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djr8369

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Kieranp96 said:
Our furlough scheme is better than that, I know it's ending, it shouldnt be but still. 60% wage if your business is forced to shit down is cracking, I've worked throughout the whole pandemic from home, for like 5 mo ths I was on 80% wage.
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You worked throughout but were on 80% wages?
 
chiefdave

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Kieranp96 said:
What can be done then doffently. Please explain as I see every cou try in the world is fucked apart from China coincidentally.
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Some of the issues we have now goes back to before covid. Lack of funding the NHS - every winter just with regular flu the NHS is on its knees with ambulances queuing outside A&E; lack of funding the police - how are they supposed to enforce any restrictions when they don't have the manpower for their existing workload; lack of funding schools - large class sizes, old cramped schools with poor ventilation or even schools in old office blocks.

Clearly there were things we could have done. We're among the worst for deaths and the among the worst for economic performance. We're also an island and had plenty of warning so you could make a fair argument that we should be doing better than pretty much everyone.

Simply put we're not following the science, and we never really have. Even back when they did the simulation a few years ago, the things that were highlighted then were ignored and are the problems we have now. Most things that have come in have been down to public pressure rather than the government actually leading.
Kieranp96 said:
We have been the most generous in support not one other cou try I can think has gave as much aid as our government
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Kieranp96 said:
Our furlough scheme is better than that, I know it's ending, it shouldnt be but still.
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Again an issue here that predates covid. Our 'safety net' isn't fit for purpose. If you lose your job you're expected to live on £410 a month (although the government is planning a big cut to that early next year). Other countries already had systems in place so it was just a larger uptake of their usual system, and in some cases extending the schemes so people can stay on them for longer.

We had to start from nothing. That's why we had to rush in furlough, which was good I'll give you that but maybe could have been implemented better to ensure only companies that needed it could claim and there was some pressure to get people back in. The replacement system IMO will have very low take up and I suspect thats by design. Since it was announced the company I work for have already done two rounds of redundancy. They are all 'viable' jobs that will be needed in the future but why would they keep people on now when its going to cost them more than letting them go?
 
chiefdave

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Can anyone imagine something like this happening here?
Police in France have searched the home of Health Minister Olivier Veran as part of an enquiry into the government’s handling of the pandemic.

He is one of several current and former health ministers being investigated into their response to the pandemic. It also includes former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe.

Victims of Covid-19 accuse them of being too slow to act to check the spread of the virus.
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chiefdave

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Sick Boy said:
Talk of a national lockdown over Christmas here
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Obvious to see why, normally you'd get thousands of people moving round the country to spend time in other households. Needs a public buy in through as it would be difficult to police unless you're stopping people on the roads and checking where they are going.
 
Sick Boy

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chiefdave said:
Obvious to see why, normally you'd get thousands of people moving round the country to spend time in other households. Needs a public buy in through as it would be difficult to police unless you're stopping people on the roads and checking where they are going.
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That would definitely happen, it’ll actually get properly enforced here with large fines.
 
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chiefdave said:
Obvious to see why, normally you'd get thousands of people moving round the country to spend time in other households. Needs a public buy in through as it would be difficult to police unless you're stopping people on the roads and checking where they are going.
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Nothing like issuing massive fines for the crime of going to see family members at Christmas.
 
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Ring Of Steel said:
In more positive developments, in Ireland all home visits are now banned, therefore an afternoon in my in-laws' garden this weekend has been cancelled.

You have to seize any good news when you find it (y)
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You stealing Boris Johnson's joke?
 
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For cases handled by local health protection teams, 97.7% of contacts were reached and asked to self-isolate. For cases handled either online or by call centres, 57.6% of close contacts were reached.
 
Marty

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Slightly off topic, but is anyone aware of any information regarding re-skilling?? I like my job but feel wasted sometimes, so wouldn't mind having a go at A levels.
 
shmmeee

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Marty said:
Slightly off topic, but is anyone aware of any information regarding re-skilling?? I like my job but feel wasted sometimes, so wouldn't mind having a go at A levels.
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I’d have thought you could go straight in at L4/5 rather than doing A levels. Do you know what you want to do?
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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Marty said:
Slightly off topic, but is anyone aware of any information regarding re-skilling?? I like my job but feel wasted sometimes, so wouldn't mind having a go at A levels.
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Might be worth a new thread, think a lot of people ignore this one and the other political threads.

Something I've thought about a lot but not sure how you can change career mid 40s with a mortgage and bills to pay. Did the quiz thing on the government site and it came up with the most bizarre career suggestions, but ignoring that the striking thing was that the first step in every career it suggested was going back to uni and doing another degree. Even if I could afford to do that I'd be nearly 50 by the time I finish it, even longer if its part time!
 
shmmeee

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chiefdave said:
Might be worth a new thread, think a lot of people ignore this one and the other political threads.

Something I've thought about a lot but not sure how you can change career mid 40s with a mortgage and bills to pay. Did the quiz thing on the government site and it came up with the most bizarre career suggestions, but ignoring that the striking thing was that the first step in every career it suggested was going back to uni and doing another degree. Even if I could afford to do that I'd be nearly 50 by the time I finish it, even longer if its part time!
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Do it! I retrained at 36. Best decision I ever made. Year at Uni was tough but enjoyable.
 
Marty

Marty

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shmmeee said:
I’d have thought you could go straight in at L4/5 rather than doing A levels. Do you know what you want to do?
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I was thinking Physiotherapy as the career change, even if I stick in my current job and give myself a better chance of working up when the jobs become available. I spoke to the Cov Uni a couple of years ago (physio) and they wouldn't accept me as I was missing GCSE Maths at B. I have Mechanical Engineering at level 3 and done that for 14 years,

chiefdave said:
Might be worth a new thread, think a lot of people ignore this one and the other political threads.

Something I've thought about a lot but not sure how you can change career mid 40s with a mortgage and bills to pay. Did the quiz thing on the government site and it came up with the most bizarre career suggestions, but ignoring that the striking thing was that the first step in every career it suggested was going back to uni and doing another degree. Even if I could afford to do that I'd be nearly 50 by the time I finish it, even longer if its part time!
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The age isn't so much an issue for me being early 30's but I have the mortgage and bills, when I was looking at it, I'm pritty sure you're exempt from council tax as a full time student (not sure how it works with a wife and kids etc). Not sure if all banks are the same but Santander were very accommodating and let me have a good play about with the figures and stuff too allow me to do uni and not get into debt, etc.
 
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chiefdave said:
Something I've thought about a lot but not sure how you can change career mid 40s with a mortgage and bills to pay.
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Yeah, part of me thinks I've missed the boat.

That being said, I often wonder if I'd been furloughed, if I'd have done all the nice things I'd promise myself I'd do, or if I'd have sat around in my pants watching repeats of Homes Under the Hammer!
 
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Marty said:
I was thinking Physiotherapy as the career change, even if I stick in my current job and give myself a better chance of working up when the jobs become available. I spoke to the Cov Uni a couple of years ago (physio) and they wouldn't accept me as I was missing GCSE Maths at B. I have Mechanical Engineering at level 3 and done that for 14 years,



The age isn't so much an issue for me being early 30's but I have the mortgage and bills, when I was looking at it, I'm pritty sure you're exempt from council tax as a full time student (not sure how it works with a wife and kids etc). Not sure if all banks are the same but Santander were very accommodating and let me have a good play about with the figures and stuff too allow me to do uni and not get into debt, etc.
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Check out what the Open University offer - they're often flexible with entry requirements, and are usually pretty good with getting you to where you need to be, if you need something extra, as efficiently as possible.
 
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