Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (28 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

820 infections not great
148 deaths really not great at all

137 deaths last Saturday

oh well

 

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[fernandopartridge]

820 infections not great
148 deaths really not great at all

137 deaths last Saturday

oh well

Seen some posts on twittee suggesting it's about 10 weeks for it to progress back up into big numbers after lockdown, that's what's happened in the American states where there has been a bigger second wave. Therefore October might see it here.

 

[clint van damme]

Bloody hell

 

[Skybluefaz]

Bloody hell

They are a different breed of entitled fucking idiots over there in the states. I heard an ex BBC reporter on the radio who now lives in Arizona telling the story about how a local politician was trying to encourage the use of face masks and the reply was 'only God has the right to tell me what to do' or some shit like that from some of the locals.

 

[clint van damme]

That bus driver in France who got attacked for telling passengers to put their masks on has had his life support machine switched off.

What an absolutely cowardly act.

those responsible may have did this for no discernible reason other than they don't like being told what to do but it certainly doesn't help the amount people buying into crackpot conspiracy theories about 5G and masks etc.
Either way utter scum.

 

[Ian1779]

Speaking of crack pot theories....




What’s worse is that hundreds of thousands will now believe it as fact.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Speaking of crack pot theories....




What’s worse is that hundreds of thousands will now believe it as fact.

It was the Tories that courted Huawei in the first place

 

[clint van damme]

It was the Tories that courted Huawei in the first place

And now Trump has told them to bin them.
To be fair he's probably right for once.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Speaking of crack pot theories....




What’s worse is that hundreds of thousands will now believe it as fact.

It's alright the free summer hat will protect them

 

[clint van damme]

Conspiracy theorist died Covid after trying to catch it to prove hoax | Metro News

Dr Jane Appleby, from Methodist Healthcare said: ‘Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said “I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”‘

Sweet lord.

 

[skybluetony176]

Conspiracy theorist died Covid after trying to catch it to prove hoax | Metro News

Dr Jane Appleby, from Methodist Healthcare said: ‘Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said “I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”‘

Sweet lord.

Was that a Covid death or just natural selection? On the death certificate it should just say too stupid to continue living.

 

[Grendel]

Nah

I know a few people who work in kitchens and they've been dead.

More fantasy

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That bus driver in France who got attacked for telling passengers to put their masks on has had his life support machine switched off.

What an absolutely cowardly act.

In Leamington just now I saw a dude with a torn face mask arguing with the bus driver for not letting him on. Just go home and get another

 

[shmmeee]

Off topic but politics related:

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Was that a Covid death or just natural selection? On the death certificate it should just say too stupid to continue living.

Darwin award nominee.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Reports this morning of no long lasting Covid-19 immunity if you have previously had the virus. We really need that vaccine. Record numbers if infections globally too. Have a great day.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not seen how Bolsonover is. Just fine probably

 

[clint van damme]

Not seen how Bolsonover is. Just fine probably

Oversaw record levels of destruction in the Amazon last year, the thought of breaking his record is probably keeping him going.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It wouldn't be good if Bolsonaro got it mildly. Don't wish harm on anybody, but it would only encourage his policy.

 

[Ian1779]

Off topic but politics related:

I read this on Saturday - it’s certainly interesting.

Although I do feel underwhelmed by Starmer, I’m not of the opinion that he should be ahead (20 points ahead seems to be the buzz line) at this stage. Government support is generally inflated in times of war and national crisis no matter how badly they handle it. There is also the Brexit support that is not going to move away until the end of the transition period and we have actually ‘left’ in more than name and even then it will hold for a while after even if it does go to shit.

I saw a couple of interviews on Sunday, and one of the reporters had an interesting line of questioning. 3 months in and we have yet to hear of a single policy from him and his team - but lots of ‘agreeing’ with the government. His only policy currently seems to be not being Corbyn. That might be viewed as sensible in some quarters but it will only hold water for so long. There is a huge opportunity for him to capture the public’s imagination with bold (don’t even need to say radical) economic policy tied in with green initiatives and a new vision for our country post Cov-ID.

 

[clint van damme]

I read this on Saturday - it’s certainly interesting.

Although I do feel underwhelmed by Starmer, I’m not of the opinion that he should be ahead (20 points ahead seems to be the buzz line) at this stage. Government support is generally inflated in times of war and national crisis no matter how badly they handle it. There is also the Brexit support that is not going to move away until the end of the transition period and we have actually ‘left’ in more than name and even then it will hold for a while after even if it does go to shit.

I saw a couple of interviews on Sunday, and one of the reporters had an interesting line of questioning. 3 months in and we have yet to hear of a single policy from him and his team - but lots of ‘agreeing’ with the government. His only policy currently seems to be not being Corbyn. That might be viewed as sensible in some quarters but it will only hold water for so long. There is a huge opportunity for him to capture the public’s imagination with bold (don’t even need to say radical) economic policy tied in with green initiatives and a new vision for our country post Cov-ID.

'Parts of UK could run out of water in around 20 years', new study warns - Energy Live News

here's something he could start with, but maybe he won't bother if he wants to not be like Corbyn.
Lets not bother fixing it, lets keep sending piles of money abroad in dividends instead.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not seen how Bolsonover is. Just fine probably

You mean the Brazilian or the town in Derbyshire?

 

[pipkin73]

We now have tourists here, next week we are supposed to be nearly full (i guess more hotels will open).
Let's see how the "R" rate goes on over here with so many of you here. By the end of this month,
almost every bar open again (the only ones not open are closed due to the centre refurbishment).
1 more month (of closure due to covid) and i think no way back for me as i've lent i think my maximum. I owe shit loads to friends and other businesses that have helped me.
I have been begging for you all to come over as without you all i was broke but i knew you were safe (WTO has now said we are the safest place in europe).

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We now have tourists here, next week we are supposed to be nearly full (i guess more hotels will open).
Let's see how the "R" rate goes on over here with so many of you here. By the end of this month,
almost every bar open again (the only ones not open are closed due to the centre refurbishment).
1 more month (of closure due to covid) and i think no way back for me as i've lent i think my maximum. I owe shit loads to friends and other businesses that have helped me.
I have been begging for you all to come over as without you all i was broke but i knew we were safe (WTO has now said we are the safest place in europe).

We are still trying to go to Crete in August but the possibility of being randomly tested while asymptomatic and therefore stuck for 2 weeks has me in 2 minds. What’s the system with Spain?

 

[pipkin73]

We are still trying to go to Crete in August but the possibility of being randomly tested while asymptomatic and therefore stuck for 2 weeks has me in 2 minds. What’s the system with Spain?

You can come here, we are not mainland Spain but will be grateful of your custom. The WTO have just said we are the safest place in europe.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You can come here, we are not mainland Spain but will be grateful of your custom. The WTO have just said we are the safest place in europe.

I was meaning more in terms of random testing/quarantine/self isolation measures

 

[shmmeee]

I read this on Saturday - it’s certainly interesting.

Although I do feel underwhelmed by Starmer, I’m not of the opinion that he should be ahead (20 points ahead seems to be the buzz line) at this stage. Government support is generally inflated in times of war and national crisis no matter how badly they handle it. There is also the Brexit support that is not going to move away until the end of the transition period and we have actually ‘left’ in more than name and even then it will hold for a while after even if it does go to shit.

I saw a couple of interviews on Sunday, and one of the reporters had an interesting line of questioning. 3 months in and we have yet to hear of a single policy from him and his team - but lots of ‘agreeing’ with the government. His only policy currently seems to be not being Corbyn. That might be viewed as sensible in some quarters but it will only hold water for so long. There is a huge opportunity for him to capture the public’s imagination with bold (don’t even need to say radical) economic policy tied in with green initiatives and a new vision for our country post Cov-ID.

Yeah weird times right now. I didn’t vote Starmer and have my concerns but the indicators are good. I’m not too bothered about policy four years out from a manifesto, just gives needless ammunition for no benefit.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yeah weird times right now. I didn’t vote Starmer and have my concerns but the indicators are good. I’m not too bothered about policy four years out from a manifesto, just gives needless ammunition for no benefit.

He did set out policy to get elected, of course. The Unions who backed him won't let him forget all of it, for sure.

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

Is there anywhere that shows how many have covid in each hospital? Hearing the Eliot is struggling with the amount of Covid patients.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I read this on Saturday - it’s certainly interesting.

Although I do feel underwhelmed by Starmer, I’m not of the opinion that he should be ahead (20 points ahead seems to be the buzz line) at this stage. Government support is generally inflated in times of war and national crisis no matter how badly they handle it. There is also the Brexit support that is not going to move away until the end of the transition period and we have actually ‘left’ in more than name and even then it will hold for a while after even if it does go to shit.

I saw a couple of interviews on Sunday, and one of the reporters had an interesting line of questioning. 3 months in and we have yet to hear of a single policy from him and his team - but lots of ‘agreeing’ with the government. His only policy currently seems to be not being Corbyn. That might be viewed as sensible in some quarters but it will only hold water for so long. There is a huge opportunity for him to capture the public’s imagination with bold (don’t even need to say radical) economic policy tied in with green initiatives and a new vision for our country post Cov-ID.

Although I don't see policy getting him elected I agree that using the pandemic as a means to at least outline a new way of moving forward would be a positive thing. Undoubtedly you'd get the "we're in a crisis - now isn't the time to be talking about these things. Priorities!" from certain areas but now is the time to highlight how things could be different. Do it when things have calmed down and some sense of 'normal' has returned and it's too late. People will say it's hindsight.

I've no problem with him keeping his powder dry for the time being on hammering Johnson et al for their actions on Covid and their despicable attempts to blame everyone but themselves. With his legal prowess I'm willing to trust him on when to know to order the offensive. Maybe I wouldn't mind a bit of criticism of the policy right now to at least indicate their dissatisfaction and lull the Tories into a false sense of security that the issue has past but I prefer the patient approach than just giving a few days of flak before everything moves on to the next fuck up and gets forgotten. Use it when it an be effective in getting you power. That isn't now.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Is there anywhere that shows how many have covid in each hospital? Hearing the Eliot is struggling with the amount of Covid patients.

Told by sister who works there that only 1 Covid patient at uhcw

 

[clint van damme]

Told by sister who works there that only 1 Covid patient at uhcw

that's good news. Especially as I believe they were shipping people in from outside of Coventry at one point.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If they were 'shipping people in' then it suggests we had the spare capacity even then. We definitely had a lower infection rate per head than much of the surrounding region, both WM and Warks.

 

[skybluetony176]

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Forgive me if I've misinterpreted, the current govt position seems to be, of course you should wear a mask inside and in shops, but we're not going to mandate it, we're going to leave you to decide.

Is that right?

If so, that's as bonkers as the recommending people not to go in pubs, but not closing them!