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[Ring Of Steel]

I went to Turkey once I think I'll identify as a turk from now on.

I didn't know you had Turkish parentage

 

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

So hes American by birth then yes?
That twat david has Irish parentage but was born here,has never lived in Ireland but would rather identify as Irish for some freak reason. You think that's normal?

Most African-Americans have never been near Africa and their families haven't been to Africa in generations. Still identify as African-American rather than just American. We have a similar thing here with Indian/Pakistani communities that have never set foot in those countries but identify as such.

My auntie was born in Belfast but was brought here after two days. She considers herself English. Yet bizarrely she considers my other nan Welsh even though she was born here and couldn't speak any Welsh just because her Welsh parents gave her a Welsh name.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I think the whole concept of nationality is silly TBH. From a technical point if you’re born there that’s your nationality. But identity is funny. I know people who aren’t black but have black heritage and are proud of it.

Like Elizabeth Warren and her native American heritage. Although that is also probably partly due to political angle as well.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I havent got a clue but I guess he doesnt pretend to be from another country. Why would you do that?

Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.

 

[The coventrian]

Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.

Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

 

[The coventrian]

Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.

Plastic dave is probably one of those myopic lot who call us racist if we dare hang our flag out on George's day.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Plastic dave is probably one of those myopic lot who call us racist if we dare hang our flag out on George's day.

.....whenever that is !

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent

 

[The coventrian]

Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent

Shes Scottish if shes born there. What else would she be? Italian?

 

[PVA]

Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

You don't have to have been born or lived somewhere to be of that nationality. You don't even have to have ever visited there.

 

[The coventrian]

No offense but with you liberal lot anything goes doesnt it? I mean you lot cant even decide if your Male or female

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Shes Scottish if shes born there. What else would she be? Italian?

English by blood?

 

[The coventrian]

You don't have to have been born or lived somewhere to be of that nationality. You don't even have to have ever visited there.

So tomorrow can I say I'm Norwegian? I've never visited there but hey ho. You lot our fucking mental

 

[The coventrian]

English by blood?

She was born in Scotland so shes Scottish. It really is that simple.

 

[PVA]

So tomorrow can I say I'm Norwegian? I've never visited there but hey ho. You lot our fucking mental

Are your parents Norwegian? If so then yes you can.

Are you on the windup?

 

[Grendel]

Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent

She’s British

 

[Grendel]

Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

He was probably conceived after a gallon of Guinness

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent

Shouldn't you be knee deep in school work ?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

.....whenever that is !

I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?

 

[Sick Boy]

I was born in England to Irish parents but spent half of my early childhood in Ireland and didn’t get a British passport until quite late.
I consider myself both but identify more as Irish, especially outside of England, maybe because of living there when younger.

 

[Sick Boy]

I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?

St Patrick’s day in the UK is utter shite.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?

Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?

This hits the nail on the head. You could have the biggest Patrick's Day you like but no alcohol allowed and no-one would turn up.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

I remember in Italia '90 most people I knew were supporting Ireland, not England, Cov has one of the biggest proportions of Irish of any city in the country, I think I saw it was estimated at 10% having Irish heritage.

I don't see the problem or why it matters.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.

Just inform them St George was a Turkish guy with dark skin.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

St Patrick’s day in the UK is utter shite.

I hate it- the music is just terrible for a start, I can't stand it. That day and Halloween- stay inside and pretend nobody is at home.

 

[Grendel]

Shouldn't you be knee deep in school work ?

Probably planning his holiday to Greece

 

[Grendel]

I hate it- the music is just terrible for a start, I can't stand it. That day and Halloween- stay inside and pretend nobody is at home.

But you don’t live here and have renounced your citizenship

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.

There is probably some historical & psychological reason behind it, anyway its probably a good thing as I couldn't handle a day of Morris Dancing & folk music just a few weeks after a full day of Irish music blasting out of everywhere.

 

[Sick Boy]

Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.

Yeah it should be a bank holiday really.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

If you were born in one country and have that on your birth certificate, move to another at a young age, pick up the language , culture, etc then you are more than likely to feel a sense of belonging and association to it. You're birth certificate may say different, but it's your life's experiences that determine what you actually feel about where you are from .
I do think if you have absolutely no recollection of your country of birth and grow up elsewhere it would be difficult to feel much sense of being of the nationality that might be on you're birth certificate.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Yeah it should be a bank holiday really.

Patricks Day here is a bank holiday, thats the thing I do like about it.

 

[Nick]

I was born in Walsgrave. See you all in the Devon.

 

[skybluetony176]

I went to Turkey once I think I'll identify as a turk from now on.

That’s you and Boris then who identify as Turkish. Well, audience depending when it comes to Boris. Although Boris did spend large parts of his childhood being raised in Belgium too. So we have an American, Belgian, Turkish PM who invented the character Boris as you know him some time during his university years. What’s your problem again with David identifying as Irish?

 

[PVA]

Another two weeks off for Boris incoming?

What with a few hours work PMQs yesterday it's been a busy week for him, so he is probably worn out and ready for a rest.

"But the spokesman did not go as far as saying that he was confident that Johnson would not be asked to self-isolate if Sharma tested positive. Asked if Johnson would comply if he were asked to self-isolate, the spokesman said: “We would follow the advice given by the medical experts.” "