Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (157 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

It’s also my business if someone sitting next to me in a concert hasn’t been vaccinated as I well wouldn’t want such an ignorant moron in the building with me

He's not encouraging me to meet him for that drink...

 

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[skybluetony176]

I feel the same way - what's the point too if you can still contract the ol kung flu? How many more jabs do we need? We'll all become pin cushions

You should look up the medical dictionary definition of vaccine. It’s working exactly as a vaccine is designed to. A vaccines purpose is to prepare your immune system for a virus. Some people will receive immunity from it but the majority will still get it, some will never know they had it because their immunity system was prepared, some will know they’ve had it but get nowhere near as ill as they would otherwise. It’s doing exactly what it says on the tin and will continue to keep your tank full. Ie get your booster.

 

[baldy]

I think you're saying that you're obese but you aren't sure

Nope....nowhere near it

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So you haven’t. I have had two and will have a booster as I don’t want to be responsible for other people dying

Why won’t you answer when I will?

I’ve never had my prostate checked but I have had checks for a form of skin cancer which is negative and I’ve got my first flu jab next week

So vaxxed or not?

Being vaxxed doesn´t guarantee that you won´t be responsible for other people dying by the way.

But again, it is none of your fucking business what my medical status is.

This whole war of vaxxed versus unvaxxed is something people like you and Tony are gunning for, but then get upset when they say unless you have the booster that 65+ could have their freedoms taken away. You almost couldn´t make it up.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Its a bit rich pretending to be concerned for other people when it sounds like you haven't been vaccinated and you don't wear a mask.

Why are you making stuff up?

I said I didn´t want to wear a mask in an office for 8 hours. I wear one on the metro and in shops.

 

[baldy]

You should look up the medical dictionary definition of vaccine. It’s working exactly as a vaccine is designed to. A vaccines purpose is to prepare your immune system for a virus. Some people will receive immunity from it but the majority will still get it, some will never know they had it because their immunity system was prepared, some will know they’ve had it but get nowhere near as ill as they would otherwise. It’s doing exactly what it says on the tin and will continue to keep your tank full. Ie get your booster.

What gets me is the way the government are talking & acting as if we've had no vaccine roll-out at all - surely we're in a different place now at this stage of the pandemic now we've been double jabbed

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It’s also my business if someone sitting next to me in a concert hasn’t been vaccinated as I well wouldn’t want such an ignorant moron in the building with me

Let´s say you are sat next to two people. One is unvaxxed, the one on the other side is vaxxed.

The unvaxxed one had a test in the last 48 hours which proves they haven´t got the virus.

Which one are you most likely at risk from?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

What gets me is the way the government are talking & acting as if we've had no vaccine roll-out at all - surely we're in a different place now at this stage of the pandemic now we've been double jabbed

We're in a better place, sure - but not the best place yet.

 

[hill83]

Let´s say you are sat next to two people. One is unvaxxed, the one on the other side is vaxxed.

The unvaxxed one had a test in the last 48 hours which proves they haven´t got the virus.

Which one are you most likely at risk from?

I’d say the person who’s had the test in the last 48 hours.

Edit: No wait.

I mean you are most at risk from the person who’s been vaccinated I read it wrong. Ha ha

Negative test trumps everything in that situation for me.

 

[SBT]

Let´s say you are sat next to two people. One is unvaxxed, the one on the other side is vaxxed.

The unvaxxed one had a test in the last 48 hours which proves they haven´t got the virus.

Which one are you most likely at risk from?

The unvaxxed person, right?

I tested negative for coronavirus on the day I received my positive PCR test, for context.

 

[skybluetony176]

Let´s say you are sat next to two people. One is unvaxxed, the one on the other side is vaxxed.

The unvaxxed one had a test in the last 48 hours which proves they haven´t got the virus.

Which one are you most likely at risk from?

Depends. Has the guy who hasn’t been vaccinated but tested 48 hours ago been in isolation from the point of the test until they sat next to you? If not it’s the guy who hasn’t been vaccinated. The only thing he can prove is that he didn’t have it 48 hours ago and he’s more at risk to catching it than the vaccinated person in the 48 hours from their test.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Depends. Has the guy who hasn’t been vaccinated but tested 48 hours ago been in isolation from the point of the test until they sat next to you? If not it’s the guy who hasn’t been vaccinated. The only thing he can prove is that he didn’t have it 48 hours ago and he’s more at risk to catching it than the vaccinated person in the 48 hours from their test.

If they've not been vacciinated, they're also, you would think, more likely to play fast and loose with what they do too, therefore taking less care to protect the person they're sat next to...

 

[skybluetony176]

What gets me is the way the government are talking & acting as if we've had no vaccine roll-out at all - surely we're in a different place now at this stage of the pandemic now we've been double jabbed

Not enough people have got the vaccine. It’s as simple as that. We’re no where near the percentage of population required for herd immunity which leaves us all vulnerable regardless of whether you’ve had the vaccine or not. The next driver is going to be people who let their vaccine effectiveness be depleted by refusing a booster. Which lets face it will need to be annual at the very least, same as the flu jab.

 

[TomRad85]

If they've not been vacciinated, they're also, you would think, more likely to play fast and loose with what they do too, therefore taking less care to protect the person they're sat next to...

Bloke that lives down the road from me thinks the virus is a hoax but also pretty much bolts himself indoors as he doesn't want his mum getting infected. So he's literally locked himself in the house convinced the virus is made up while simultaneously being terrified of it.
Work that one out because I haven't got a fucking clue

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[Deleted member 5849]

Bloke that lives down the road from me thinks the virus is a hoax but also pretty much bolts himself indoors as he doesn't want his mum getting infected. So he's literally locked himself in the house convinced the virus is made up while simultaneously being terrified of it.
Work that one out because I haven't got a fucking clue

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That's a fine case study for somebody!

 

[Skybluefaz]

Bloke that lives down the road from me thinks the virus is a hoax but also pretty much bolts himself indoors as he doesn't want his mum getting infected. So he's literally locked himself in the house convinced the virus is made up while simultaneously being terrified of it.
Work that one out because I haven't got a fucking clue

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Doesn't want to get eaten by the lizard men or have his brain fried by the 5g.

 

[Grendel]

Let´s say you are sat next to two people. One is unvaxxed, the one on the other side is vaxxed.

The unvaxxed one had a test in the last 48 hours which proves they haven´t got the virus.

Which one are you most likely at risk from?

The unvaxxed one clearly has an issue with the vaccine policy and can engineer a negative result or could attract it 46 hours ago not 48 - not for me

 

[fernandopartridge]

I feel the same way - what's the point too if you can still contract the ol kung flu? How many more jabs do we need? We'll all become pin cushions

Because the vaccine is to protect you from the illness caused by the infection, what a stupid question

 

[COV]

Why are you making stuff up?

I said I didn´t want to wear a mask in an office for 8 hours. I wear one on the metro and in shops.

So you think that wearing a mask is more important than getting vaccinated?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Tbh I've a cousin who is firmly anti vax and swallows all the drivel about by experiments etc. I did my best to talk him round but all the reason in the world can't get through to someone who has accepted that nonsense in the first place.
As for the crass comment about over 80s or obese people being killed by it, just remember that a 35 year old poster who from here was killed by it last April with his partner pretty close to meeting the same fate as well

 

[wingy]

Can tell we're not near an election. Threaten to annoy and alienate their main support group.

But it's the Tories testing the waters as usual. There will be a backlash and they'll say it was never intended to happen.

Well it never would anyway.
Rediculous big stick, man's embarrassing on this one.

 

[baldy]

Tbh I've a cousin who is firmly anti vax and swallows all the drivel about by experiments etc. I did my best to talk him round but all the reason in the world can't get through to someone who has accepted that nonsense in the first place.
As for the crass comment about over 80s or obese people being killed by it, just remember that a 35 year old poster who from here was killed by it last April with his partner pretty close to meeting the same fate as well

So? The average age of people dying from it is 80 or over…one person aged 35 who died from it doesn’t change that (official) stat

 

[Grendel]

So? The average age of people dying from it is 80 or over…one person aged 35 who died from it doesn’t change that (official) stat

it also doesn’t change the fact he’s dead

 

[fernandopartridge]

So? The average age of people dying from it is 80 or over…one person aged 35 who died from it doesn’t change that (official) stat

Statistical averages don't change that it isn't just people over 80 dying. Regardless, death isn't the only outcome. The average age of somebody admitted to ICU is 53 which is hardly knocking on is it?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Surely you can't be serious

I am.

And the strange thing is i know what I'm saying is probably ridiculous to people, especially considering how vocal i was about getting the initial 2 jabs and how pleased i was when i got them

But i just dont see why for me. I was classed as vulnerable as im asthmatic, hence i had both jabs by may. I've also had my flu jab of course (every year)

But im just completely disillusioned by having a 'booster' of something that need 2 fucking jabs to fully work anyway. And 3 in the space of 9 months?

Id understand if it was targeting say the delta variant but its not, its the same that I've had 2 of. And id like to think at 31with my immune system, and the 2 jabs I've had should get me through.

If we're looking at yearly boosters sign me up. Something i have to have 3 of in less than a year doesnt sit right with me anymore.

Feel free to call me a twat

 

[fernandopartridge]

I am.

And the strange thing is i know what I'm saying is probably ridiculous to people, especially considering how vocal i was about getting the initial 2 jabs and how pleased i was when i got them

But i just dont see why for me. I was classed as vulnerable as im asthmatic, hence i had both jabs by may. I've also had my flu jab of course (every year)

But im just completely disillusioned by having a 'booster' of something that need 2 fucking jabs to fully work anyway. And 3 in the space of 9 months?

Id understand if it was targeting say the delta variant but its not, its the same that I've had 2 of. And id like to think at 31with my immune system, and the 2 jabs I've had should get me through.

If we're looking at yearly boosters sign me up. Something i have to have 3 of in less than a year doesnt sit right with me anymore.

Feel free to call me a twat

It's a pretty stupid logic tbh. The vaccines are brand new so they didn't know how long protection would sustain.

People in this country (despite it being governed by a load of pilfering bastards) are nevertheless incredibly fortunate to be offered a full course if the vaccine, it's mental that people turn it down. This winter is going to be very grim Indeed in places without the vaccine coverage we've got.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Statistical averages don't change that it isn't just people over 80 dying. Regardless, death isn't the only outcome. The average age of somebody admitted to ICU is 53 which is hardly knocking on is it?

It's not just deaths of course. My best mate's brother-in-law, younger than us, is still with us but was in hospital for a while, and it took him months to be able to get up the stairs again easily. Ironically he'd have been more load on the NHS, if we're protecting that, than if he'd croaked it.

 

[Saddlebrains]

It's a pretty stupid logic tbh. The vaccines are brand new so they didn't know how long protection would sustain.

People in this country (despite it being governed by a load of pilfering bastards) are nevertheless incredibly fortunate to be offered a full course if the vaccine, it's mental that people turn it down. This winter is going to be very grim Indeed in places without the vaccine coverage we've got.

Is it going to be grim? Cases dropping, more people vaccinated, more treatments in hospitals etc.

I mean its not going to be a walk in the park by any means but i cant see it being anywhere near the catastrophe that was last winter

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

So you think that wearing a mask is more important than getting vaccinated?

Ring of Steel in making things up in his head shocker.

 

[clint van damme]

Is it going to be grim? Cases dropping, more people vaccinated, more treatments in hospitals etc.

I mean its not going to be a walk in the park by any means but i cant see it being anywhere near the catastrophe that was last winter

reread the post, he said it will be grim in places without the coverage we have.
Therefore we need to keep our coverage up to prevent that happening here.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Why are you making stuff up?

I said I didn´t want to wear a mask in an office for 8 hours. I wear one on the metro and in shops.

Then why the fuck do you keep poking me, calling me scared if I want people to wear a mask on the train?!?

And also...

I felt naked the first time I went into a shop here without a mask, but it was also liberating.

I try to be respectful of other people, but to be honest I don't think about corona that much anymore. Doesn't feel like there is a lot I can do about it so I just get on with things without too much worry.

 

[shmmeee]

Let´s say you are sat next to two people. One is unvaxxed, the one on the other side is vaxxed.

The unvaxxed one had a test in the last 48 hours which proves they haven´t got the virus.

Which one are you most likely at risk from?

Statistically the vaccinated one. No PCR test proves you don’t have Covid right now, it proves you didn’t have it when you took the test.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I’d say the person who’s had the test in the last 48 hours.

Edit: No wait.

I mean you are most at risk from the person who’s been vaccinated I read it wrong. Ha ha

Negative test trumps everything in that situation for me.

Yes, that is correct.

The other thing you have to equate for is that people who have been vaccinated are more likely to show less or even no symptoms, meaning less chance of them isolating or getting tested. This could mean they could go to Grendel´s concert by accident when they already have the virus.

 

[shmmeee]

So? The average age of people dying from it is 80 or over…one person aged 35 who died from it doesn’t change that (official) stat

Just admit you’re scared of needles FFS.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Is it going to be grim? Cases dropping, more people vaccinated, more treatments in hospitals etc.

I mean its not going to be a walk in the park by any means but i cant see it being anywhere near the catastrophe that was last winter

Did you read my post? It is going to be grim in places without the vaccine coverage we have here.