Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (2 Viewers)

[Astute]

The bbc link? Yeah fair enough but how was I meant to quote you on that link before you posted it? Ha ha

The other one you replied to showed that you are not allowed to travel long distances unless a very good reason to.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Grendel loses position as Maltese diplomat after 6 years in the post

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[hill83]

Weird. Felt sick second week of March and had a few of the symptoms as did the girl I am seeing (I was at her house all week and staying in the same bed and we were sick together).

She went for the antibody test last week and got her results on Friday and was positive. So I went and got mine done and just got results saying negative.

Really weird no? How accurate are these tests

I’d just assume you’ve got it and act accordingly to be honest.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That's what you should do but unlimited exercise in reality means if stopped by the police you can say I was out for a walk or I was driving to go for a walk

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[hill83]

The other one you replied to showed that you are not allowed to travel long distances unless a very good reason to.

But it’s from before today’s speech though isn’t it?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Should've kept the 'stay at home' instead of 'stay alert'. I still don't know what that means.

Also its great that people are encouraged to go back to work and go outdoors more as long as social distancing measures are in place. What about those wanting to see friends, families and partners not in the same household? Without stating the obvious (particularly where partners are concerned!) does that mean that this can only happen outdoors and 2m apart?

“stay alert” makes it sound like the virus is hiding behind bushes and in alleyways waiting to pounce on unsuspecting passers by

 

[David O'Day]

But it’s from before today’s speech though isn’t it?

Mans a plum mate

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[clint van damme]

What does it say then?

Have you not read it? If so why are you arguing about it?

Johnson said you can travel.to excersise ( he didn't specify a distance) a long as you are with people from your household and social distancing is maintained

So.my original point is correct. I can travel to Skeggy and spend all day on the beach but can't visit my daughter.

So who was it trying to point score?

 

[RegTheDonk]

I can go out tomorrow, drive to Skeggy, spend the day on the beach, but I can't visit my daughter who lives round the corner. It's fucking nonsense.

I know that's obviously excessive but someone in the commons or a member of the public to ask and clarify your point about the extended family. Got the same issue, daughter and grandkids live in the next road and we're all being very carful. FFS, her youngest is type 1 so obviously everyone is ensuring he's not put in any danger.

If you want to visit your immediate family, but "stay alert" by eg. keeping in the garden and 2m apart (no huggsys, take your own cans and hold onto your piss until you get home), I can't see any problem. Not much difference in the rules come Wednesday, when you can exercise as much as you want and sit on a park bench all day. Who's to say who's going to sit on the bench opposite?

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Can they?

They can travel a short distance for exercise. What is so difficult to understand?

How have exercise guidelines changed?

I know the truth doesn't go well with the point most are putting across here. But there's the rules for you.

'People in England are free to drive somewhere to exercise'

That means anywhere?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Grendel loses position as Maltese diplomat after 6 years in the post

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[Astute]

But it’s from before today’s speech though isn’t it?

Reiterating that travel hasn't changed. Short distance for exercise. Short distance as possible for shopping. Travel for work. If not stay at home.

 

[hill83]

Reiterating that travel hasn't changed. Short distance for exercise. Short distance as possible for shopping. Travel for work. If not stay at home.

From before today’s speech and the new rules tomorrow.

Am I going mental or what?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Can't people read?

Yes I can thankyou.

There are some on this thread that go p;atronising and pompous for the sake of it, I'm sure they're going to fill their boots.

 

[Astute]

'People in England are free to drive somewhere to exercise'

That means anywhere?

OK carry on with point scoring. There is enough out there to tell you.

 

[clint van damme]

A point Boris made was that you can play sport outdoors with your family.
But does he mean family, or should he mean household ?
Why can't Clint meet his daughter in the park round the corner and throw a ball to each other or sit on a bench ? ( 2 metres apart if it's a long one )
It's extremely confusing . Scotland Wales and NI have got it right. No confusion.

You have to be with people from your own household Alan.
Though I'm sure if you're right, as long as you maintain social distancing you could meet as you say. Though she's nearly 30 so.probably not really interested in a game of catch!

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Reiterating that travel hasn't changed. Short distance for exercise. Short distance as possible for shopping. Travel for work. If not stay at home.

not being funny pal, but it’s confusing even trying to make any sense of what you’re saying, let alone these new ‘rules’

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

If you have been keeping up you would know it is to do with households and not family. If you live together there is no extra risk unless those not in your household join you.

What is difficult to understand any of this?

Boris said you can play sport with your family. But family don't always live together. My two eldest daughters have their own families in their own homes but according to him I can have contact with them .
Stay at home is therefore completely dead in England but no one understands quite who they can see and who they can't.
You clearly do. Bully.

 

[Astute]

Yes I can thankyou.

There are some on this thread that go p;atronising and pompous for the sake of it, I'm sure they're going to fill their boots.

Sorry wasn't pointed at you. Just ended off using your words to aim at others making up their own stories.

 

[clint van damme]

not being funny pal, but it’s confusing even trying to make any sense of what you’re saying, let alone these new ‘rules’

The fact we're debating shows the message is confused.

 

[Astute]

From before today’s speech and the new rules tomorrow.

Am I going mental or what?

Going? This shutdown is having strange effects on people it seems.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

No one wants an argument on here.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You have to be with people from your own household Alan.
Though I'm sure if you're right, as long as you maintain social distancing you could meet as you say. Though she's nearly 30 so.probably not really interested in a game of catch!

You could meet up at the local garden centre near the geraniums. Go in separate cars . Take your birth certificates just in case.

 

[Astute]

The fact we're debating shows the message is confused.

It is only confusing if you listen to people who don't have a clue or that make their own story up.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

OK carry on with point scoring. There is enough out there to tell you.

I'm not trying to point score, I am just trying to point out what has been said verbatim both from the PM and the BBC article you posted.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Grendel loses position as Maltese diplomat after 6 years in the post

Malta envoy quits after comparing Merkel to Hitler

I actually think the bloke has a point.

 

[David O'Day]

The fact we're debating shows the message is confused.

Nah he's just spesh

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[Astute]

Boris said you can play sport with your family. But family don't always live together. My two eldest daughters have their own families in their own homes but according to him I can have contact with them .
Stay at home is therefore completely dead in England but no one understands quite who they can see and who they can't.
You clearly do. Bully.

So you don't understand the meaning of household?

OK.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I actually think the bloke has a point.

Not surprised, you talk about Germany like it's 1940

 

[Astute]

I'm not trying to point score, I am just trying to point out what has been said verbatim both from the PM and the BBC article you posted.

And you have missed all the times that 'household' has been mentioned?

 

[hill83]

Going? This shutdown is having strange effects on people it seems.

Right. The article you have quoted is from yesterday. It even says on it:


At present, people should only leave home if they have a "reasonable excuse"

That was yesterday mate, and right now it’s today and has changed based on what’s been said today.
Hopefully we get more information tomorrow.

But you piled in giving it point scoring with an outdated article and are trying to accuse me of being mental. Have another go.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Boris said you can play sport with your family. But family don't always live together. My two eldest daughters have their own families in their own homes but according to him I can have contact with them .
Stay at home is therefore completely dead in England but no one understands quite who they can see and who they can't.
You clearly do. Bully.

Boris did say household to be fair, not family.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Right. The article you have quoted is from yesterday. It even says on it:


At present, people should only leave home if they have a "reasonable excuse"

That was yesterday mate, and right now it’s changed. But you piled on giving it point scoring with an outdated article and are trying to accuse me of being mental. Have another go.

Look stop having a go at him, not sure why it is but people always seem to think he's in the wrong

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[Wyken Sky Blue]

And you have missed all the times that 'household' has been mentioned?

No? You must be getting mixed up with someone else.

From what Boris said and the article you posted, what is stopping me and other people in my household driving to a park 200 miles away to exercise?

 

[Astute]

Right. The article you have quoted is from yesterday. It even says on it:


At present, people should only leave home if they have a "reasonable excuse"

That was yesterday mate, and right now it’s today and has changed based on what’s been said today.
Hopefully we get more information tomorrow.

But you piled in giving it point scoring with an outdated article and are trying to accuse me of being mental. Have another go.

So what has changed today?

I must have missed it. Because nothing has changed yet.