Yep.. the likes of Goebbels would have filled his jack-boots with facebook & twitter accounts....
...and, with due respect, I'd suggest the Iraq WMD saga was a little bit more than classic PR & spin mate.
Deaths overall in the U.K., not just Coronavirus recorded also makes grim reading and maybe a good indicator of the true amount of deaths due to Coronavirus. Number of people dying hits 20-year highDeaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
ONS statistics out, grim reading and as it covered Easter weekend only provisional (registry offices not necessarily open).
Tony Blair presented a dressed up dossier on the immediate danger Saddam apparently presented to the world and it turned out to be a hypothetical piece of homework that some student did in Brazil IIRC. It was basically pure fiction. As we then found out when there was no WMD’s.Ah I thought you were talking generally about New Labours use of spin. I’ll be honest I’m not into the ins and outs of Iraq (I was too busy getting pissed at Uni at the time), I see a lot of claims and counter claims, but will bow to your greater knowledge.
Deaths overall in the U.K., not just Coronavirus recorded also makes grim reading and maybe a good indicator of the true amount of deaths due to Coronavirus. Number of people dying hits 20-year high
Difficult times. Hopefully it won’t come to that with lockdowns, social distancing etc keeping the averages down. You have to remember that what looks like could have been the peak is possibly been in that 4 week period, certainly we were on the upward trajectory during that period. Does show the importance of long term behaviour though.Average that out over the year and it's 400k excess deaths.
I do think there’s been a definite change in recent years to feeding people enough to stay in their bubble. When we all shared the same media we had some kind of shared truth that while still manipulated was at least shared. These days everyone’s got their own truth.
Campbell and co did what I’d call classic PR or spin rather than outright propaganda.
Tony Blair presented a dressed up dossier on the immediate danger Saddam apparently presented to the world and it turned out to be a hypothetical piece of homework that some student did in Brazil IIRC. It was basically pure fiction. As we then found out when there was no WMD’s.
Seems I’m not the only one with a hefty scepticism of that fake NHS account dude, this thread gives good reasons to err on the side of caution until something concrete is proven:
while there is no excuse for Government lies, this is not restricted to 1 party - remember the weapons of mass destruction ?
Think about people who you know who go into politics either locally or nationally - few of them would survive in large Corporations
While there’s some truth to this, I mean it’s the weirdos that have the time and inclination to attends hundreds of meetings to get selected mostly, I don’t get this fetishisation of the business world. I see lots and lots and lots of fucking useless people in business in high up positions taking in large salaries that have no discernible talents.
There is a talent in persuading people you should get a big salary
Arse licking, networking, shite talking nonses. Often don't have a clue about the jobs people below them do.While there’s some truth to this, I mean it’s the weirdos that have the time and inclination to attends hundreds of meetings to get selected mostly, I don’t get this fetishisation of the business world. I see lots and lots and lots of fucking useless people in business in high up positions taking in large salaries that have no discernible talents.
What are you dribbling boutDave your cough do you live near any factories that spew out dust , are you allergic to anything , I hear some of these plug in air fresheners can give you a cough
Asda and Aldi introduce a rule to only pick stuff up if people are buying it. Bit late, have they only just realised?
Especially when they don't want to own any part of itthe problem is the government is being caught lying on a daily basis, herd immunity, PPE, testing etc. When that happens it's very easy to perpetrate stuff like this or even worse the crackpot 5G theory. It would be great if every fucker just stuck to the facts, wishful thinking I know.
People should do that anyway, I was in Aldi last week and some scruffy fucker was picking up virtually every packet of something from the fridge. Why do you need to handle anything if you're not blind?
Not everybody who is visually impaired is blind
Not everybody who is visually impaired is blind
Asda and Aldi introduce a rule to only pick stuff up if people are buying it. Bit late, have they only just realised?
I was using blind as a catch all term. This person wasn't mind as they were not examining it closely, just picking things up and putting them down again.
It would if it was true....
I don’t think anything brings down governments much anymore. Can you imagine a chancellor quoting in the past saying his office wasn’t independent then the government continuing.
Speaking of stacking how are they getting it on the shelves without touching it?Hows that going to work when they stack half the stuff so you can’t see what it is without picking it up?
I haven't had a chance to look into it but obviously the government has gotten PR agencies to perform dubious tasks on their behalf and have put out false narratives on social media before. That didn't have much of a negative effect so I guess it doesn't matter either way.
The problem is the government is now starting to challenge content on social media it considers counter productive and perhaps even dangerous during the pandemic which is fine.
However, during the general election when the fact check stuff came to light Raab said no one gives a toss about social media cut and thrust which really gave people a licence for this sort of thing
Its like when Gove made his we've had enough of experts comment.
There are consequence to this irresponsible rhetoric.
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