Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Another point about let her rip type strategies: it’s not just about deaths, it’s about all that comes with deaths: overloaded admin services, bodies piling up unable to be buried, hospitals overrun and unable to cope with normal service. The politicial impact alone of mass graves or body piles in the U.K. would mean no government that has any self preservation instincts would allow that to happen.

This never seems to be explained when people say just get on with it and open everything up. Even if you look at the numbers suggested in Steve's post (#32,717) thats huge numbers of sick and dead, and those numbers were based on restrictions being in place. Is there an acceptable deaths figure? What happens when the NHS becomes overwhelmed?

 

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[chiefdave]

Anyone heard anything about Halloween? Daughters favourite holiday and she was asking today if it’ll be “cancelled”. Genuinely didn’t know what to tell her.

They're doing this by me, seems to be quite a lot of places doing something similar.

The Big Neighbourhood Pumpkin Trail -

Join in with the biggest pumpkin trail, display a pumpkin in your window and let's create a massive pumpkin trail for children to safely enjoy this Halloween. Free printable templates and Halloween colouring sheets.

www.artventurers.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I get it- haven’t seen family for almost a year, there’s job uncertainty everywhere, just heard there’s 64 cases at a school about 3 miles away, everyone Ian tense and stressed- then add in massive mismanagement & stupidly vague rules on what to do. It’s absolutely shit.

However that doesn’t mean I’m going to start believing half baked theories started by no-marks trying to pretend it’s not very real, just so I can feel better about things by kidding myself that I’m one step ahead and I know what they’re up to with their “narratives”

It's because a virus that doesn't even cause symptoms in around half the people who get it has made it so you can be fined 3 grand for going to someone's house. Take away the good things and leave all the shit in place for ages and people will start to lose their shit

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It's because a virus that doesn't even cause symptoms in around half the people who get it has made it so you can be fined 3 grand for going to someone's house. Take away the good things and leave all the shit in place for ages and people will start to lose their shit

So fuck the other half then. No doubt it’s shit, but unfortunately that doesn’t mean it isn’t real and all a wicked plan to mess up people’s lives.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So fuck the other half then. No doubt it’s shit, but unfortunately that doesn’t mean it isn’t real and all a wicked plan to mess up people’s lives.

Vallance's estimates had us at a 0.4% death rate. About half don't get symptoms, another 30% will get mild symptoms. People under 20 will hardly ever fall ill from it but I have to teach in a box and refrain from even handing them a sheet. Where's the justification in that BS?

 

[chiefdave]

Some good news. Although this sounds a bit like the moonshot test, Johnson will be annoyed if someone has already developed it and he can't chuck a load of money to his mates.

Coronavirus: New global test will give results 'in minutes'

The WHO says the low-cost test will be available to millions in low- and middle-income countries.

www.bbc.co.uk

A test that can accurately diagnose coronavirus in minutes will dramatically expand testing in low and middle-income countries, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said.

The $5 (£3.80) test could transform tracking of Covid-19 in less wealthy countries, which have shortages of healthcare workers and laboratories.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I'm a pessimist anyway SB, this has sent it into overdrive. Another 6 months of this is too much

Keep your chin up mate, hopefully things will improve quicker than hoped.

I really don’t know why six months was mentioned (it’s daunting for most). Really should’ve just said monthly review and if they can release restrictions, they will do so (even temporarily) to encourage people to do the right thing.

I agree with those that say hospital admissions, deaths etc will continue to rise for a period (of course they will), however, hopefully nowhere near the rate of the first wave. There’s new info being released all the time which may help them to tweak policy - like the higher viral load infections reducing over time (assuming due to masks, distancing etc) thereby more ‘less serious’ cases.

fingers crossed better news on the way (we can but hope !)

ps just to clarify, thats not to say that nhs capacity still doesn’t need to be managed during the coming months but if lockdowns/restrictions are being implemented there needs to be proper consideration as to when, where, who for and for how long.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Keep your chin up mate, hopefully things will improve quicker than hoped.

I really don’t know why six months was mentioned (it’s daunting for most). Really should’ve just said monthly review and if they can release restrictions, they will do so (even temporarily) to encourage people to do the right thing.

I agree with those that say hospital admissions, deaths etc will continue to rise for a period (of course they will), however, hopefully nowhere near the rate of the first wave. There’s new info being released all the time which may help them to tweak policy - like the higher viral load infections reducing over time (assuming due to masks, distancing etc) thereby more ‘less serious’ cases.

fingers crossed better news on the way (we can but hope !)

ps just to clarify, thats not to say that nhs capacity still doesn’t need to be managed during the coming months but if lockdowns/restrictions are being implemented there needs to be proper consideration as to when, where, who for and for how long.

The last 6+ months have already done enough damage to me Steve and as I keep saying it's because of a virus that seems to have record % of people not even getting symptoms. Yet we're allowing it to ruin every aspect of society, people's livelihoods, their mental health and so on. I just need some light at the end of the tunnel and I don't see it

 

[clint van damme]

Vallance's estimates had us at a 0.4% death rate. About half don't get symptoms, another 30% will get mild symptoms. People under 20 will hardly ever fall ill from it but I have to teach in a box and refrain from even handing them a sheet. Where's the justification in that BS?

On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.

 

[David O'Day]

Vallance's estimates had us at a 0.4% death rate. About half don't get symptoms, another 30% will get mild symptoms. People under 20 will hardly ever fall ill from it but I have to teach in a box and refrain from even handing them a sheet. Where's the justification in that BS?

Cool let us let people die because some cunts are having a paddy about having having to not have a whale of a time.

Fuck them

 

[Saddlebrains]

Cool let us let people die because some cunts are having a paddy about having having to not have a whale of a time.

Fuck them

Is your real name Karen by any chance?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.

I think that’s the only way to look at it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Cool let us let people die because some cunts are having a paddy about having having to not have a whale of a time.

Fuck them

It has probably made me depressed DOD but that's fine dismiss it as trivial

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.

As above I just need some light at the end of the tunnel. I am normally fine handling short term setbacks but if the long term seems bleak I can't really shake it.

 

[chiefdave]

It’s making me miserable just thinking about yet more things I can’t do while I’m being asked to do my job in the most farcical circumstances. There’s nothing to look forward to for months on end

Its horrible mate, there's literally nothing to look forward to. I'm still furloughed, no idea if I'll have a job once we get past October so sit here worrying about how I'm going to pay the mortgage and bills.

Haven't seen anyone apart from my Mum and Dad in months. My Dads 86 and I can see him deteriorating by the week as he's just sat in the house doing nothing. At this rate I'd be surprised if he makes it through another 6 months of this.

But what's the alternative? Even the 0.4% you quote would equate to over 250K deaths, do we just accept that and open everything up? Of course that figure assumes the NHS not being overwhelmed, with the rate this spreads out they'd soon run out of capacity and the death rate would spiral.

Not to mention we don't know how much long term damage is done to those who 'recover' and there's also some research to suggest that those who are asymptomatic are seeing damage to their heart and lungs that will cause future issues. There's no easy answer to this. We're really just all trying to get through it until either treatment massively improves or a vaccine is ready.

 

[TomRad85]

Anyone heard anything about Halloween? Daughters favourite holiday and she was asking today if it’ll be “cancelled”. Genuinely didn’t know what to tell her.

As long as you prep her for trick or treating like so, it should be fine.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Its horrible mate, there's literally nothing to look forward to. I'm still furloughed, no idea if I'll have a job once we get past October so sit here worrying about how I'm going to pay the mortgage and bills.

Haven't seen anyone apart from my Mum and Dad in months. My Dads 86 and I can see him deteriorating by the week as he's just sat in the house doing nothing. At this rate I'd be surprised if he makes it through another 6 months of this.

But what's the alternative? Even the 0.4% you quote would equate to over 250K deaths, do we just accept that and open everything up? Of course that figure assumes the NHS not being overwhelmed, with the rate this spreads out they'd soon run out of capacity and the death rate would spiral.

Not to mention we don't know how much long term damage is done to those who 'recover' and there's also some research to suggest that those who are asymptomatic are seeing damage to their heart and lungs that will cause future issues. There's no easy answer to this. We're really just all trying to get through it until either treatment massively improves or a vaccine is ready.

Yeah I remember you talking about that a number of times. I just want something to look forward to

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yeah I remember you talking about that a number of times. I just want something to look forward to

What you have to do, is little things.

The walk in the park, the bottle of beer cooling in the fridge, the film you've chosen to watch at the weekend. Me and my Dad occasionally pick some craft beer and drink it on Skype. Mrs Wisdom has just made some excellent flapjacks and that may be a small thing, but it's a fine treat. There's a hamper of goodies being delivered this week, ordered by me... for me

Then, start planning your Christmas, maybe. Might not be how you'd have wanted to spend it, but what food would you like, who's cooking.

There are always things to look forward to, but you'll have to find them in different places.

 

[Sick Boy]

On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.

Yeah it’s shite, I just want to see my mum and dad, the prospect of not seeing them until next Spring or Summer is dreadful

 

[Sick Boy]

What you have to do, is little things.

The walk in the park, the bottle of beer cooling in the fridge, the film you've chosen to watch at the weekend. Me and my Dad occasionally pick some craft beer and drink it on Skype. Mrs Wisdom has just made some excellent flapjacks and that may be a small thing, but it's a fine treat. There's a hamper of goodies being delivered this week, ordered by me... for me

Then, start planning your Christmas, maybe. Might not be how you'd have wanted to spend it, but what food would you like, who's cooking.

There are always things to look forward to, but you'll have to find them in different places.

Great advice, made a steak and Guinness pie yesterday...got an extra 7 cans of Guinness to ‘complement’ the pie as well - lovely

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What you have to do, is little things.

The walk in the park, the bottle of beer cooling in the fridge, the film you've chosen to watch at the weekend. Me and my Dad occasionally pick some craft beer and drink it on Skype. Mrs Wisdom has just made some excellent flapjacks and that may be a small thing, but it's a fine treat. There's a hamper of goodies being delivered this week, ordered by me... for me

Then, start planning your Christmas, maybe. Might not be how you'd have wanted to spend it, but what food would you like, who's cooking.

There are always things to look forward to, but you'll have to find them in different places.

The less said about Mrs BSB's cooking the better

 

[shmmeee]

This too shall pass guys.

It’s shit and it’s doubly shit cos everyone’s going through it at once. But we’ll come out the other side.

As long as you prep her for trick or treating like so, it should be fine.

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“We’re all dressing as Minions this year kids!”

 

[fernandopartridge]

Anyone heard anything about Halloween? Daughters favourite holiday and she was asking today if it’ll be “cancelled”. Genuinely didn’t know what to tell her.

Suits me, I hate it

 

[fernandopartridge]

Make sure it is a 2 metre distance from the trimmings

The pigs and their blankets have been deconstructed

 

[shmmeee]

Suits me, I hate it

Im gonna go out on a limb and say you’re not a ten year old girl with a sweet tooth and a love of the gothic.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Keep your chin up mate, hopefully things will improve quicker than hoped.

I really don’t know why six months was mentioned (it’s daunting for most). Really should’ve just said monthly review and if they can release restrictions, they will do so (even temporarily) to encourage people to do the right thing.

I agree with those that say hospital admissions, deaths etc will continue to rise for a period (of course they will), however, hopefully nowhere near the rate of the first wave. There’s new info being released all the time which may help them to tweak policy - like the higher viral load infections reducing over time (assuming due to masks, distancing etc) thereby more ‘less serious’ cases.

fingers crossed better news on the way (we can but hope !)

ps just to clarify, thats not to say that nhs capacity still doesn’t need to be managed during the coming months but if lockdowns/restrictions are being implemented there needs to be proper consideration as to when, where, who for and for how long.

Part of me thinks the 6 month thing is a nudge rather than genuine, I certainly hope so anyway

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The pigs and their blankets have been deconstructed

It’s the only roast dinner I like but as it’s turkey nobody else does

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Part of me thinks the 6 month thing is a nudge rather than genuine, I certainly hope so anyway

Isn’t the law they’re signing a 6 month extension?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Im gonna go out on a limb and say you’re not a ten year old girl with a sweet tooth and a love of the gothic.

I'm 11

 

[Ian1779]

Yeah I remember you talking about that a number of times. I just want something to look forward to

I watched Elf this evening. Cheered me up a bit until I realised I sacked off the pile of mocks I needed to mark.

Gonna watch Gremlins tomorrow - fuck the mocks it’s all gonna be CAG anyway.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I watched Elf this evening. Cheered me up a bit until I realised I sacked off the pile of mocks I needed to mark.

Gonna watch Gremlins tomorrow - fuck the mocks it’s all gonna be CAG anyway.

In my humble opinion Gremlins is the greatest festive movie of all time, followed by Planes, Trains & Automobiles and National Lampoons

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Hmm. And to think I was looking forward to watching Get Carter...

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yeah it’s shite, I just want to see my mum and dad, the prospect of not seeing them until next Spring or Summer is dreadful

What’s stopping you seeing them? I’ve just remembered you’re in Italy. Sorry

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Hmm. And to think I was looking forward to watching Get Carter...

One thing I’ve noticed is that whenever I watch something and there is a gathering of any kind in a bar or something, I instinctively find myself thinking “they’re taking a chance”- this thing takes over your thoughts completely

The Office (USA version) is my go to escapism programme, and the Channel 4 programme that was on Channel 4 in about 2001

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I watched Elf this evening. Cheered me up a bit until I realised I sacked off the pile of mocks I needed to mark.

Gonna watch Gremlins tomorrow - fuck the mocks it’s all gonna be CAG anyway.

We don't do mocks till after Christmas. Spend most of my time trying to re-plan entirely practical lessons for use in random rooms, that and doss about on here of course.