Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (7 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Yeah but would you rather live in Italy.

Speaking of which Italian friend of mine, who lives in London, is heading back to Italy to stay with her parents. Reckons when she gets there she will be tested and get the results within 30 minutes, with a negative test meaning no quarantine.

If that's possible in Italy why was Johnson only a few days ago talking about the £100bn cost of Operation Moonshot? And why has it now been seemingly abandoned?

 

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[Jamesimus]

Speaking of which Italian friend of mine, who lives in London, is heading back to Italy to stay with her parents. Reckons when she gets there she will be tested and get the results within 30 minutes, with a negative test meaning no quarantine.

If that's possible in Italy why was Johnson only a few days ago talking about the £100bn cost of Operation Moonshot? And why has it now been seemingly abandoned?

Yep, my friend went over recently. Test with result in 30 mins from getting off the plane.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don't thi k it was deliberately started, I just belive China lied and tried to cover up how much shit they were in and who had reports of human to human transmission in like October and they went and looked and reported it wasn't true now look, I'm not blaming them alone there's 1000s of contributing things that could of been done different including flights from certain areas earlier,

They didn’t

 

[Kieranp96]

Yes. We had nearly 19,000 new cases today...

They are behind us, Italy only had 800 cases 13 days ago, d there's a guy on n here crediting the goverment of Italy for making sure everyone wears mask giving praise ect and that's worked out well come 2 weeks later.

 

[Kieranp96]

They didn’t

So you reckon they only had 80k cases yea? Ight pal.

As for who this wokr out well

WHO says no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of novel coronavirus - Xinhua | English.news.cn

 

[David O'Day]

on the 3rd of october aka 13 days ago italy had 2843 cases

 

[Jamesimus]

They are behind us, Italy only had 800 cases 13 days ago, d there's a guy on n here crediting the goverment of Italy for making sure everyone wears mask giving praise ect and that's worked out well come 2 weeks later.

I'm going to stop replying to you now because it's like talking to a sieve.

 

[Kieranp96]

I'm going to stop replying to you now because it's like talking to a sieve.

Your choice .

 

[Philosoraptor]

Question:

Do you trust CCC to make life and death decisions regarding the implementation of these lockdowns when just two years ago they were branded by an independent tribunal, and I quote;

"Yet Coventry City Council, seemingly with a determination and delusion reminiscent of King Canute himself, has continued to enforce PCNs."

 

[Sick Boy]

They are behind us, Italy only had 800 cases 13 days ago, d there's a guy on n here crediting the goverment of Italy for making sure everyone wears mask giving praise ect and that's worked out well come 2 weeks later.

The obligation to wear a mask started a week ago.
There were also 2,843 new cases 13 days ago.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So you reckon they only had 80k cases yea? Ight pal.

As for who this wokr out well

WHO says no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of novel coronavirus - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Dated January 15th, nice one.

 

[David O'Day]

The obligation to wear a mask started a week ago.
There were also 2,843 new cases 13 days ago.

last time italy had around 800 cases was in August

 

[skybluetony176]

Speaking of which Italian friend of mine, who lives in London, is heading back to Italy to stay with her parents. Reckons when she gets there she will be tested and get the results within 30 minutes, with a negative test meaning no quarantine.

If that's possible in Italy why was Johnson only a few days ago talking about the £100bn cost of Operation Moonshot? And why has it now been seemingly abandoned?

I believe that they use the test developed and proven from South Korea. Not sure why we don’t just do the same rather than spank £100B on another Boris hair brained idea that won’t deliver.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So you reckon they only had 80k cases yea? Ight pal.

As for who this wokr out well

WHO says no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of novel coronavirus - Xinhua | English.news.cn

I think the information that’s been shared is pretty much unprecedented from a public health perspective. I have no idea whether the numbers are falsified. I know ours have been. Look at France and the lack of taking responsibility for the care homes debacle in England and Scotland.

Your trust of our government as opposed to others despite the evidence is somewhat naive and I’m the most naive person I know

 

[shmmeee]

Question:

Do you trust CCC to make life and death decisions regarding the implementation of these lockdowns when just two years ago they were branded by an independent tribunal, and I quote;

"Yet Coventry City Council, seemingly with a determination and delusion reminiscent of King Canute himself, has continued to enforce PCNs."

Funnily enough public health isnt handled by the traffic enforcement department. So yes. Local health teams have a much better record than private TNT teams.

 

[Macca]

So the Mancs and Scousers don’t want to play ball, no huge surprise on the Scouser front. Would a compromise be to just have a ban on travel in and out of these areas but let them carry on within? That way they get their freedom but don’t screw anyone else over.

 

[David O'Day]

So the Mancs and Scousers don’t want to play ball, no huge surprise on the Scouser front. Would a compromise be to just have a ban on travel in and out of these areas but let them carry on within? That way they get their freedom but don’t screw anyone else over.

Liverpool is already tier 3

The "mancs" just want a fair package of help for the workers and businesses decimated by any further restrictions.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Liverpool is already tier 3

The "mancs" just want a fair package of help for the workers and businesses decimated by any further restrictions.

Burnham is basically acting as labour leader in the absence of the PLP

 

[Macca]

Liverpool is already tier 3

The "mancs" just want a fair package of help for the workers and businesses decimated by any further restrictions.

But for Liverpool where there is a movement around not abiding by those tier 3 rules, is the aforementioned plan more workable. Freedom within the city but accept travel restrictions out of it?

 

[Ian1779]

Burnham is basically acting as labour leader in the absence of the PLP

When Starmer advised his MP’s to abstain from the Spy Cops bill they obviously interpreted it as abstain from anything meaningful or useful at all.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

'Lancashire has agreed a deal to enter Tier 3 - the highest level of England'

What is this, transfer deadline day muddled up with Covid-19? Can just imagine CCC doing a deal with the government. Pocketing all the money and saying they are skint. It is a bit worrying actually.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

'Lancashire has agreed a deal to enter Tier 3 - the highest level of England'

What is this, transfer deadline day muddled up with Covid-19? Can just imagine CCC doing a deal with the government. Pocketing all the money and saying they are skint. It is a bit worrying actually.

It’s sharing the blame. To be fair I’m pretty annoyed at burnham and government for not sorting it out. Fiddling while Rome burns

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So we're to expect between 240-690 deaths a day by 26th October. Cheery stuff. Might be time for me to retreat from the news again!

 

[Nick]

Whats the latest? Is the pub still open tonight?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It’s sharing the blame. To be fair I’m pretty annoyed at burnham and government for not sorting it out. Fiddling while Rome burns

I totally agree with you.

This is a pandemic, not a fucking soap opera.

 

[Nick]

So we're to expect between 240-690 deaths a day by 26th October. Cheery stuff. Might be time for me to retreat from the news again!

Isn't there hundreds of deaths a day from cancer that isn't all over the news and drummed into people?

Statistically, I think I am more likely to die from cancer than COVID too.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I can't read any of it behind the paywall, but the first couple of paras are enough.

Russians spread fake news over Oxford coronavirus vaccine

A Russian disinformation campaign designed to undermine and spread fear about the Oxford University coronavirus vaccine has been exposed by a Times investigation.Pictures, memes and video clips depicting the British-made vaccine as dangerous have been devised in Russia and middlemen are now seeking

www.thetimes.co.uk

Now surely isn't the time for this kind of thing! Even for the likes of Putin!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Isn't there hundreds of deaths a day from cancer that isn't all over the news and drummed into people?

Statistically, I think I am more likely to die from cancer than COVID too.

Pretty irrelevant, as I can't catch cancer having a chat to my work colleague.

It's also drummed into me to eat less carconegenic stuff, smoke less, get checked out at the doctor at the sign of triouble - all mitigating factors.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

In more bad news, we can still go on holiday to Wales, as we're still tier one.

 

[Nick]

Pretty irrelevant, as I can't catch cancer having a chat to my work colleague.

It's also drummed into me to eat less carconegenic stuff, smoke less, get checked out at the doctor at the sign of triouble - all mitigating factors.

No, you can't which is why you need to then look at the statistics of it all.

Not saying "it's nothing to worry about" but I don't think it's something to be stuck away scared of and getting bothered about the news every day and tuning in to listen to how many people have died. It will do nothing but drag people down.

Have they released how many more suicides per day during it all?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Isn't there hundreds of deaths a day from cancer that isn't all over the news and drummed into people?

Statistically, I think I am more likely to die from cancer than COVID too.

Statistically you're more likely to be killed by an asteroid, because although the chances of it happening are very low the death count if it does will be billions.

Also you can't catch cancer from being close to other people. There's plenty of things we could do to reduce cancer cases in terms of business practices, environment etc which are resisted because, y'know, £££. But we can help restrict the spread of Covid by following some simple rules and being willing to temporarily have a shit time by restricting our movements.

 

[clint van damme]

Isn't there hundreds of deaths a day from cancer that isn't all over the news and drummed into people?

Statistically, I think I am more likely to die from cancer than COVID too.

yeah, but you're not likely to catch cancer from someone drooling over you in a pub

 

[Nick]

yeah, but you're not likely to catch cancer from someone drooling over you in a pub

Luckily being an ugly c**t I have never had that issue.

 

[clint van damme]

No, you can't which is why you need to then look at the statistics of it all.

Not saying "it's nothing to worry about" but I don't think it's something to be stuck away scared of and getting bothered about the news every day and tuning in to listen to how many people have died. It will do nothing but drag people down.

Have they released how many more suicides per day during it all?

I don't think there's much evidence that it's increased from what I've read though I'm prepared to be proven wrong on that. Look at the mental health thread, people saying lock down was actually beneficial.
I think we'll only really see the knock on affect of lock down on mental health over the next few months as the jobless total starts rising. Being out of work is a huge problem for a lot of people.

 

[Nick]

I don't think there's much evidence that it's increased from what I've read though I'm prepared to be proven wrong on that. Look at the mental health thread, people saying lock down was actually beneficial.
I think we'll only really see the knock on affect of lock down on mental health over the next few months as the jobless total starts rising. Being out of work is a huge problem for a lot of people.

Yeah that's the thing, job losses etc which will be the main factor of it.

It's one thing people having less stress because they are on furlough and paid still but if jobs go completely that's a completely different matter.