Johhny Blue
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He was moving (correctly) into a position to head it back. When he got there Collin’s was out of position (and his area) Kitching had no chance to react differently. I’m not a Collins hater but this one was all his.
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Johhny Blue
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Not even close to what happened. Kitching had plenty of time & legs . He even had time to look back and be sure he had enough time and space. When he looked back to head it Collin’s was in his face. 100% Collins’ mistake.
Mucca Mad Boys
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This is true and I’m not defending Collins here at all. Kitching certainly could have hoofed the ball away and he didn’t.
Don’t get me wrong, Collins has to either stay in his box or be willing to hoof it straight away and did neither. It was hopeless goalkeeping… It’s also true that Kitching could’ve smashed the ball into the stands if there was any confusion caused.
When the team reviews the footage, they won’t be saying it’s 100% Collins fault because it’s not.
We’re not too far away from being a top championship team, but we really need to stop conceding poor goals. It happened against Leeds too.
MalcSB
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He could learn quite a lot from Alessia Russo in terms of being effective upfront.
Mucca Mad Boys
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I’m sorry but Kitching definitely could’ve done better. He had no idea where Anthony was because if he did, Kitch doesn’t move out of the way and probably wallops the ball out. If we’re being hyper critical, MVE doesn’t block his man either - this buys an extra second or two for the GK/Kitch.
Whenever we concede a goal, there’s this annoying insistence that there must be a nominated scapegoat who owns all the blame.
Collins doesn’t give me any confidence and his shortcomings have been done to death. The coaching team will definitely be looking at areas where Kitch and MVE could’ve done better as well.
Johhny Blue
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How did you measure up?
Johhny Blue
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If he (Kitching) did that when he had the chance the fans would have rightly questioned why he panicked when he could have just headed back to Collins. Collins took the decision away from him.
Johhny Blue
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He looked behind him to check Anthony’s position just before Collins charged him. He was clear snd had time and space if Collins had hung back.
The only blame I hang on Kitching is the soft shot that went through his legs.
fingers_crossed
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I was thinking more about 1 minute after half time than during. Dabo should get a cheer.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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If collins stays in his box we don't concede the goal, some gymnastics going on to try and defend him here.
Kitching should not have put any trust in the keeper and just dealt with it, kitching ends up leaving the ball and it kind of just hits collins legs and ends up with an open goal for the burnley player
Kitching should not have put any trust in the keeper and just dealt with it, kitching ends up leaving the ball and it kind of just hits collins legs and ends up with an open goal for the burnley player
Johhny Blue
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First sentence is ok. The second is all wrong.
Para1140
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Now I know where I remember this c**t from.
Cheat and never stepped down until he was found out. Says it all that he supports those wankers
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HungarySkyBlue
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Now I've calmed down, we need to do some big investments in summer,
We need a new left back , goalkeeper, cm, we may even need a new center back for some experience, but our main weakness in this team is 100% the left side, how many goals do we concede from there? Whether it be bidwell being too narrow or da Silva being too high, they're just not good enough for this league in a promotion chasing side.
We need a new left back , goalkeeper, cm, we may even need a new center back for some experience, but our main weakness in this team is 100% the left side, how many goals do we concede from there? Whether it be bidwell being too narrow or da Silva being too high, they're just not good enough for this league in a promotion chasing side.
You can go back & forth over who is at fault for the 2nd goal but it’s clear Collins makes the defence nervous. Big call for lamps on Wednesday on who to go with now as I assume he prefers Collins over Wilson as he is better with his feet and helps with the build up but a keepers most important job is to stop goals for me.
My biggest take away from yesterday was how average that Burnley team looked in comparison to Leeds & Sheff Utd. I left those games thinking their was a clear gulf in class between us, but as frustrated as I was with the result yesterday (defensive errors & a Burnley fan referring the game) I wouldn’t be be so sure they are a shoe in to win the play offs if they end up in 3rd spot.
My biggest take away from yesterday was how average that Burnley team looked in comparison to Leeds & Sheff Utd. I left those games thinking their was a clear gulf in class between us, but as frustrated as I was with the result yesterday (defensive errors & a Burnley fan referring the game) I wouldn’t be be so sure they are a shoe in to win the play offs if they end up in 3rd spot.
Wow... Didn't get to watch the game yesterday after watching the highlights I'm wondering if we wanted to wrap the game up with a little bow on top for them cause what a fucking gift... I have Collins at fault for both goals, piss poor decision making similar to what was costing us earlier on in the season. Beyond that it looks a pretty even game.
Tommo1993
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Yes I did watch. And I saw he’s not great with the ball at his feet. Last week at Bramall Ln he didn’t want the ball, quite the same yesterday.
I know none of our midfield three played well yesterday but I thought Torp was especially poor when he came on
Nuskyblue
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Kitching was in control of the situation, there is absolutely no need for the keeper to come out here. He should be dropping and making an angle for kitching to make a pass
Nuskyblue
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He does have pressure, his own goalkeeper closing down his space like a maniac.
I suppose Barnsley will do that to you...
Gynnsthetonic
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99 times out of 100 it's a simple nod back to the goalie unless your keeper is Incompetent
Gint11
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100% I don’t rate Collins as much as the next fan and he shouldn’t have come racing out. It was Kitchings to deal with. Bang it into row Z or whatever, it’s his to deal with.
Gynnsthetonic
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Not wanting the ball and not great with your feet are two different things. We'll agree to disagree
Adge
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I’m afraid it’s down to communication-if Collins shouts “clear” it’s leathered into the stand by Kitching and the danger is gone. What the he’ll is he doing out that far anyway?
Look at the first goal and Collins goes for a walk about then aswell-thought he was off to talk to the assistant!
Look at the first goal and Collins goes for a walk about then aswell-thought he was off to talk to the assistant!
Sorry that is on Collins. He’s facing the play also.
he kills kitching.
1st goal also Collins decision making is horrific.
he’s shot to pieces. Can’t play him
Nuskyblue
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I'm not sure.
From Kitchings point of view an aimless ball goes over his shoulder, chases back, not under huge pressure he's probably gonna do just that. Then he sees his GK coming and he probably thinks "oh jolly nice, I can nod it back to him, what a lovely fellow" but the goalie doesn't stop, he is now out of his area and Kitching is thinking "well where the fuck do I go now and what do I do?".
Gint11
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He’s not faultless but I disgree. It’s kitchings to deal with
Speedies_Chips
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People keep saying Dabo cost us a place in the Premier League. Even if he had scored, it's quite feasible that the next person to have stepped up would have missed.
Gint11
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I agree it muddies the water and with Collins coming it, it confuses kitch but in the first part of this, it’s kitchings to deal with. Collins shouldn’t have ran out but if kitch smashes that into the stands or something, it’s dealt with.
Tommo1993
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I’m not using it as a reason that he’s poor with the ball. But he is poor with the ball.
Balli001
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The first goal 4 defenders went to 1 forward and left one unmarked 6 yards out
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Gynnsthetonic
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That's your opinion which is obviously different to mine
Gynnsthetonic
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Yes saw that, like a junior school football team!