Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Infection control outside of hospitals - NHS COVID-19 tracing app with Dr David Bonsall

Dr David Bonsall, Senior Researcher, Oxford University's Nuffield Department of Medicine. Talk highlights include how the contact tracing app would work along with it's advantages, disadvantages and ethical considerations.

player.rcplondon.ac.uk

He’s more of an expert than you and he says it will make a difference. I’m following him not uou

 

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[clint van damme]

Why are they calling it an NHS app when it can’t accept test data from the NHS?

to deflect from the useless twats the tories gave the contract to.

 

[skybluetony176]

He’s more of an expert than you and he says it will make a difference. I’m following him not uou

I’ve downloaded it and will be using it wherever I can. My only real concern was my own data protection but the way the app works the people who will have your information already (ie Apple etc) from downloading the app already have it so there’s no further risk.

 

[clint van damme]

HAHA! The masked singer was part of the Covid conspiracy!!

 

[David O'Day]

He’s more of an expert than you and he says it will make a difference. I’m following him not uou

WTF are you talking about? No one has said it won't help, please are rightly saying that it should not be set up so it can't not accept around a 3rd of the daily test results.

What part of that are you not getting?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

HAHA! The masked singer was part of the Covid conspiracy!!

Would like to know who 'they' are-considering her own party is in power?

 

[David O'Day]

Would like to know who 'they' are-considering her own party is in power?

DeAnna is particulary great. She ran against Nancy Pelosi this year and got about 1,8% of the vote

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

DeAnna is particulary great. She ran against Nancy Pelosi this year and got about 1,8% of the vote

Alex Jones has been on recently saying that RBG died as part of a 'blood sacrifice' and was being sustained by 'satanic energy'. No point trying to persuade these people, just outnumber them at the polls

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not sure about this amendment to give parliament more say on coronavirus measures. Ultimately, government has access to the scientific advice, and quick decisions are needed. Plus, Johnson's moderate compared to some of the loons in his party!

I understand the need for democratic scrutiny, but not to castrate givernment's ability to act.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not sure about this amendment to give parliament more say on coronavirus measures. Ultimately, government has access to the scientific advice, and quick decisions are needed. Plus, Johnson's moderate compared to some of the loons in his party!

How about they let those with some actual scientific credentials take Johnson's place in some of these decisions? Assuming any exist.

 

[Grendel]

How about they let those with some actual scientific credentials take Johnson's place in some of these decisions? Assuming any exist.

If only Thatcher was still here and in charge

 

[Deleted member 5849]

If only Thatcher was still here and in charge

Late to the party, I've already said that a few times

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If only Thatcher was still here and in charge

I would rather her than Johnson but think she'd have delighted in making millions unemployed

 

[Grendel]

Late to the party, I've already said that a few times

Don’t think you’d like what I suspect she’d do other than the public sacking and humiliation of Matt Hancock

 

[Grendel]

I would rather her than Johnson but think she'd have delighted in making millions unemployed

She would have done exactly the opposite

 

[David O'Day]

Why would you want a Chemist to be in charge?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Don’t think you’d like what I suspect she’d do other than the public sacking and humiliation of Matt Hancock

What I would be convinced, however, is that she'd listen to advice, take it in, and do what she thought was right.

Which is more, on each count, than I think of the current incumbent!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why would you want a Chemist to be in charge?

I'm insulted

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

By that logic it may have been the perfect place to let it rip entirety on campus , vulnerable poeple aside , maybe a couple of weeks before term .
Something that could have been considered for schools as well . through the summer .

Freshers week but adding Covid to the usual chlamydia and gonorrhea

 

[David O'Day]

I'm insulted

I always knew you were really the ghost of Maggie Thatcher

But in all seriousness we do need to start to let the epidemiologists make the decisions.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

This is at least positive.

Coronavirus: UK pledges £500m to global vaccine-sharing scheme

The PM will call on world leaders to set aside differences as he sets out plans to prevent future pandemics.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do wish the world had bought as a block though, rather than it being a competitive market.

Why the fuck would they want that? No money to be made without competition and the loudest voices internationally have big links to private business.

Should be WHO given the funds, buys the lot and gets it distributed.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No, there isn’t that feature. I guess because any idiot can press a button to say they have it even if they don’t and that would corrupt the data and make the app worthless. Equally though if you can’t log all test results from all testers it has the same effect. Yet again a lack of joined up thinking from the government. A shame really because the app is really simple to use and should be a simple effective tool in combatting Covid and getting closer to the old norm from the new norm.

One thing you can be sure of. If it works well they'll be quick to highlight and thank the private partners involved in it. Fail and it'll just be 'the NHS'

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

that's Christmas fucked

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Expecting a bout of bird flu now so all turkeys have to be culled.

Unfortunately this won't extend to the turkeys in govt.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I always knew you were really the ghost of Maggie Thatcher

But in all seriousness we do need to start to let the epidemiologists make the decisions.

I'd prefer virologists but right now a chemist would be a significant upgrade on a crack team of PPE graduates

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Why would you want a Chemist to be in charge?

To be fair a chemist would be a lot more use in this situation than a 3rd rate 'journalist'

 

[chiefdave]

that's Christmas fucked

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Do they think if they keep saying things they will magically happen? 3 millions tests a day and a vaccine that doesn't currently exist being rolled out before Xmas seems pure fantasy.

The back up plan is everyone self isolates for 2 weeks before Xmas, so what about people that need to go to work?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I'd prefer virologists but right now a chemist would be a significant upgrade on a crack team of PPE graduates

Unless you change the type of PPE.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I'd prefer virologists but right now a chemist would be a significant upgrade on a crack team of PPE graduates

tbf, a competent PPE graduaate can take advice from experts, and listen to it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

tbf, a competent PPE graduaate can take advice from experts, and listen to it.

They can but have no scientific background in what is fundamentally a scientific problem. Mind you I would also take a competent PPE grad over the ones we've got

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

WTF are you talking about? No one has said it won't help, please are rightly saying that it should not be set up so it can't not accept around a 3rd of the daily test results.

What part of that are you not getting?

I’m getting it all completely. You are intelligent others aren’t and by saying it’s not able to upload this and that others won’t try and it won’t be as effective.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

5 Coronavirus Fibs You Were Told This Week

False positives, consistency and a government that seems to think no one can use the internet to look at things that happened in the recent past.

m.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Trump video is comedy gold

 

[CCFCSteve]

Didn’t quite believe this when I was sent it yesterday but seeing as the WHO are suggesting overall fatality rate is between 0.5 and 1, would makes sense (will leave to the science bods to comment)



ps guessing this will probably be why it will be tricky to get students to tow the lockdown line

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Didn’t quite believe this when I was sent it yesterday but seeing as the WHO are suggesting overall fatality rate is between 0.5 and 1, would makes sense (will leave to the science bods to comment)



ps guessing this will probably be why it will be tricky to get students to tow the lockdown line

Without knowing the true number of cases it is hard to put a definitive % on fatality. The most credible study I have seen estimates about 0.7% factoring in asymptomatic cases but it can again only be an estimate when so many are asymptomatic. Though that fact in itself should be telling us something.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Didn’t quite believe this when I was sent it yesterday but seeing as the WHO are suggesting overall fatality rate is between 0.5 and 1, would makes sense (will leave to the science bods to comment)



ps guessing this will probably be why it will be tricky to get students to tow the lockdown line

He seems like a nice guy- retweeting Toby Young, Allison Pearson & all excited about Andrew Neil’s new ‘fox’ style news channel

 

[fernandopartridge]

I don't understand why something wasn't built on to the existing NHS app rather than reinventing the wheel