Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (11 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Even lifelong Conservative voters must be starting to question these incompetent lot, surely there must be better in the party than this lot??!

 

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[Ian1779]

Even lifelong Conservative voters must be starting to question these incompetent lot, surely there must be better in the party than this lot??!

The party have abandoned a whole host of their voters when they left them to die in care homes as well.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Who looks after Cummings' kids when both parents are at work? Surely they must have some friends. Actually, I doubt it.

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[shmmeee]

Who looks after Cummings' kids when both parents are at work? Surely they must have some friends. Actually, I doubt it.

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He probably just leaves them at home and if they die they weren’t strong enough.

 

[clint van damme]

He probably just leaves them at home and if they die they weren’t strong enough.

It sounds like his son was around him a lot when he was ill (and confined in a car with him on a 250 mile journey).

I know there seems to be a bit of consensus now that the virus doesn't affect children as much but in fairly sure that wasn't the opinion at the time.
Seems highly irresponsible.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It sounds like his son was around him a lot when he was ill (and confined in a car with him on a 250 mile journey).

I know there seems to be a bit of consensus now that the virus doesn't affect children as much but in fairly sure that wasn't the opinion at the time.
Seems highly irresponsible.

Selfish and irresponsible how old are the parents?

 

[clint van damme]

Selfish and irresponsible how old are the parents?

I'm not sure. Haven't seen their ages mentioned so assuming under 70 or I think it would have been picked up on

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

her story is unravelling on Twitter, she’s basically just repeated what Cummings told her without question, now as it becomes clear he’s lying it’s also clear she’s purely operating as his mouthpiece. Incredibly embarrassing, highly unprofessional... and ultimately due to the way the U.K. has gone nobody will care and life will carry on as before.

Even though it’s been proven he’s lying, Downing St have announced that travelling 250m to see your parents while positive with COVID19 “did not break any guidelines”. Country’s gone to shit.

I’m sick of these pricks and we’re not even a year in

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Selfish and irresponsible how old are the parents?

His mum is 71, it was her birthday party apparently when he was up there.

 

[djr8369]

Incredible how many people are willing to stand up and defend somebody who at the least is guilty of rank hypocrisy and under any reasonable interpretation has broken the law. People are increasingly accepting and defensive of their own sides transgressions and willing to believe opposing narratives to a point that threatens the values and morals of this country. If this trend continues I fear the consequences.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Incredible how many people are willing to stand up and defend somebody who at the least is guilty of rank hypocrisy and under any reasonable interpretation has broken the law. People are increasingly accepting and defensive of their own sides transgressions and willing to believe opposing narratives to a point that threatens the values and morals of this country. If this trend continues I fear the consequences.

Not far away from fascism

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[Deleted member 5849]

Even lifelong Conservative voters must be starting to question these incompetent lot, surely there must be better in the party than this lot??!

Cameron - May - Johnson - ...

 

[djr8369]

Not far away from fascism

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People have been making comparisons to facism for a long time and it has been met largely with ridicule. However, there is no doubt, in my mind, that we are seeing things happen that would be steps along the journey towards facism. That's not to say it will happen just that some conditions to facilitate have and are taking place.

 

[clint van damme]

People have been making comparisons to facism for a long time and it has been met largely with ridicule. However, there is no doubt, in my mind, that we are seeing things happen that would be steps along the journey towards facism. That's not to say it will happen just that some conditions to facilitate have and are taking place.

Johnson is a big fan of Orban and Hungary is for all intents now a facist state.

 

[Sick Boy]

People have been making comparisons to facism for a long time and it has been met largely with ridicule. However, there is no doubt, in my mind, that we are seeing things happen that would be steps along the journey towards facism. That's not to say it will happen just that some conditions to facilitate have and are taking place.

The widespread usage of language like patriots, traitors etc is a worry

 

[Johnnythespider]

Wasn't there a yougov poll a while before the election asking if people would be happy to be led by an unelected leader, i found that very worrying.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

His mum is 71, it was her birthday party apparently when he was up there.

Handy

 

[djr8369]

The widespread usage of language like patriots, traitors etc is a worry

Yup, the patterns are there. Slippery slope but unless the government are opening gulags many will see it as harmless.


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[Sky Blue Pete]

His kid is 4 so they did need to do something. Pretty sure load of parents found themselves in similar positions. Wonder if the rules should have reflected this reality rather than not and as for him fighting it when he really should have been in hospital - what a complete knob

 

[clint van damme]

Grant Shapps hair should have it's own TV series.

 

[David O'Day]

Grant Shapps hair should have it's own TV series.

The 70s are best left where they are

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[chiefdave]

The briefing is going so badly today I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Shapps. Sent out to defend the indefensible, no doubt as nobody more senior has the guts to do it themselves.

 

[wingy]

Mmmm.
Is the weight of what they're saying here that it's ok to go to a second home or an Airbnb , holiday let etc.

 

[chiefdave]

His kid is 4 so they did need to do something. Pretty sure load of parents found themselves in similar positions. Wonder if the rules should have reflected this reality rather than not and as for him fighting it when he really should have been in hospital - what a complete knob

According to the government guidelines if you are unable to look after your children when you are displaying symptoms you should contact the local authority.

Also Jack Wakefield, who is Cummings brother in law, lives less than a mile away from them in London.

 

[David O'Day]

Cummings really can't last much longer.



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[Sky Blue Pete]

According to the government guidelines if you are unable to look after your children when you are displaying symptoms you should contact the local authority.

Also Jack Wakefield, who is Cummings brother in law, lives less than a mile away from them in London.

Yep I know. Quite cross

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

No apology either he doesn’t give a shit completely above the law

 

[clint van damme]

According to the government guidelines if you are unable to look after your children when you are displaying symptoms you should contact the local authority.

Also Jack Wakefield, who is Cummings brother in law, lives less than a mile away from them in London.

the advice at the time was explicit. If you have symptoms do not leave the house under any circumstances.

 

[Grendel]

the advice at the time was explicit. If you have symptoms do not leave the house under any circumstances.

What if you were doing some DIY and chopped your hand off?

 

[chiefdave]

the advice at the time was explicit.

Coincidence how the advice changed once he'd done this? They even dropped 'stay home' in favour of 'stay alert'.

At the end of the day if they were doing nothing wrong why has it been kept secret? His wife has written in the Mail, Spectator and been on Radio 4 describing how they coped with being symptomatic. All the while implying they were in London and no mention of travelling to Durham or help from his family.

 

[David O'Day]

What if you were doing some DIY and chopped your hand off?

I'd call 999 rather than drive 250 miles mate.



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[Grendel]

Id imagine Mr Cummings frightening indiscretion is likely to gain more attention and outrage than Fred and Rose and the new patio. Certainly more outrage

 

[clint van damme]

What if you were doing some DIY and chopped your hand off?

why would you be doing DIY if you were as ill as Wakefield claimed Cummings was?

 

[clint van damme]

Id imagine Mr Cummings frightening indiscretion is likely to gain more attention and outrage than Fred and Rose and the new patio. Certainly more outrage

Fred and Rose didn't tell everyone else not to bury young women under the patio before doing it themselves!!

 

[Grendel]

why would you be doing DIY if you were as ill as Wakefield claimed Cummings was?

Missing the point. This whole outrage is funny