Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

The Ricoh centre looks half empty whenever I drive past it

Same at Moat Street. It’s exactly what people have been complaining about for days. There’s sites sat virtually idle while people are sent to test sites miles away and arrive to find massive queues.

Meanwhile the government are still releasing daily figures saying we have huge amounts of unused capacity for testing.

 

---

[CCFCSteve]

The issue isn't a lack of capacity to take the tests, it's a lack of lab capacity to process them. I suspect it's tied up in Cock and co's insistence on using certain private labs.

Cock and Co

Yeah, it’s lab capacity not the testing sites. To be fair we should be using more private labs to process (why not if public sector hasn’t got capacity), PHE originally wanted to keep all the testing to themselves, hence the earlier shambles. How we haven’t got capacity by now is poor

 

[chiefdave]

Yeah, it’s lab capacity not the testing sites. To be fair we should be using more private labs to process (why not if public sector hasn’t got capacity), PHE originally wanted to keep all the testing to themselves, hence the earlier shambles. How we haven’t got capacity by now is poor

Had a closer look at the daily testing capacity figures that are published. Seems that in mid June they added in over 100K a day capacity for antibody tests which they've rolled into the total testing capacity figure. Bit misleading IMO but explains why every day it shows huge amounts of unused capacity yet people can't get a test.

Number of swab tests done every day has been steadily rising but there's not really been any sudden spikes, yet for a while now the processing capacity for that type of test has remained pretty much static. How did nobody spot this problem coming down the line?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Had a closer look at the daily testing capacity figures that are published. Seems that in mid June they added in over 100K a day capacity for antibody tests which they've rolled into the total testing capacity figure. Bit misleading IMO but explains why every day it shows huge amounts of unused capacity yet people can't get a test.

Number of swab tests done every day has been steadily rising but there's not really been any sudden spikes, yet for a while now the processing capacity for that type of test has remained pretty much static. How did nobody spot this problem coming down the line?

Because everything is being done in reaction to events rather than pre-empting them

 

[Saddlebrains]

It's fucking scandalous how badly they've fucked this up.

Going right off again

 

[Evo1883]

Solihull in lockdown from Tuesday, not long till I can't see my old man again

 

[Saddlebrains]

Won't be long before we all are.

Im pissed off, i sat here getting pelters because i tried to believe the articles on things improving in other countries and the supposed good news.

Seriously down about this. Long horrible winter on the horizon

 

[Evo1883]

Won't be long before we all are.

Im pissed off, i sat here getting pelters because i tried to believe the articles on things improving in other countries and the supposed good news.

Seriously down about this. Long horrible winter on the horizon

Unless they shut schools etc too, places where people travel from all over to get to... Then it's all a load of shit that serves no purpose... They need to make it make sense

 

[clint van damme]

Won't be long before we all are.

Im pissed off, i sat here getting pelters because i tried to believe the articles on things improving in other countries and the supposed good news.

Seriously down about this. Long horrible winter on the horizon

Keep your chin up mate. At least it's not as strict as the lockdown earlier in the year.

 

[robbiekeane]

So, what’s the general feeling around the current situation in the UK and outlook over the next few months?

Selfishly I’ve not been able to come back to see family all year and am really hoping I can come back for a few weeks at Christmas. Trying to get a feeling for how realistic that is

 

[fernandopartridge]

I'm pretty sure most of the figures are being massaged, people are not being admitted to hospital who should be. That's why the deaths at home is way in excess of normal and has been every week since March, yet they're not Covid deaths because these people are not tested.

Given the excess rates back in March and April, pretty difficult to argue it's due to untreated conditions of another sort.

	Home
Week no	All deaths	COVID-19 deaths	All deaths five-year average	Excess deaths
Week 11	2,725​	0​	2,580​	145​
Week 12	2,709​	1​	2,423​	286​
Week 13	2,786​	15​	2,359​	427​
Week 14	3,865​	120​	2,364​	1,501​
Week 15	4,117​	330​	2,417​	1,700​
Week 16	4,570​	416​	2,424​	2,146​
Week 17	4,834​	423​	2,448​	2,386​
Week 18	4,268​	254​	2,306​	1,962​
Week 19	3,195​	156​	2,247​	948​
Week 20	3,781​	145​	2,439​	1,342​
Week 21	3,529​	109​	2,421​	1,108​
Week 22	2,779​	71​	1,911​	868​
Week 23	3,418​	77​	2,426​	992​
Week 24	3,203​	51​	2,280​	923​
Week 25	3,069​	52​	2,242​	827​
Week 26	3,042​	29​	2,297​	745​
Week 27	3,019​	34​	2,264​	755​
Week 28	2,960​	35​	2,254​	706​
Week 29	2,978​	29​	2,212​	766​
Week 30	2,966​	24​	2,239​	727​
Week 31	2,915​	14​	2,239​	676​
Week 32	2,957​	13​	2,255​	702​
Week 33	3,010​	12​	2,198​	812​
Week 34	3,056​	13​	2,231​	825​
Week 35	2,962​	9​	2,022​	940​

 

[clint van damme]

So, what’s the general feeling around the current situation in the UK and outlook over the next few months?

Selfishly I’ve not been able to come back to see family all year and am really hoping I can come back for a few weeks at Christmas. Trying to get a feeling for how realistic that is

The situation will change numerous times between now and Christmas so it's hard to say where we'll be then.

All I would say is if you book flights make sure your insurance is watertight

 

[wingy]

So, what’s the general feeling around the current situation in the UK and outlook over the next few months?

Selfishly I’ve not been able to come back to see family all year and am really hoping I can come back for a few weeks at Christmas. Trying to get a feeling for how realistic that is

If that new testing system gets the go ahead you should be able to transit.
What the actual rules on the ground are like at that point is open to debate .
Or when you return to the states.

 

[fernandopartridge]

So, what’s the general feeling around the current situation in the UK and outlook over the next few months?

Selfishly I’ve not been able to come back to see family all year and am really hoping I can come back for a few weeks at Christmas. Trying to get a feeling for how realistic that is

By December we might be over the next peak. At the minute though I wouldn't get your hopes up.

 

[fernandopartridge]

If that new testing system gets the go ahead you should be able to transit.
What the actual rules on the ground are like at that point is open to debate .
Or when you return to the states.

The new testing system isn't happening mate, it is pie in the sky nonsense. The accountancy firm Deloitte will push it as being possible for as long as the government is willing to pay them.

Deloitte gets another huge COVID contract – for ‘crazy’ plan to test millions each day

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Birmingham lockdown rules tightened as Covid cases rise

Guidance that people cannot socialise outside of their households will be made law

www.theguardian.com

 

[Evo1883]

Basically you can't see your family, but you can get round it by taking them on a bender and getting wrecked please somebody make it make sense

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Look at Spain and France that’s what’s coming. Not that we looked before

 

[Grendel]

Look at Spain and France that’s what’s coming. Not that we looked before

What restrictions are they applying?

 

[Evo1883]

French footy last night, seemingly no spacing needed... Close a stand and bunch together

 

[wingy]

Basically you can't see your family, but you can get round it by taking them on a bender and getting wrecked please somebody make it make sense

Money?
If it's in the home it can't possibly be happening in other setting's?
Even though someone has had to catch it in the other settings to bring it home in the first place.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What restrictions are they applying?

Seemingly not much. Was just saying we know what happens next

more infections
Spread into more vulnerable members of our community
More hospital admissions
More deaths

 

[Deleted member 4439]

View attachment 16886 French footy last night, seemingly no spacing needed... Close a stand and bunch together

Looks like the opposition's taking no chances though...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Seemingly not much. Was just saying we know what happens next

more infections
Spread into more vulnerable members of our community
More hospital admissions
More deaths

First confirmed case here today. Didn’t take much more than a week

 

[robbiekeane]

If that new testing system gets the go ahead you should be able to transit.
What the actual rules on the ground are like at that point is open to debate .
Or when you return to the states.

Thank you, I’ll look into that. Yeh - I guess being a UK citizen they will let me into the country whatever the case, and I’m happy to quarantine afterwards (or might just pay privately for a rapid covid test on landing to put family at ease). I’ve accepted getting back to the US is going to be the issue....but worst case scenario I spend 14 days in Mexico before hand. It’s ridiculous that the entry restrictions are a political play and reciprocal instead of based on risk.

The situation will change numerous times between now and Christmas so it's hard to say where we'll be then.

All I would say is if you book flights make sure your insurance is watertight

By December we might be over the next peak. At the minute though I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Thanks guys, sounds shit tbh

 

[Sbarcher]

Solihull in lockdown from Tuesday, not long till I can't see my old man again

I call mine my little fella!

 

[wingy]

The new testing system isn't happening mate, it is pie in the sky nonsense. The accountancy firm Deloitte will push it as being possible for as long as the government is willing to pay them.

Deloitte gets another huge COVID contract – for ‘crazy’ plan to test millions each day

Different one fp .
iAbra.
Automated instant read out from saliva sample using swab ,then AI reading wavelengths of spike proteins or the like
Not proven yet but claiming 96-99.5% efficacy.

 

[David O'Day]

Different one fp .
iAbra.
Automated instant read out from saliva sample using swab ,then AI reading wavelengths of spike proteins or the like
Not proven yet but claiming 96-99.5% efficacy.

96% will lead up up to 400k false results at day if there were 10m tests a day.


Forget about it

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Keep your chin up mate. At least it's not as strict as the lockdown earlier in the year.

And there's the problem. It's now all about the economy . We never eradicated it before when we went into total lockdown , though it was contained and reduced substantially.
Now we're just plugging holes in a leaking bath and won't be able to keep up. Soon we'll have umpteen major cities shutting down simultaneously and as they come out of lockdown even more will be going into lockdown.
We've got an almost vertical upward line on the graph of new infections spiralling out of control. Within 3 weeks we'll be well past the peak of the spring and heading for 10,000. No one's got a grip on this. We need another total lockdown but it's never going to happen for economic reasons.
Until a vaccine in readily available this will go on and on forever.

 

[David O'Day]

If young children are safe and are not "vectors of transmission" then what the hell is Gove wibbling about?

Coronavirus: Children will stay part of rule of six, says Gove

The new restrictions on gatherings have public support, the Cabinet Office minister insists.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Skybluefaz]

If young children are safe and are not "vectors of transmission" then what the hell is Gove wibbling about?

Coronavirus: Children will stay part of rule of six, says Gove

The new restrictions on gatherings have public support, the Cabinet Office minister insists.

www.bbc.co.uk

Scotland have put it together better than we have. Just a slight tweak but makes much more sense

 

[skybluetony176]

Scotland have put it together better than we have. Just a slight tweak but makes much more sense

The amount of people I know who under normal circumstances wouldn’t have a good word to say about Sturgeon but are full of praise for her recently is unbelievable. Ex Boris fan boys everyone of them.

 

[LastGarrison]

Town was busy last night (and yes I was one of them) but what do we do? With no guarantee of a vaccine we can’t stay in this state of hiatus for ever so do we just have to learn to live alongside it?

 

[Skybluefaz]

Town was busy last night (and yes I was one of them) but what do we do? With no guarantee of a vaccine we can’t stay in this state of hiatus for ever so do we just have to learn to live alongside it?

I really don't feel like going out anymore. I'll do the minimum birthdays/weddings/barmitzvahs of which I don't think there are many planned. We don't half need the vaccine though cos I can't be the only one thinking like that.

 

[shmmeee]

What a fucking shambles the testing was yesterday. My ex and daughter got tested this morning, though that might be because she’s a teacher and it prioritises her.

All day yesterday both of us trying to get a test, my missus (NHS staff) and my ex (teaching) not in work because my daughter had a cough and temp and reported loss of taste. We tried all combinations of people and locations including old postcodes, best we got was pretending to be in Leicester and being told to go to Aberdeen apparently.

She drove down the the Ricoh anyway, was met by a nurse and an empty testing centre only to be told she couldn’t be tested without a booking, said there’s no bookings and was told “yeah the systems playing up”.

Luckily got a test for this morning late last night and now both been tested, so off work/school until results are back. But what a palava.

Her biggest worry is having to isolate for two weeks and hand her class over just as she’s embedding routines and everything. But equally if it’s negative we’re going to have this every time one of the girls has a cold.

Testing is so vital to get some kind of normality and testing for key workers especially. Ridiculous we can’t manage it.