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shmmeee

shmmeee

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Each class stays in the same room all day with teachers moving between them. I am not allowed to go beyond a designated area at the front of the room and if I want to hand anything out it has to be done from the front going back. Practicals can only be done sparingly as the lab must be deep cleaned after use which in effect means that practicals are off the cards for the most part. Homework is being set online to minimise contact with students books and work.

Lunch and break are at staggered times so that students and teachers can have their packed lunches in designated areas. Additional duties are in place for teachers to make sure year groups remain in their bubbles. If a student presents Covid symptoms in a lesson they have to go to reception immediately and if students are absent due to Covid I have to record myself on a headset.

In essence it is minimal disruption for the kids and maximum for the staff.
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Jesus, I wouldn’t fancy that.
 
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Saddlebrains said:
I would agree with that. But i would go further and say we do that for everything. Lock it down or crack on.I will get abuse for that im sure
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Not far away from now people will start getting colds and the flu, which in schools spread pretty quickly. In likelihood cold or flu probably causes more harm on average to a child than Covid does. We never used to insist on such measures for the viruses that have been with us for many years and which present clear and obvious symptoms in most who catch them, including norovirus. Now a disease arrives where the vast majority of cases present with no symptoms at all and we are insisting on all types of control measures. Either scrap them all or stay in full and proper lockdown.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Is there any research on how cold/flu with coronavirus affects people? Or those that have had and recovered from coronavirus?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Is there any research on how cold/flu with coronavirus affects people? Or those that have had and recovered from coronavirus?
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Those who have been hospitalised with Covid have tended to take longer times to recover their lung capacity than pneumonia patients I think. If you caught both at the same time I have no idea what would happen.
 
Saddlebrains

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not far away from now people will start getting colds and the flu, which in schools spread pretty quickly. In likelihood cold or flu probably causes more harm on average to a child than Covid does. We never used to insist on such measures for the viruses that have been with us for many years and which present clear and obvious symptoms in most who catch them, including norovirus. Now a disease arrives where the vast majority of cases present with no symptoms at all and we are insisting on all types of control measures. Either scrap them all or stay in full and proper lockdown.
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In 884 pages, this is probably the best post out the lot 💪
 
fernandopartridge

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I think there is some theory that previous exposure to cold (coronavirus) can help the T cell response to this one. There was speculation that people with young children had a degree of immunity because they're more exposed to colds etc via their children.
 
larry_david

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Just sat in a pizza express the size of my kitchen with about 15 other strangers. No masks. How is that fine but walking in morrisons 930pm with no fucker in but masks are mandatory. Bout time we snapped out of this bollocks eh
 
Sky Blue Pete

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larry_david said:
Just sat in a pizza express the size of my kitchen with about 15 other strangers. No masks. How is that fine but walking in morrisons 930pm with no fucker in but masks are mandatory. Bout time we snapped out of this bollocks eh
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You mean allow the virus free reign or what?
 
David O'Day

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larry_david said:
I mean one rule for one indoor place one for another. You know they'll buckle and get masks in place for offices next
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So your argument is because you were in an unsafe environment all environments should be unsafe.
 
larry_david

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I dunno what my argument is tbh. Just wonder why it's mandatory in one place but not when sitting down still for 2 hours having food served. Seems odd no?
 
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larry_david said:
I dunno what my argument is tbh. Just wonder why it's mandatory in one place but not when sitting down still for 2 hours having food served. Seems odd no?
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See, I get the argument for food as you have to eat, can't do that through a mask. A takeaway is another matter. Didn't for the life of me get why it was ok in a library, but not a shop... and offices I don't know as the medical advice is muddied - certainly seems sensible not to encourage people in unnecessarily, and once there masks probably wouldn't do any harm.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Sky Blue Pete said:
You mean allow the virus free reign or what?
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It was allowed free reign countless times when huge numbers of people crammed themselves in to outdoor spaces. It will also be allowed free reign when schools go back and it seems that the wearing of a piece of cloth over your face supersedes everything else. Then ask why it is that such precautions are needed and it’s because so many could carry the virus without symptoms as opposed to the viruses that invariably always cause symptoms.

It may sound churlish but if you are going to reopen something then do it fully or not at all. If it’s going to be with us for years then I’m sorry but people are going to catch it, a small percentage will need to go to hospital and a smaller percentage might die. That is how it has long been with the other diseases that have been in our midst for much longer and yet we never insisted on such regulation. I apologise for ranting but in a few months when other diseases arrive that show symptoms it could send society potty because of a virus that typically doesn’t.
 
Saddlebrains

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Its frustrating that the media are still looking at scaremongering.

Always browse sky news when i wake up, and today im met with 'second wave will hit france in November'.

Oh it WILL will it? Wheres the proof?

Also 'Is the 2 metre rule outdated' medical evidence shows 8 metres.

Fuck me if everyone stayed 8 metres apart no one would ever do anything.

Thats on top of how the headlines of amount of deaths shifted to amount of cases to continue the doom mongering. Its all very sad
 
Sky Blue Pete

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It was allowed free reign countless times when huge numbers of people crammed themselves in to outdoor spaces. It will also be allowed free reign when schools go back and it seems that the wearing of a piece of cloth over your face supersedes everything else. Then ask why it is that such precautions are needed and it’s because so many could carry the virus without symptoms as opposed to the viruses that invariably always cause symptoms.

It may sound churlish but if you are going to reopen something then do it fully or not at all. If it’s going to be with us for years then I’m sorry but people are going to catch it, a small percentage will need to go to hospital and a smaller percentage might die. That is how it has long been with the other diseases that have been in our midst for much longer and yet we never insisted on such regulation. I apologise for ranting but in a few months when other diseases arrive that show symptoms it could send society potty because of a virus that typically doesn’t.
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Oh that’s no rant and I think you are correct about managing the risk and consistent mask and social distancing and washing hands and not touching your face will be the norm.
 
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Oh that’s no rant and I think you are correct about managing the risk and consistent mask and social distancing and washing hands and not touching your face will be the norm.
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In a school these measures are close to unenforceable when a teacher isn’t around and even if they are behaviour will still be too casual. If you are going to let everybody back then drop the pretence of reducing transmission. What are we going to do, for the rest of time insist that a teacher can’t go around the classroom to help individuals? Make a waiter in a restaurant always put the food on a tray away from the table? We really risk losing all kind of rationality in day to day life because of this.
 
ajsccfc

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Encouraging news about Warwick is that when we go back in they're insisting on face coverings regardless of general national advice, an on-campus testing centre with quick turnaround and local tracing system
 
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ajsccfc said:
Encouraging news about Warwick is that when we go back in they're insisting on face coverings regardless of general national advice, an on-campus testing centre with quick turnaround and local tracing system
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I hope that ends up the university norm
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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ajsccfc said:
Encouraging news about Warwick is that when we go back in they're insisting on face coverings regardless of general national advice, an on-campus testing centre with quick turnaround and local tracing system
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Will those with recent negative tests still have to wear masks?
 
clint van damme

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Saddlebrains said:
Its frustrating that the media are still looking at scaremongering.

Always browse sky news when i wake up, and today im met with 'second wave will hit france in November'.

Oh it WILL will it? Wheres the proof?

Also 'Is the 2 metre rule outdated' medical evidence shows 8 metres.

Fuck me if everyone stayed 8 metres apart no one would ever do anything.

Thats on top of how the headlines of amount of deaths shifted to amount of cases to continue the doom mongering. Its all very sad
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the 8 metre thing was reported in the BMJ and is the finding of a university study. It's hardly scaremongering to report it, there'd be something wrong if they didn't.
 
David O'Day

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larry_david said:
I dunno what my argument is tbh. Just wonder why it's mandatory in one place but not when sitting down still for 2 hours having food served. Seems odd no?
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depends on how far apart the tables were and what mitigating acts the venue took. You should still be 2m apart unless the venue has taken action to mitigate the risks i.e. screens and then you can be up to 1m apart.

The issue with supermarkets is people don't stay social distanced, they will cut within the 2m regulary and that is why they think you would need a mask in there. Remember the mask isn't to stop you getting the virus it's stop you unknowingly passing it on.
 
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