Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (208 Viewers)

[Nick]

myself and the wife passed a house on Fletchemstead Highway this afternoon while going out for our daily walk.
A house had a balloon rainbow outside, I said look at those attention seekers, she accused me of being cynical:

The reason why this Coventry house has been covered in balloons

just a fucking publicity scam.

So many people are at it.

Have to try and outdo each other for likes

 

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[David O'Day]

myself and the wife passed a house on Fletchemstead Highway this afternoon while going out for our daily walk.
A house had a balloon rainbow outside, I said look at those attention seekers, she accused me of being cynical:

The reason why this Coventry house has been covered in balloons

just a fucking publicity scam.

Using a pandemic to advertise your business. Classy

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[Flying Fokker]

Just seen the France figures.

1355 deaths. 24 hours.

• 2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes [source] [source]

 

[MalcSB]

It's good, but having trusts need to rack up debts to stay running is a scandal in the first place. I assume also that these were debts to outside sources - if they're actually govt held debts that's just terrible.

Not debts to outside sources. Trusts who spend more than their income have interest bearing loans from the Government. The interest and loan repayments make it more difficult to live within income, so more loans given. It’s not all loans that are being written off, only a certain type of loan. Most non foundation Trusts have loans. UHCW isn’t a foundation trust.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not debts to outside sources. Trusts who spend more than their income have interest bearing loans from the Government. The interest and loan repayments make it more difficult to live within income, so more loans given. It’s not all loans that are being written off, only a certain type of loan. Most non foundation Trusts have loans. UHCW isn’t a foundation trust.

The whole charade is purely designed to make the government balance sheet look better, it serves no other useful purpose. Erm yeah we'll come up with a tariff regime that isn't enough to fund the cost of your services, we'll loan you the balance with interest. Oh, and here's a PFI hospital you'll have to find the money for over the next 30 years.

 

[MalcSB]

The whole charade is purely designed to make the government balance sheet look better, it serves no other useful purpose. Erm yeah we'll come up with a tariff regime that isn't enough to fund the cost of your services, we'll loan you the balance with interest. Oh, and here's a PFI hospital you'll have to find the money for over the next 30 years.

That’s it in a nutshell.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

So many people are at it.

Have to try and outdo each other for likes

Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?

 

[Grendel]

Just seen the France figures.

1355 deaths. 24 hours.

it’s not in one day

• 2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes [source] [source]

 

[Saddlebrains]

All Coventry police outside UHCW applauding.

Heartwarming

 

[Saddlebrains]

Just seen the France figures.

1355 deaths. 24 hours.

• 2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes [source] [source]

Thats terrifying

 

[David O'Day]

If they also got the helicopter up its scandalous waste of resources

 

[Grendel]

Thats terrifying

it’s not one day - they have added the care home ones in from the start and now admit they are probably more

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Thats terrifying

They said lots of homes had people dying

 

[David O'Day]

Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?

Looking at another forces website it looks like it is around 1,700 an hour

 

[Sick Boy]

I saw there's starting to be some civil unrest in Italy, (you might tell me that's bollocks), but if its true, how long can the lock down hold before people really lose it?

There was some in Sicily which has a lot of off the books cash in hand work so people couldn’t claim government funded wages while they’re laid off. Since then millions have been allocated for food vouchers for those in need.
I think it’ll go on until May but it’ll hold until then, overall it’s being respected very well now.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Graph guy just updated for today’s figures, doesn’t make for good reading unfortunately

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Looking at another forces website it looks like it is around 1,700 an hour

Well worth it then.

 

[David O'Day]

Well worth it then.

The old bill have been taking absolute liberties.

Also if anyone has any crime to commit do it 8pm next Thursday, the dibble will all be down walsgrave

 

[Grendel]

Graph guy just updated for today’s figures, doesn’t make for good reading unfortunately

How is that showing the 1,300 recorded deaths on France today?

 

[wingy]

it’s not one day - they have added the care home ones in from the start and now admit they are probably more

Ours are going to be announced weekly.

 

[Grendel]

They said lots of homes had people dying

Many countries it seems are hiding deaths out of hospital

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[Ring Of Steel]

Graph guy just updated for today’s figures, doesn’t make for good reading unfortunately

USA now saying they might have a million cases on their own within a few weeks

 

[Grendel]

The article quoted a place called Bergamo where 900 died in March last year. This year 5,040 died but only 2,060 in the Coronavirus stats. In one care home alone over 50 died but none included in the stats

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The whole charade is purely designed to make the government balance sheet look better, it serves no other useful purpose. Erm yeah we'll come up with a tariff regime that isn't enough to fund the cost of your services, we'll loan you the balance with interest. Oh, and here's a PFI hospital you'll have to find the money for over the next 30 years.

Funny how 3 years ago they cheered when rejecting a pay rise for nurses, then last year they told the NHS there was no magic money tree, and yet now that they’re in the shit up to their necks they miraculously have £13bn to fiddle around with.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Looking at another forces website it looks like it is around 1,700 an hour

Can the world please please stop this self indulgent nonsense?

 

[Sick Boy]

The article quoted a place called Bergamo where 900 died in March last year. This year 5,040 died but only 2,060 in the Coronavirus stats. In one care home alone over 50 died but none included in the stats

The way deaths are reported is inconsistent everywhere it seems which doesn’t give a clear picture of what’s going on.

 

[Sick Boy]

Can the world please please stop this self indulgent nonsense?

The curse of social media, unfortunately

 

[fernandopartridge]

Funny how 3 years ago they cheered when rejecting a pay rise for nurses, then last year they told the NHS there was no magic money tree, and yet now that they’re in the shit up to their necks they miraculously have £13bn to fiddle around with.

Let's be fair to the tories here, Labour did nothing about any of this shit either

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Many countries it seems are hiding deaths out of hospital

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A bit like China? They have so much to answer for. They've sat on this for months before they had to let the cat out of the bag and its left everyone behind the game in dealing with it.

 

[Sick Boy]

Funny how 3 years ago they cheered when rejecting a pay rise for nurses, then last year they told the NHS there was no magic money tree, and yet now that they’re in the shit up to their necks they miraculously have £13bn to fiddle around with.

Yeah if people were actually genuine about showing gratitude to the NHS they wouldn’t go and vote for the party that openly cheered as nurses were rejected a payrise.

 

[Nick]

Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?

Really?? What the fuck.

The NHS staff don't want people clapping to make themselves feel better or get likes on social media they want PPE and testing. They want to not need food banks.

Its so pretentious.

 

[Sick Boy]

A bit like China? They have so much to answer for. They've sat on this for months before they had to let the cat out of the bag and its left everyone behind the game in dealing with it.

It seems that their prime minister has been taking lessons from North Korea and as soon as he got involved it miraculously started to suddenly go down.

 

[Grendel]

Spain it seems unlike Italy uk and France reported care home deaths which is why they are “higher”

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

It seems that their prime minister has been taking lessons from North Korea and as soon as he got involved it miraculously started to suddenly go down.

They're always so insular when it suits them and they need to learn that they can't get away with it. If they want the openness with travel and trade then they really need to toe the line with their less reasonable behaviour at home. The pandemic could have been controlled and monitored so much better by the rest of the world had they let everyone know, but no, they decide to go all 1950's communist state again and it fucks everyone over.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The way deaths are reported is inconsistent everywhere it seems which doesn’t give a clear picture of what’s going on.

I would tentatively suggest that the only thing anyone can say for sure is that the actual figures- whether it be cases, deaths or recoveries- are significantly larger than the reported numbers.