Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (10 Viewers)

skybluetony176

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Remember thatcher at one point had a minus 60 rating in her first year and averaged minus 14 across her tenure - anyone with any political knowledge shows this actually will not worry him in the slightest
Margaret Thatcher also had the Falklands crisis to pull her through. Boris is having his Falklands moment and fluffing his lines.
 

Grendel

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The Gove stuff is true but I don’t think it would keep him on. Plenty of ways he could tarnish Gove or boost Raab or Sunak.

Real conviction politics at PM level has long gone. Thatcher whatever you think of her was the last real one other than Brown who was finished before he started - This is the new age developed by Blair and Campbell and its a winning formula
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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As for the Cummings saga has any considered that this might just be a deliberately engineered strategy?

I reckon he was having a laugh during Prince Andrew's interview and someone bet no-one could come up with a worse excuse than that. At which point Cummings replied "Hold my glasses"
 

djr8369

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Margaret Thatcher also had the Falklands crisis to pull her through. Boris is having his Falklands moment and fluffing his lines.

It’s a good point. Initially we saw support for the government surge, effect of a crisis, but as the public see the way it’s been handled it’s dropping. Still, long way until an election. A change in leader, some bad publicity of labour, memories of the pandemic fade and it wouldn’t surprise me if they win the next election.
 

djr8369

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Real conviction politics at PM level has long gone. Thatcher whatever you think of her was the last real one other than Brown who was finished before he started - This is the new age developed by Blair and Campbell and its a winning formula

I don’t disagree but what point are you trying to make? That he can’t tarnish Gove or boost the others because we are in a post truth era of politics?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Not good it’s boring as fuck, we need to focus on the real issues

Fair enough. Let's move on and start questioning Johnson on why he hasn't resigned seeing as he won't force someone out who broke the rules and thus he has no leadership. Or when he's going to resign for overseeing the highest death toll per capita in the world? Or any of the other myriad fuck ups and lies this government have made which are far too many for me to even bother going into here.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Boring. Really?

That's your reasoning?

We should stop scrutinising things as soon as they become boring. Good grief.

Makes you wonder why the Labour anti-semitism thing kept on going. That was boring as fuck so why didn't everyone just move on.

Oh yeah - because it's important!
 

Grendel

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I don’t disagree but what point are you trying to make? That he can’t tarnish Gove or boost the others because we are in a post truth era of politics?

Im saying politics is really like a convoluted business game - it’s easy to win at national level for the Tories as labour and its dimwit membership get it wrong time and time again

I know it’s simplistic but look at local council level. Liars charlatans and REAL simpletons get elected time and time again

Cummings if he managed labour and allowed to rip up their absurd obsession with members dictating policy would have delivered far more seats
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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One rule for the Elite and MP's and one rule for the rest of us, SHOCK HORROR.

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SkyBlueDom26

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So Dom you were here. Just ignoring the people who rightly pointed out the madness of pretending that all 5 tests have been met.



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What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen

I just hope it recovers enough so that we're not barred from going abroad. Seeing as we still have 350-400 dying a day, doesn't seem likely
 

SkyBlueDom26

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I just hope it recovers enough so that we're not barred from going abroad. Seeing as we still have 350-400 dying a day, doesn't seem likely

Im not bothered about going away this year tbh, had a holiday cancelled in July! But hopefully in the next 2 weeks the numbers will be under the 100s
 

chiefdave

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A hell of a lot more of these examples online also. Worrying. Just what is the true amount? Double what we've been told or a quarter?

I tend to err on the side of the latter, hence my postings at the minute
Lets assume that to be the case what do you believe has caused the additional 55K non-covid excess deaths?
 

chiefdave

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Excess deaths are not a good idea during the pandemic. The final analysis will evaluate excess deaths beyond the time period and smooth any subsequent reductions
Not sure I'd take much comfort in that if I'd lost months with a parent / grandparent due to the governments incompetence.
 

covmark

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I am, had one cancelled in April and have been working overtime with remote teaching with it set to get harder in June. Really need a week away!
You've been really quite vocal about the fact that you might have to teach pupils in a crowded classroom, but you're happy to mix in crowded airports and sit on aeroplanes with numerous others. Strange.

There's plenty of us that have been working overtime, extra shifts etc. Not feeling particularly desperate to get away now tbh. We had our August holiday cancelled. Seems it might well have gone ahead. However I don't fancy being on holiday and being restricted on what we can do, where we can go. I'd rather wait a while and enjoy our time away.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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You've been really quite vocal about the fact that you might have to teach pupils in a crowded classroom, but you're happy to mix in crowded airports and sit on aeroplanes with numerous others. Strange.

There's plenty of us that have been working overtime, extra shifts etc. Not feeling particularly desperate to get away now tbh. We had our August holiday cancelled. Seems it might well have gone ahead. However I don't fancy being on holiday and being restricted on what we can do, where we can go. I'd rather wait a while and enjoy our time away.

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To get to a country with hardly any new infections and which has managed the outbreak much better than we have and which will have something close to a normal tourist experience. You go on about the airports but the week spent in Greece will probably be safer than a week here if we're on about infections. We're also on about some point in mid July when even we should be out or nearly out of the woods.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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I am, had one cancelled in April and have been working overtime with remote teaching with it set to get harder in June. Really need a week away!
Maybe you’ll be back teaching in the class room within a month? Would you be comfortable with that or do you personally think it’s too early
 

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