paid to do and do it well.
I don't have any shares, though I possibly wish I did have given the company share price has increased over 100% in the 7 years since I started. That said, on the downside employee share options come with potentially considerable downsides as well which put me off.
In my current job I review a lot of documentation people produce at home, and tbh, they all need to get back in the office and to start asking for help.
I agree. Bizarrely the benefits of going in are for the employees who miss the social aspect. For most employers the cost in terms of office costs and loss of productivity are substantial.It’s different for everyone, I also feel I’m far more productive from home and my KPIs suggest that. I don’t see a direct benefit to me going into an office, having to travel an hour each way and pay the cost of said travel. People newer to the role that I’m in would see great benefits and I get the angle of some of my knowledge rubbing off on them, but the newest recruit on our team joined 4 years ago.
Besides, the fucking noise in the office when you’re on the phone to someone in comparison to when at home. Staggering how I ever got anything done there.
Sorry I thought that’s what you were implying by asking why I cared how much work I did. The other reason is I work on an output not hours basis, I don’t have set hours I need to be available as long as I’m in meetings and completing my tasks. It’s in my interests to be productive even aside from any financial reward.
You seem upset other people have a different working style to you. I’m sorry you don’t like working from home, others have a different opinion.
I'm not upset! I challenge the notion that people are inherently less productive in an office environment because I don't believe it to be true. That said, I certainly don't advocate people being forced into work for no good reason.
Your workplace sounds pretty progressive, I agree with the measure of work being output not hours, arbitrary contracted hours belong in industry that is for the most part long gone.
Worked from home over your life, or over the pandemic do you mean?When people quote increased productivity at home its obvious they just want to be at home
I would hazard a guess I have worked from home for more than most - if anyone on this forum - times have changed but those at home I wonder if they have conditions that require them to be visibly on line to HQ all the time.
Worked from home over your life, or over the pandemic do you mean?
When people quote increased productivity at home its obvious they just want to be at home
I would hazard a guess I have worked from home for more than most - if anyone on this forum - times have changed but those at home I wonder if they have conditions that require them to be visibly on line to HQ all the time.
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