Ah yeah, because I said "That makes it perfectly ok for SISU to it". It was quite clearly taking the piss wasn't it? Christ.
Did you really think it was serious?
Is it? Is it really? How?
You're making excuses for them in the same way my 5 year old does so I'll give you the same reply.
"If CCC jumped in a fire would SISU do it"
Grow up.
Forgot to say. You didn't put your usual winking �� man. So yes its clear you were being serious.
A bit like "unencumbered freehold" or "ACL is very profitable without Coventry City"? I'm sure those lines have never been regurgitated on here.
I was quite clearly taking the piss? It was quite clearly not me actually making an excuse for anybody.
If you say so
Is it? Is it really? How?
You can be as angry as you like about this but at least she's got grace enough to put her hands up when she's been caught out. That's more than you can say about SISU. They just keep going with the same line. In my eyes that's even worse. They think we're stupid enough to keep buying that line otherwise why would they keep regurgitating it?
The story has been updated with more quotes now if anyone is interested. You can read them at the same url now:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/council-admits-ricoh-arena-not-8451492
She added: "It was never likely that ACL would be able to replace this loss of revenue overnight. In addition to losing rental income from the club, ACL was also been faced with a significant level of additional expenditure required to protect its position through the various legal challenges it has faced during this period."However, councillors recognised the transition that ACL would need to make in order to be viable without the Sky Blues back when making the decision to refinance the loan to ACL in January 2013 when this first looked a possibility.
"The decision taken then, and reiterated by me in the subsequent months, demonstrated our confidence in the underlying business and the ability of ACL to generate new revenues to be able to flourish and continue to provide a world class sports and entertainment venue for the people of Coventry preferably with, but if not then without, the Sky Blues.
There are a few that could have been called very pro-CCC/Higgs over the whole saga, such as Chiefdave, Duffer, James Smith, who(though always well argued) were very vociferous in their defence.
Since the whole Wasps saga has come about they've come to the realisation that all wasn't maybe as painted by the main protaganists and have looked at the whole thing more objectively, not as a "Sisu" or "ACL/Higgs/CCC" 100% black and white issue.
Fair play to them for that, shown that their views on franchising, supporting local clubs and communities etc are genuine and not just thrown out to make some sort of point.
Wonder why some can't look at things in the same manner.
That's the thing and I think when people are like that you can't help but take notice can you?
Surely when grendel said that he had no way to see into the future, where as ccc could easily see how their busiNess was gOing money on month. Do businesses really only check the money situation once a year?
I ran a small business, I could quite easily tell you how much it would damage if I lost a certain client. Surely a big company with proper accountants and actual business people could see that?
Its the same as sisu would have known in the first month at sixfields how much damage it was doing.
Me and my friends had a great day, went down the gym for a bit, a swim.Well you and your friends are not having a great day are you?
Incidentally my comment was based on the assumption the company would be sold on the same terms - namely £12 million and the loan for a 40 year lease. The subsequent fire sale was not in the equation and does prove the half share really was worthless on the terms they were really offered.
Lucas says there were no concerns the tax payer loan would not be repayed. Unfortunately for Lucas her credibility is now in the rubbish bin. Her ability for duplicity and total disregard for the implications of her actions make her unfit for purpose.
The irony if course is for duplicity, disregard for customers, arrogance and sheer incompetence she makes dear old Tim and Joy seem amateurs in the game.
A tear is forming as I speak - I'm so proud.
Me and my friends had a great day, went down the gym for a bit, a swim.
They had to be in for 5 for their tea though
I notice it has gone from football club she loves etc to a sports franchise though.
Not only a lying hypocrite, but an unintelligent fucktard to boot!!
Easy to tell the truth after the fact. She's stitched us up, excuse me if I don't congratulate her on being honest now.
Are you related to Ann? That is nearly as uncomfortable as her U Turn.
tony is having the worst day of his life poor chap
I was being sarcastic, surely you recognized the winking man.
I'll leave the U turning up to you.
Seppala and Fisher bith made it quite clear that they wanted the unencumbered freehold. Wasps were happy to acquire a leasehold interest.I'm sure that CCC and that hag Lucas know full well that CCFC would have snapped their hands off for the chance to purchase it for £5.54M.
Not really. I'm finding it really funny seeing all these posters who struggle to muster up a sentence of criticism towards our owners despite their obvious failings now real essays of over this.
hill83 said:Sisu are cunts
I didn't say you should. Just pointing out that she at least has enough grace to put her hands up when caught out. Unlike you know who.
Are you gonna put your hand up and accept you've been a bit gullible accepting any of the tall tales to come out of the council house?
Not really. I'm finding it really funny seeing all these posters who struggle to muster up a
sentence of criticism towards our owners despite their obvious failings now real essays of over this.
It wouldn't have been a good deal without ccfc getting back paying rent and bringing in punters. With ccfc back ACL are close to cash flow neutral - then add the revenues and sponsor deals Wasps bring in themselves.
So the question still not answered: Was ccfc brought back to secure the deal with Wasps?
It looks plausible.
And see how eloquently the question is avoided and yet actually in a backward way proves my suspicion:Was it councillors' understanding when agreeing to the deal that the Wasps' business case was predicated on double occupancy, and CCFC remaining as tenants?
(Read more: Did Coventry council leader Lucas mislead taxpayers over Ricoh? | Coventry Observer )ANSWER: "CCFC do remain as tenants of ACL under the terms of a licence agreement they signed with ACL which remains in force. ACL’s business case will of course include this."
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