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I think the whole concept of nationality is silly TBH. From a technical point if you’re born there that’s your nationality. But identity is funny. I know people who aren’t black but have black heritage and are proud of it, ditto Scots/Welsh/Irish/African/Indian.

Albert Einstein- "nationalism is the measles of humankind"
 
So hes American by birth then yes?
That twat david has Irish parentage but was born here,has never lived in Ireland but would rather identify as Irish for some freak reason. You think that's normal?

Most African-Americans have never been near Africa and their families haven't been to Africa in generations. Still identify as African-American rather than just American. We have a similar thing here with Indian/Pakistani communities that have never set foot in those countries but identify as such.

My auntie was born in Belfast but was brought here after two days. She considers herself English. Yet bizarrely she considers my other nan Welsh even though she was born here and couldn't speak any Welsh just because her Welsh parents gave her a Welsh name.
 
I think the whole concept of nationality is silly TBH. From a technical point if you’re born there that’s your nationality. But identity is funny. I know people who aren’t black but have black heritage and are proud of it.

Like Elizabeth Warren and her native American heritage. Although that is also probably partly due to political angle as well.
 
I havent got a clue but I guess he doesnt pretend to be from another country. Why would you do that?
Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.
 
Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.

Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.
 
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
 
Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
Shes Scottish if shes born there. What else would she be? Italian?
 
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

You don't have to have been born or lived somewhere to be of that nationality. You don't even have to have ever visited there.
 
No offense but with you liberal lot anything goes doesnt it? I mean you lot cant even decide if your Male or female
 
Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent

She’s British
 
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

He was probably conceived after a gallon of Guinness
 
Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
Shouldn't you be knee deep in school work ?
 
.....whenever that is !

I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
 
I was born in England to Irish parents but spent half of my early childhood in Ireland and didn’t get a British passport until quite late.
I consider myself both but identify more as Irish, especially outside of England, maybe because of living there when younger.
 
I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
St Patrick’s day in the UK is utter shite.
 
I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.
 
I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?

This hits the nail on the head. You could have the biggest Patrick's Day you like but no alcohol allowed and no-one would turn up.
 
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.

I remember in Italia '90 most people I knew were supporting Ireland, not England, Cov has one of the biggest proportions of Irish of any city in the country, I think I saw it was estimated at 10% having Irish heritage.

I don't see the problem or why it matters.
 
I hate it- the music is just terrible for a start, I can't stand it. That day and Halloween- stay inside and pretend nobody is at home.

But you don’t live here and have renounced your citizenship
 
Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.

There is probably some historical & psychological reason behind it, anyway its probably a good thing as I couldn't handle a day of Morris Dancing & folk music just a few weeks after a full day of Irish music blasting out of everywhere.
 

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