Coronavirus (4 Viewers)

[Nick]

Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

 

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[SkyBlueDom26]

Im just glad my job is safe, can't begin to imagine the hardship some people will be going through with money and bills and jobs

Shows communities need to come together

 

[Ring Of Steel]

very good shout. I can’t disagree. I’ve heard talk about online teaching which could happen in due course

Ps there is no doubt they will close schools/ban larger social gatherings but just not yet.

He is dead right- I know that right now every single bus, train and plane is being disinfected & cleaned, while schools are closed they are all being thoroughly scrubbed & cleaned down, and I had to spend bloody hours setting up 'webinars' for my kids to have lessons over a week ago. The comparison is stark.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

up to 72 hours on some surfaces i think

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

up to 72 hours on some surfaces i think

The evidence from SARS is that viable virus is not detectable after drying onto an absorbent surface such as paper. There is no reason to suppose that this coronavirus will behave any differently.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Grand Princess cruise British couple tell of 'terrifying flight' home | Daily Mail Online

Yeah its the daily mail (Don't get ya knickers in a twist lefties) But look how crazy this looks!!!

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

People ask "why is the UK so different from everywhere employing more drastic measures?".
The answer to that may be "Why has the UK suffered MUCH less from the impacts of SARS, MERS-CoV, swine flu and avian flu than many other comparable countries?" - beacuse of the expert epidemiological modelling and getting people to do the right thing at the appropriate time. We are (or used to be, before the virus of social media) a largely compliant nation. If people go off and do their own thing, the models will go wrong. We need to trust in the experts (Boris is only a mouthpiece).

 

[clint van damme]

People ask "why is the UK so different from everywhere employing more drastic measures?".
The answer to that may be "Why has the UK suffered MUCH less from the impacts of SARS, MERS-CoV, swine flu and avian flu than many other comparable countries?" - beacuse of the expert epidemiological modelling and getting people to do the right thing at the appropriate time. We are (or used to be, before the virus of social media) a largely compliant nation. If people go off and do their own thing, the models will go wrong. We need to trust in the experts (Boris is only a mouthpiece).

I thought we'd had enough of experts? Wish these Tories would make their minds up!

 

[dazed&confused]

Yes maybe you're right, after all the country's Prime Minister has a great track record of always doing whats right, of being clear and transparent and always has the very best & most ethical advisors around him.

When did this become a political thing?

 

[clint van damme]

When did this become a political thing?

Pretty much everything that happens in.life is political.
If the UK handles this well do you not think the government will take the credit?

Similarly, if it goes badly, they'll get a kick in.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Can’t stand Boris but he’s bang on with this

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Whats your point?

 

[David O'Day]

Yes you're right, everyone else is wrong, they don't have the benefit of our British superiority in these areas.

It it was everyone else saying what you are saying you'd have a point

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[Ring Of Steel]

It it was everyone else saying what you are saying you'd have a point

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lol, I know you aren't that stupid so you carry on with your crusade

 

[Ian1779]

They can close the schools if they want but teachers should still be able to attend other people are having to try to carry on we had two cases at work last night, they didn’t say close the building we had to work on.

What about every teacher with a child?

 

[David O'Day]

lol, I know you aren't that stupid so you carry on with your crusade

So you are saying all other experts are critical of the ul. This is not true.

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[skybluetony176]

Whats your point?

I think he’s pointing out that swine flu hit in Obama’s first year of his first term as president so he had little time to change anything whereas the corona virus has hit in Trumps last year of his first term so he’s had over three years to address this but hasn’t. It’s a criticism of Trump. Right Dom?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

More than 100,000 people in the US state of Ohio are likely to have the coronavirus, its health department director has said.

Speaking at a news conference with Governor Mike DeWine, Amy Acton confirmed there was community spread of the virus in the state.

"We know now just the fact of community spread says that at least 1%, at the very least, 1% of our population is carrying this virus in Ohio today," she said.

"We have 11.7 million people. So the math is over 100,000. So that just gives you a sense of how this virus spreads and is spreading quickly."

Ohio currently has five confirmed cases and 52 under investigation, but - as with the rest of the US - has so far carried out a limited number of tests.

Fucking hell

 

[Marty]

My employers are doing their bit, we've just been told to carry on as normal, if ill, stay home and you will be paid fully, any time off will not go on your record, won't even need to self certify for first 14 days, I hope everyone else's employers are being so generous.

 

[skybluetony176]

The irony of this though is that people like Trump were labelling swine flu as fake news, accusing the media of over hyping it etc. just like Trump has this time.

 

[Cov City Daytrader 87]

CORONA VIRUS EXCLUSIVE: WHY ITALY? - AltNewsMedia

There's also a video from Euronews that go goes with the article.

 

[fatso]

People ask "why is the UK so different from everywhere employing more drastic measures?".
The answer to that may be "Why has the UK suffered MUCH less from the impacts of SARS, MERS-CoV, swine flu and avian flu than many other comparable countries?" - beacuse of the expert epidemiological modelling and getting people to do the right thing at the appropriate time. We are (or used to be, before the virus of social media) a largely compliant nation. If people go off and do their own thing, the models will go wrong. We need to trust in the experts (Boris is only a mouthpiece).

For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Phalidamide,
Y2K
Gulf war1
Gulf war2
SARS
Foot and mouth
Blue tongue
The uk will never vote for Brexit.
Etc etc etc. All things that experts got fantastically wrong.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Iran's security forces to clear city streets in next 24 hours

Iran's state news agency reports security forces are to clear the streets in cities in the next 24 hours in the fight against coronavirus.

The death toll in the country has reached 514 amid 11,364 confirmed cases.

Iran not fucking about

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

My employers are doing their bit, we've just been told to carry on as normal, if ill, stay home and you will be paid fully, any time off will not go on your record, won't even need to self certify for first 14 days, I hope everyone else's employers are being so generous.

Who?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Phalidamide,
Y2K
Gulf war1
Gulf war2
SARS
Foot and mouth
Blue tongue
The uk will never vote for Brexit.
Etc etc etc. All things that experts got fantastically wrong.

Not all experts

 

[Deleted member 5849]

For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Phalidamide,
Y2K
Gulf war1
Gulf war2
SARS
Foot and mouth
Blue tongue
The uk will never vote for Brexit.
Etc etc etc. All things that experts got fantastically wrong.

You still listen to the people who've trained for years and have masses of experience in a subject ahead of the bloke down the pub, as the experts will be far more likely to get it right.

 

[bezzer]

Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

From the WHO -

It is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days. This may vary under different conditions (e.g. type of surface, temperature or humidity of the environment).

 

[shmmeee]

Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

I did see somewhere package delivery is OK. Why I’m not sure but apparently they were relying on delivery drivers in China during lockdown.

 

[Nick]

I did see somewhere package delivery is OK. Why I’m not sure but apparently they were relying on delivery drivers in China during lockdown.

It's then touching screens to sign for stuff. Not everybody will go and wash their hands straight away before they can touch their face.

Would have thought that delivery drivers themselves are at risk of having it and taking it into every business / home they deliver too.

 

[shmmeee]

It's then touching screens to sign for stuff. Not everybody will go and wash their hands straight away before they can touch their face.

Would have thought that delivery drivers themselves are at risk of having it and taking it into every business / home they deliver too.

Got an email from Deliveroo saying they were offering no contact drop offs now, seems sensible. About to do an Amazon Prime order so will see if they do the same.

 

[Nick]

Got an email from Deliveroo saying they were offering no contact drop offs now, seems sensible. About to do an Amazon Prime order so will see if they do the same.

Amazon drivers rarely know what day it is.

I have had a couple of deliveries today and had to sign for them both.

 

[fatso]

You still listen to the people who've trained for years and have masses of experience in a subject ahead of the bloke down the pub, as the experts will be far more likely to get it right.

Errrr. But they don’t get it right, That’s my point.
Just to prove my point, I’ll bump this post in 3 months time, and you will see what I mean.

 

[ccfc92]

My employers are doing their bit, we've just been told to carry on as normal, if ill, stay home and you will be paid fully, any time off will not go on your record, won't even need to self certify for first 14 days, I hope everyone else's employers are being so generous.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

What about every teacher with a child?

I believe the word is tough other people will have to cope, I work permanently on nights so we can manage holidays etc.