David O'Day
Well-Known Member
I did and I don't think it will make much difference
I didn’t say it was?
Right Said Fred were going around with QAnon signs at the weekend in London, they think COVID is a hoax and have started blocking the many people now referring to them as ‘Far Right Said Fred. I find this information this both very bizarre and very amusing
Yep it's glitchy as fuck. You'd think a tracing app would make use of the geolocation features and work out where you are.
They haven't really fixed the app test results issue either as you then have to go and actually request a code.
Why have we released a half finished app that adds very little. Money would of been better spent on the local PH teams who are experience track and tracers.
If it still carries on at this rate in 10 days time then we must start questioning restrictions surely? We're what pushing 2 weeks since cases started spiking again?
If it still carries on at this rate in 10 days time then we must start questioning restrictions surely? We're what pushing 2 weeks since cases started spiking again?
No because it started like this in both Spain and France and they are now starting to show 3 figure deaths totals.
That's the expected timeframe for a rise in cases rather than deaths isn't it?First peak everyone confidently said its 3 weeks before any major uptick in deaths from cases.
That's the expected timeframe for a rise in cases rather than deaths isn't it?
Assumed there was a lag in people testing positive as every time there's been a big event people have said wait 2-3 weeks to see the impact on cases.No not as far as im aware. Cases rise exponentially due to how virile the disease is, spreads like wildfire as we know.
The 2-4 week wait is from a spike in cases to a spike in deaths. Which is what we saw first time round. We're 3 weeks into the second peak and deaths staying flat
Assumed there was a lag in people testing positive as every time there's been a big event people have said wait 2-3 weeks to see the impact on cases.
From what is being said about current cases if we're following the same pattern as France and Spain the initial surge in cases is in younger people who then pass it on. We're told younger people are likely to be less seriously affected, would that explain the reason its taking longer for the death rate to increase?
Potentially. Just seems strange how theres not been a massive spike in deaths abroad either after a second wave.
I was speaking to my friend who works at UHCW Thursday. He made a bold comment that i find hard to disagree with.
'Whilst shielding the elderly and trying to give them an extra year or 2, we are actually endangering the middle aged due to the backlog in cancer treatments, cardiology check ups etc'
We may be giving Ethel aged 86 another year or 2 but we're knocking 25 years off Dave aged 44'
Sobering really
But why?
First peak everyone confidently said its 3 weeks before any major uptick in deaths from cases.
We're 2 weeks down the line now so surely you'd be seeing something is all im saying? Not that it will or wont happen.
One thing for certain is Whitty And Vallances graph to scare the shit out of everyone is looking a bit far fetched
Potentially. Just seems strange how theres not been a massive spike in deaths abroad either after a second wave.
I was speaking to my friend who works at UHCW Thursday. He made a bold comment that i find hard to disagree with.
'Whilst shielding the elderly and trying to give them an extra year or 2, we are actually endangering the middle aged due to the backlog in cancer treatments, cardiology check ups etc'
We may be giving Ethel aged 86 another year or 2 but we're knocking 25 years off Dave aged 44'
Sobering really
If your mate works at UHCW he should be well aware it's killed 650 front line staff.
Your comment about giving Ethel a couple more years is flippant and disengenious.
Where are you finding that? I've just googled and got this?
it would be if it wasn't total bullshit
That's a Sunday and the very same graph shows 150 reported deaths on Friday.
We don’t know if we’ve reached the peak of the second wave yet.Compared to 2000 a day at the previous peak.
Compared to 2000 a day at the previous peak.
He does and got redeployed to the covid wards in April. No such thing happening this time around, i wonder why.
and i dont feel its disingenuous, It's true. Ok i maybe could have worded the comment better, but Its still massively, massively rare it kills anyone who isnt elderly or withoutany underlying conditions.
Yet the knock on effect is hundreds of thousands of people are going to be on the path to advanced/aggressive cancer due to not being able to receive the fantastic treatment we receive from the NHS.
The estimates of new hospital cases seem to have peaked last week and has been on the decline, but no data for today as yet.Only 4004 so maybe the managing of things is working. I know it’s Monday though
Inform me how its total bullshit then?
I can only speak anecdotally, but treatment has been scheduled as 'normal' for family and friends (and me!) in hospital (a variety of illnesses across us all!). I can only assume that's because they weren't treating a mass of coronavirus cases.How do you get hundreds of thousands will be on their way to advanced cancer?
There will be people in that position,.There are people in that position but how do you get such a high figure?
He does and got redeployed to the covid wards in April. No such thing happening this time around, i wonder why.
and i dont feel its disingenuous, It's true. Ok i maybe could have worded the comment better, but Its still massively, massively rare it kills anyone who isnt elderly or withoutany underlying conditions.
Yet the knock on effect is hundreds of thousands of people are going to be on the path to advanced/aggressive cancer due to not being able to receive the fantastic treatment we receive from the NHS.
Another point about let her rip type strategies: it’s not just about deaths, it’s about all that comes with deaths: overloaded admin services, bodies piling up unable to be buried, hospitals overrun and unable to cope with normal service. The politicial impact alone of mass graves or body piles in the U.K. would mean no government that has any self preservation instincts would allow that to happen.
Indeed, therein lies the inherent contradictions in the 'let it rip' type people who don't think things through. They complain on the one hand that the NHS is shut down and not providing its usual services but on the other think it should be made to deal with the potential fallout of thousands of cases as if March/April was a walk in the park.
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