Unlike the published rants of PWKH or the ACL propaganda issued by London PR firm Webber Shandwick?
All sides have put forward their own views at various stages and all have been reported.
Sure, if ACL had submitted documents slating the owners you'd be salivating.
well they have had to use their own means on Limited occasions as I dont think Ive heard the CWR lot look at this from anywhere other than SISUS viewpoint everUnlike the published rants of PWKH or the ACL propaganda issued by London PR fiWell rm Webber Shandwick?
All sides have put forward their own views at various stages and all have been reported.
What maybe like you have since alleged scoop ?
I'm saying nothing lets see what the courts say shall we?
Unlike the published rants of PWKH or the ACL propaganda issued by London PR firm Webber Shandwick?
All sides have put forward their own views at various stages and all have been reported.
So lets get this straight.
SISU screwed ACL over by not paying the rent.
Then they were going to go to the bank and purchase ACL's mortgage at a reduced rate.
It would be like me refusing to pay rent on a house I lived in ,refusing to move out then when the landlord couldn't afford me not paying anymore getting the house for a knock down price from the bank.
I would love to know how this is legal. Have any precedents ever been set ?
These people all seem like a bunch of charlatans who will do anything to turn a quick buck .
Does anyone honestly think that if they do manage to get half the stadium that they will invest anything in the football club. We are in the worst position that I can ever remember
We have known this for a long time now - nothing new. I think OSB was first to figure this out 6-7 months ago.
The news is that sisu claim this was a joint plan with CCC/ACL.
In which case 'The Charlatans' include quite a few more than just sisu.
And why wouldn't it be legal?
Immoral no doubt, but isn't that just capitalism in its purest form?
didnt chris coleman say we had the most left footed players he has ever seen in one club ? :thinking about::thinking about:
Let's suppose that SISU's claims are all true.
Effectively SISU are saying "we colluded with a bank creditor to default on a loan in order to buy the loan back cheaply from the bank". First, if true, and if this had actually happened, then surely the bank would have had legal recourse to the courts. I am not a lawyer but I would be surprised if a collusive deal between ACL and SISU to default on the bank loan would have been legal.
How on earth SISU expect this to stand up in court, goodness only knows. "We made a (possibly illegal) verbal agreement with ACL that they later reneged on" - I don't think that is going to look good in court.
Further, even if that was the plan and it was in fact legal, why on earth would the bank merrily sell the loan to SISU at a discounted rate. Surely the bank would have put ACL into administration and then gone after SISU for non-payment of rent. In other words, the collusive agreement was flawed in conception even if it was not actually illegal as it presumed extreme stupidity on behalf of the bank.
All of the above is giving SISU the benefit of the doubt that its claims are true. Possibly the claims are true. Nevertheless, I don't think that that is going to be enough to get a judicial review.
on a personal note .......
Under the comments there is a contributor called "oldskyblue" .......... just want to make it clear that poster is nothing at all to do with me. I do not contribute to the CT forum and never have.
on a personal note .......
OSB58. I have a question for you. One I would hope you to ponder and reply to at some point.
I have read your comments and analysis of goings on for over a year. I have found your thoughts to be most informative and, I have on almost every single occasion agreed with your comments in total.
Surely SISU read these pages, how/why? Would they persist in their actions if you have as seems highly likely, trumped and exposed their next move, weeks before they make it.
As, already stated, I believe you are on the money. So, are they dumb?, hope a judge can't drive goggle. Or could it possibly be that you/we are way off the mark and more nefarious acts are still a foot?
hope a judge can't drive goggle.
Does anyone honestly think that if they do manage to get half the stadium that they will invest anything in the football club. We are in the worst position that I can ever remember
But no one knows and we will never know. The hysterical have always suggested that if the Club - and I'm talking about CCFC - got half the stadium then they would close down Coventry City, etc etc. That scenario only existed in the feverish imaginations of posters on here. Some even wrote to the Council saying "don't let the football club I support get hold of the one thing that will guarantee it's future", all because of their hate of the owners.
We are in the worst position because many people and organisations including Richardson, McGinnity, SISU and ACL have let the club down and only thought about themselves. And they've been given a helping hand by quite a few City fans along the way.
This could suggest the rent strike was part of the plan.
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Torch what a load of rubbish you are now blaming ccfc fans now for the state the club is in.
I thought all ACL had to do was say:Let's suppose that SISU's claims are all true.
Effectively SISU are saying "we colluded with a bank creditor to default on a loan in order to buy the loan back cheaply from the bank". First, if true, and if this had actually happened, then surely the bank would have had legal recourse to the courts. I am not a lawyer but I would be surprised if a collusive deal between ACL and SISU to default on the bank loan would have been legal.
How on earth SISU expect this to stand up in court, goodness only knows. "We made a (possibly illegal) verbal agreement with ACL that they later reneged on" - I don't think that is going to look good in court.
Further, even if that was the plan and it was in fact legal, why on earth would the bank merrily sell the loan to SISU at a discounted rate. Surely the bank would have put ACL into administration and then gone after SISU for non-payment of rent. In other words, the collusive agreement was flawed in conception even if it was not actually illegal as it presumed extreme stupidity on behalf of the bank.
All of the above is giving SISU the benefit of the doubt that its claims are true. Possibly the claims are true. Nevertheless, I don't think that that is going to be enough to get a judicial review.
But no one knows and we will never know. The hysterical have always suggested that if the Club - and I'm talking about CCFC - got half the stadium then they would close down Coventry City, etc etc. That scenario only existed in the feverish imaginations of posters on here. Some even wrote to the Council saying "don't let the football club I support get hold of the one thing that will guarantee it's future", all because of their hate of the owners.
We are in the worst position because many people and organisations including Richardson, McGinnity, SISU and ACL have let the club down and only thought about themselves. And they've been given a helping hand by quite a few City fans along the way.
Torch what a load of rubbish you are now blaming ccfc fans now for the state the club is in.
I personally want the stadium and club unified but would only want the current owners to have it if it was tied to covenants stopping them from ever splitting it from the club or placing massive mortgages against it.
Somehow i don't think Sisu would accept that kind of deal !!!!!!
Accusations from a man who has said on this very forum that..."One of the reasons I go to home games is because my father pays for the car park otherwise I wouldn't bother going."
SISU have reneged on buying the stadium on three different occasions Reneged on paying the rent, reneged on the "Header".........................
No,not blaming fans. Just saying some were short sighted in writing to Mutton begging him not sell to the Club.
Covenants are a great idea, but again not one that those opposed to CCFC a slice of the Ricoh have mentioned. They are just blindly against it.
You were talking to I think Grenduffy and another poster at the time last year cba looking back over the last 12 months..but you definately said it mate, and No I won't Fuck off!!!:slap:
Some of the loudest shouters for SISu are now the loudest against.
Some of the loudest shouters for Haskell don't want to find out anything about him.
Of course it was Godiva.....ACL were deliberately letting SISU put them out of business over the last 12 months, then attempt to put SISU into Administration(Which SISU did themselves) and CCC, have them to bail them out over mortgage repayments.....Yes that's the answer Godiva...you f**king Muppet!!!
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