Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
But then their mates wouldn't get the contracts and money. So no, it's a stupid idea
There's an interesting article about our testing issues on Bloomberg. Of course mentions that we declared we would have a world beating system and are now behind everyone else. From what the article says the issue is that everything has been contracted out to private contractors who have then tried to do everything on the cheap.
Testing centres here employing staff to just dish out tests you have to do yourself which could be leading to a large number of incorrect results as people don't know how to properly administer the test. Apparently in other countries you get given the test by someone who knows what they are doing to ensure it is correct.
Seems a lot of the staff employed to man the labs setup by the private contractors were medical students who had time on their hands as universities were closed. Sure you can all work out what's happened now that the students are going back to uni. Which has left the private contractors handing the tests over to the NHS to process but they don't have the capacity so there's a growing backlog.
Would we not have been better off giving funding to local public health teams to administer testing locally and funding to the NHS to increase their lab capacity?
Fed up of this now, worried about losing my job
It’s making me depressedStaying safe is all that matters
Conveniently.3500 again. Don’t know where there coming from as you can’t get a test for love nor money
Sorry to hear that DomFed up of this now, worried about losing my job
It’s horrible isn’t it, it’s like it’s never going to endSorry to hear that Dom
Not trying to point score here, but you should be able to feel safe in terms of your health and also your job security. One should not be compromised for the other.It’s making me depressed
Thanks mate just bills and that if I lose my job I’m fuckedNot trying to point score here, but you should be able to feel safe in terms of your health and also your job security. One should not be compromised for the other.
I hope it all is OK for you.
It'll end eventually mate, even if we do nothing. Hopefully either a vaccine or improvements in treatment can come through before the end of the year. Everyone is concentrating on a vaccine but if we get treatment to a point where its a couple of weeks off work and popping a few pills we're in business.It’s horrible isn’t it, it’s like it’s never going to end
I think most people are feeling like that. I know I am. You’re not alone.It’s horrible isn’t it, it’s like it’s never going to end
That rubbish. Let’s hope someone sees sense and extends the furlough scheme if that will give you more security job wise.Thanks mate just bills and that if I lose my job I’m fucked
Not trying to point score here, but you should be able to feel safe in terms of your health and also your job security. One should not be compromised for the other.
I hope it all is OK for you.
Really?99% of people of working age as a conservative estimate haven’t been compromised by this regarding health have they?
That rubbish. Let’s hope someone sees sense and extends the furlough scheme if that will give you more security job wise.
Really?
With the furlough ending and because I work in events fuck knows what will happen
It’s making me depressed
Everything is shit at the momentKeep your chin up Dom. You'll get through it.
Everything is shit at the moment
According to NW being furloughed is causing huge stress to people on it as they believe that’s one step from redundancy - do you think prolonging the agony is a good idea?
Why don’t you cut out the foreplay and just tell them to eat cake....
What point are you actually trying to make?So if people shouldn’t have to worry about health or job security I assume we should close every hospital as hospital workers are more at risk of Covid then any other sector? Also I assume all shops and supermarkets should close? Germany has part time furlough and the vast majority furloughed have worked during the pandemic. Are they risking the lives of their people?
What point are you actually trying to make?
People have a risk to their livelihood due to things completely out of their control, is it so beyond the state to look after them?
Surely if we can reduce the chance of transmission by allowing people to stay at home (or work from home if viable) in turn it should reduce the risk to those ‘key workers’ that are in places of work.No Im saying should we protect everyone or are some like nurses supermarket assistants required so get on with it and accountants and office workers can stay at home and just get State aid and stay safe - what a charming society
It’s horrible isn’t it, it’s like it’s never going to end
I think that's the crux of the issue and is why targeted support is necessary. Jobs that cannot be done from home but should conceivably still exist when things are 'normal' again e.g. in hospitality, tourism and leisure should be kept on furlough. Office workers should have furlough removed, since if they are not useful enough now to be working, then they almost certainly won't be useful in future when there is a transition period between the kinds of services that existed before the pandemic and the kind of vacancies made available afterwards.No Im saying should we protect everyone or are some like nurses supermarket assistants required so get on with it and accountants and office workers can stay at home and just get State aid and stay safe - what a charming society
They managed to do all teaching online here from March to June - some schools have gone back but the older pupils return on Monday with protocols in place, including desks being 1 metre apart.Not sure where in my post I said that but if its a straight choice between putting education on hold for a few months, or even a year, or causing an increase in virus circulation that could lead to thousands of deaths I think you have to give it serious consideration.
Of course a competent government would have already run through the scenarios and have worked out a plan to resolve the glaringly obvious issues in schools that were being flagged up before kids went back.
Even relatively simple things like do we have a nationwide remote learning system ready to go if needed? Last time round the excuse was nobody was expecting this and therefore nothing was prepared but that was months ago so surely something in place now.
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