David O'Day
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one strange thing i noticed was how much the AS claims had an effected in 2019. Being told by folk who relly couldn't give a rats about AS they could vote for him because it was weird
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one strange thing i noticed was how much the AS claims had an effected in 2019. Being told by folk who relly couldn't give a rats about AS they could vote for him because it was weird
clint van damme
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tried to deny tweeting something that millions of people had read and that thousands had screen shotted.
Then I remembered his boss is a serial liar who tried to deny saying something that he was filmed saying by the UK media so I see where he got his inspiration from.
Skybluefaz
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That and I suppose flat out lying has worked fine in the past
Ian1779
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Tories... the gift that keeps on giving.
Covid: Laptop allocation for deprived pupils cut at some schools
Covid: Laptop allocation for deprived pupils cut at some schools
Skybluefaz
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My wife's school only got 2 and I think around 40% of the children are on free school meals.
shmmeee
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The Russia response and antisemitism basically:YouGov: Corbyn popularity plummets after anti-Semitism row
clint van damme
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so because of that people voted for a fella who's in balls deep with the Council of Europe and the Lebedevs.
Ladies and gentlemen, the British public!!
Brighton Sky Blue
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Is it just incompetence or a move to hinder closing schools for a while?
pipkin73
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Talking of Supermarket food waste, i had the roof down on my Jeep a while back and when i got back to it one of the Hyperdino supermarkets by me had put a sack of food in my back seat (it's was parked on the way to the bins). Shit loads of steaks, pork and Chicken etc.... never found out which one but it fed me and my neighbours for about 2 weeks. Just shows how it can help if they don't dump the food.
chiefdave
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Seems that staff at George Eliot have received a memo from the chief exec, Glen Burley, regarding vaccinations:
Fingers crossed there is something to this and not just a case of crossed wires. Think knowing there is a light at the end of the tunnel would be great for people. Might also help persuade people to stick to the rules if they know there's an end in sight.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Dr Fauci in the US intimated something similar
fernandopartridge
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Aye, saw that in his interview with Andrew Marr.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He did also say it still wouldn’t mean a return to normality for ages
fernandopartridge
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Yeah, the NHS vaccine is to avoid killing another 500 staff this winter. Not a silver bullet.
chiefdave
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Did he expand on that? Does he just mean because it will take months and months to roll it out to enough people to allow a return to normality or due to a lack of effectiveness?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I believe due to supply issues
chiefdave
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Don't think anyone expected to have it rolled out to everyone by Xmas. Not even Johnson has claimed that has he? If they're planning to start this year I'd take that as good news as I was thinking next spring was looking optimistic.
Would think that if you can cover NHS workers, elderly and vulnerable by the start of the summer then as the percentage of people vaccinated increases things can gradually start opening up and going back to normal.
No doubt there will be an option to queue jump for those with the money. Given that there was talk of tests costing £200 plus when you couldn't get an appointment wouldn't be surprised if queue jumping the vaccine came with a price tag in the thousands.
In Boris Johnsons last press conference they were mentioning People would likely be receiving vaccines by Xmas and then it will be rolled out in bigger numbers in spring.
Skybluefaz
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A working vaccine this side of Xmas would be a real shot in the arm.
Skybluefaz
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Apologies for the shit pun, but I mean it. I do think it would be a huge morale boost to see something so soon. Personally I'd written off the vaccine until next year.
David O'Day
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being caught out lying
Here he is two months ago.
Also exposes the hypocrisy on t&t when the emphasis on free meals for kids is best served through LA's but t&t nationally through a private body.
Anyhow.
One group of holidaymakers even chartered a boat across the Channel to beat the deadline for arrivals from France after missing the last ferry.
As it stands, anyone arriving in the UK from overseas must isolate for two weeks when they get here. If you’re symptom-free at the end of that time, you can end isolation – and you don’t need to take a coronavirus test.
Passengers from some countries are exempt, but that list is constantly changing as the government gets new information about local outbreaks overseas.
It was reported in late August that airline bosses had written to the Health Secretary Matt Hancock to say that the current quarantine policy is hampering the economic recovery and “leaves those who have travelled abroad unable to return to work, prevents business travel, and suppresses inbound tourism.” They called instead for a much shorter quarantine period, bookended by testing.
And there is some evidence – including from the government’s own modelling – that shorter isolation periods combined with testing could be just as effective as the current regime.
So why is the government sticking with the 14-day quarantine
Also exposes the hypocrisy on t&t when the emphasis on free meals for kids is best served through LA's but t&t nationally through a private body.
Anyhow.
- Georgina Lee
- 3 Sep 2020
One group of holidaymakers even chartered a boat across the Channel to beat the deadline for arrivals from France after missing the last ferry.
As it stands, anyone arriving in the UK from overseas must isolate for two weeks when they get here. If you’re symptom-free at the end of that time, you can end isolation – and you don’t need to take a coronavirus test.
Passengers from some countries are exempt, but that list is constantly changing as the government gets new information about local outbreaks overseas.
It was reported in late August that airline bosses had written to the Health Secretary Matt Hancock to say that the current quarantine policy is hampering the economic recovery and “leaves those who have travelled abroad unable to return to work, prevents business travel, and suppresses inbound tourism.” They called instead for a much shorter quarantine period, bookended by testing.
And there is some evidence – including from the government’s own modelling – that shorter isolation periods combined with testing could be just as effective as the current regime.
So why is the government sticking with the 14-day quarantine
Here's another one
Missed the prescient part of the other article unfortunately.
www.theguardian.com
Missed the prescient part of the other article unfortunately.
Matt Hancock: England in good position to avoid major Covid resurgence
Health secretary hails weekly mass testing programme but admits he is ‘very worried’ about surge in cases
I think this is a culture war play. Plays into the benefit scrounges and handouts narrative. Look at how many Tory MPs took the same line about FSM vouchers going towards drugs etc. It’s an horrendous, cynical game to drive another wedge in the population.
FactCheck: what’s the reason for 14-day travel quarantine?
There's evidence that shorter isolation periods combined with testing could be just as effective as the current regime.
www.channel4.com
David O'Day
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nah kids are a terrible culture war target and it's not driving a wedge anywhere apart from between tories and voters
It's just a government who can't be seen to let Labour win anything even if it will starve kids
Brighton Sky Blue
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January will be interesting. That 40% Brexit vote has stuck rigidly to the Tories so far. I wonder what will happen when they finally get Brexit done, or if we’ll have perpetual Brexit to keep voters scared and onside
The parties have been tied for a while now which tells me a well aimed strike at the right time by Starmer could put Labour ahead, or that a vaccine will put the Tories back ahead. Think Covid trumps Brexit still
Agreed it’s a terrible target but I think this government are best understood by looking at their decisions through the culture war lens. As you point out yourself it’s the only game Cummings knows. They end up U-turning on everything eventually so letting labour win doesn’t seem a viable explanation. Look at the situation with Burnham. All those negotiations and the support turns up anyway, the whole thing was an orchestrated charade to create some scape goats.
chiefdave
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You need to be more specific. So much to choose from with the car crash interviews he's been giving this morning. Noticed that he slipped in 500K tests a day by the end of the year when it was previously said to be by the end of October.
Skybluefaz
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Think they'll push for the latter.January will be interesting. That 40% Brexit vote has stuck rigidly to the Tories so far. I wonder what will happen when they finally get Brexit done, or if we’ll have perpetual Brexit to keep voters scared and onside
shmmeee
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Thats what I’m thinking:
December: Last minute thin gruel deal achieved and hailed as massive success by press.
Jan: Say we need to negotiate full deal and this will be proper Brexit, should last the next five years.