Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (53 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Coronavirus: Real Madrid squad in quarantine after positive test

And La Liga suspended.

 

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[rob9872]

We should just get the players to all play night on, night off for the next two weeks to ensure we get it finished.

 

[Briles]

The idiots who are complaining about sporting events being cancelled and being played behind closed doors, are the same idiots that are the reason the government have to put a ban on it.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

You are actually more likely to get it from touch screens, work hot desks, shopping trollies etc

It's not just what you touch though - this IMO is where much of the misinformation lies. Covid-19 is actually most likely spread through person to person contact where viral particles are spread through coughing, sneezing etc.

The CDC also believes that whilst some coronaviruses can live on surfaces for days, touching a surface where the virus has recently landed is a less common method of transmission than if you were to come into contact with someone infected with Covid-19. This is why stadiums are of particular concern - especially as scientists are arguing that the virus is at its most contagious point when the affected are asymptomatic. Hence why simply being in close proximity to large groups is becoming ill-advised.

At the end of the day you can't actually say you are more likely to catch it from touch screens, hot desks etc. because even the experts aren't sure and information of this ilk seems to be changing daily.

 

[David O'Day]

And La Liga suspended.

It's a basketball player that has tested positive. The football team share a training facility so have had to isolate.



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[David O'Day]

Its official, we are a country run by spineless wimps!

What are you gathering on about

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[AStonesThrow]

Cobra meeting at 1.30, should have an update shortly after

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

It's not common sense, it's the current medical advise

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It's not current medical advise that you're more likely to catch coronavirus down your local than at a stadium containing thousands. That's very much your lack of common sense I'm afraid.

 

[Astute]

Wouldn't surprise me if the rest of the season was cancelled soon. You can play behind closed doors but the players will also end up catching it.

Then for the fallout of deciding who goes up/down. This could be fun. As long as we go up that is.

 

[Grendel]

It's not just what you touch though - this IMO is where much of the misinformation lies. Covid-19 is actually most likely spread through person to person contact where viral particles are spread through coughing, sneezing etc.

The CDC also believes that whilst some coronaviruses can live on surfaces for days, touching a surface where the virus has recently landed is a less common method of transmission than if you were to come into contact with someone infected with Covid-19. This is why stadiums are of particular concern - especially as scientists are arguing that the virus is at its most contagious point when the affected are asymptomatic. Hence why simply being in close proximity to large groups is becoming ill-advised.

At the end of the day you can't actually say you are more likely to catch it from touch screens, hot desks etc. because even the experts aren't sure and information of this ilk seems to be changing daily.

I am only quoting a medical experts remarks today and that it would be not a good idea to
Cancel any events as the risk is virtually nil at the event as it stands but may change in three weeks or so

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

Wouldn't surprise me if the rest of the season was cancelled soon. You can play behind closed doors but the players will also end up catching it.

Then for the fallout of deciding who goes up/down. This could be fun. As long as we go up that is.

You've touched on an interesting point. If players start catching the virus then fixtures will obviously have to be cancelled. Then what?

 

[David O'Day]

It's not current medical advise that you're more likely to catch coronavirus down your local than at a stadium containing thousands. That's very much your lack of common sense I'm afraid.

No it's medical opinion that open air gatherings are low risk. So stick that up your pipeyou Lego eating mouth breathet

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[SkyBlueCRJ]

No it's medical opinion that open air gatherings are low risk. So stick that up your pipeyou Lego eating mouth breathet

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Ah yes, I forgot the toilets, hospitality lounges, stadium bars, and boxes are all outside in the open air. I do apologise.

 

[torchomatic]

I've already paid for my hotel for Blackpool away without the refund option so we'll be going up there game or not. Looks like it's fish and chips and donkey rides but no footie!

Same with us for Lincoln. It's Mothers Day on the Sunday, so we'll still go and stay the night.

 

[Nick]

Ah yes, I forgot the toilets, hospitality lounges, stadium bars, and boxes are all outside in the open air. I do apologise.

I piss where I want and won't use the bar.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

The idiots who are complaining about sporting events being cancelled and being played behind closed doors, are the same idiots that are the reason the government have to put a ban on it.

Sorry, you might have to provide your rationale on this one since as far as I can see it's the idiots going round like a bunch of private frasers.

 

[torchomatic]

I'm sure it was McDonald's (?) who have those touchscreens where they nearly all had trace of human excrement on when tested, which is still more appetising than the menu. The one that I've always been paranoid about are the general toilets at work, some students appear to be actual animals at the best of times with the lack of hygiene so I'm walking further just to get my business done safely

Since I was ill, I've always used hand gel daily and have opened doors, etc with my hand in my sleeve, as I have seen how dirty people can be, not washing their hands after going to the toilet, etc. You see it all the time in footy grounds. It's almost as it the world is catching up with me.

 

[Briles]

Sorry, you might have to provide your rationale on this one since as far as I can see it's the idiots going round like a bunch of private frasers.

A quick glance on social media shows a lot of people planning to gather in large groups outside the grounds even if played behind close doors.

Go figure.

 

[Flying Fokker]

I've already paid for my hotel for Blackpool away without the refund option so we'll be going up there game or not. Looks like it's fish and chips and donkey rides but no footie!

You could still be a Sky Blue on tour.

 

[covcity4life]

Just delay decisions till may.

Sensible no but better for cov lol

 

[AStonesThrow]

A quick glance on social media shows a lot of people planning to gather in large groups outside the grounds even if played behind close doors.

Go figure.

Just seen footage of the PSG game against Dortmund. Massive crowd outside the ground, players celebrating with the fans after the game

 

[Nick]

A quick glance on social media shows a lot of people planning to gather in large groups outside the grounds even if played behind close doors.

Go figure.

You aren't ever going to be able to stop people.

 

[Briles]

You aren't ever going to be able to stop people.

Dispersal orders, fines and the army combined would give it a bloody good go.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

A quick glance on social media shows a lot of people planning to gather in large groups outside the grounds even if played behind close doors.

Go figure.

Because they sit in an office or workplace or use a supermarket or travel by public transport through the day so it ain't going to materially affect their chances of picking up the virus, and they know that unless they are elderly or otherwise susceptible then the worse that's likely to happen is that they get an annoying cough and feel a bit shit.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

I am only quoting a medical experts remarks today and that it would be not a good idea to
Cancel any events as the risk is virtually nil at the event as it stands but may change in three weeks or so

I suppose it's the proactive vs reactive debate.

 

[Briles]

Because they sit in an office or workplace or use a supermarket or travel by public transport through the day so it ain't going to materially affect their chances of picking up the virus, and they know that unless they are elderly or other susceptible then the worse that's likely to happen is that they get an annoying cough and feel a bit shit.

It isn't about them getting it its about them getting it and passing it on to someone who will die from it. Government says "We are banning large scale events for peoples safety" and these morons go "Nah fuck it, lets all get in a big group anyway"

I'd say its natural selection but it aint the divs who will die its the innocent

 

[mark82]

Cobra meeting at 1.30, should have an update shortly after

Almost certain it'll be very similar restrictions to what Ireland have put in place. I can't see any other outcome.

 

[Flying Fokker]

NEWS: Matchday hospitality sold out at all remaining games , except for Wycombe midweek match

Surely an update about this tells us they’re not going to be playing behind closed doors?

It may be a bit of insurance ruse.. max revenue losses.

 

[Nick]

Dispersal orders, fines and the army combined would give it a bloody good go.

Going to have to rush through some laws sharpish then. Imagine sending the army in because some people are outside a football ground singing songs and cheering.

 

[theferret]

The way Chinese treat animals is disgusting but I bet you lot have had KFC where the animals don't even get to walk they're so fat in their short lives or battery eggs where the chickens never get to move or foie gras where they force feed an animal until it is ready to burst.

We'd have a leg to stand on about their practices if we weren't still barbaric hypocrites. Theirs is just out in the open instead of hidden in a slaughter house.

When it comes to animal welfare, we're a long way ahead of the Chinese. There are some questionable practices here, absolutely, although I think KFC have recently moved to notably improve their minimum welfare standards.

I've been to China a number of times. I have walked through these markets - they are pretty horrific. This is the stuff they have out in the open, can you imagine what they do out of the public glare? I once went for a meal there when my food was live and I had to skewer it and boil it alive. It was a backstreet 'hotpot' place, but not of the Betty Turpin variety.

I say this without prejudice, because I have Chinese friends who live there who I speak to daily, some of whom are dog owners who are as appalled by the dog meat festival as we are. But, there is a chilling indifference to the treatment of animals in much of China which is truly shocking.

 

[David O'Day]

Ah yes, I forgot the toilets, hospitality lounges, stadium bars, and boxes are all outside in the open air. I do apologise.

Forgot that toilets and bars are also in indoors venues. Oh wait

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[Nick]

When it comes to animal welfare, we're a long way ahead of the Chinese. There are some questionable practices here, absolutely, although I think KFC have recently moved to notably improve their minimum welfare standards.

I've been to China a number of times. I have walked through these markets - they are pretty horrific. This is the stuff they have out in the open, can you imagine what they do out of the public glare? I once went for a meal there when my food was live and I had to skewer it and boil it alive. It was a backstreet 'hotpot' place, but not of the Betty Turpin variety.

I say this without prejudice, because I have Chinese friends who live there who I speak to daily, some of whom are dog owners who are as appalled by the dog meat festival as we are. But, there is a chilling indifference to the treatment of animals in much of China which is truly shocking.

I don't eat KFC anyway, the state of their restaurants is off putting enough.

 

[David O'Day]

Forgot that toilets and bars are also in indoors venues. Oh wait

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I'm loving the argument that be ause parts of a football stadium are kn doors outdoor gatherings are as much a risk as indoor gatherings.

Amazeballs

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[Flying Fokker]

A quick glance on social media shows a lot of people planning to gather in large groups outside the grounds even if played behind close doors.

Go figure.

Don’t you think it is simply about being a fan of the club you love. We already have half the fans staying away anyway.
Btw. CT says that schools could be shut next Friday,

 

[theferret]

Up to 100,000 people visit Meadowhall shopping centre (all indoors) daily. Will that be closed? I suspect not, whereas 7000 people sitting outside at St Andrews is too much of a risk. Doesn't seem to be much consistency.