Match Thread Coventry City - Cardiff City Match Thread - Saturday 30th Nov (20 Viewers)

FergieTheFinisher

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Guys, I think we need to keep our shit together now and stop the talk of relegation battles.

Result is massively disappointing, yet again we performed worse than our xg of 2.27 and Cardiff did so much better than their 0.72. Defensively we are currently rubbish when not in possession and the goals we keep conceding are not from great chances but poor goalkeeping and defensive positioning and individual mistakes. FL will see this and we’ve got a week before next game to work on this. Personally I would bin Collins and start using Dovin. He is a far better reactive shot stopper than Collins. Bidders would give a bit more steel in LB.

This is largely fixable with good coaching, and Jan window can hopefully fix what is not.
 

Ashdown

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The problem is ladies and gents is that we somehow have landed ourselves with a bang average bunch of players who……
Can’t really defend
Are toothless in midfield
And without Haji are pathetic up front
The signings we made in the summer again look very overrated 🤷‍♂️
 

nicksar

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Our whole setup was baffling. For a new manager to come in & within 48 hours try & reinvent the wheel is naïve to say the least. It was difficult to even see what the plan was.
Reinvent the wheel?......which one?,we haven't had the team set up in the same shape from one game to the next all season under MR.
 

djr8369

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It didn't look like the players knew. We were so lopsided with an inverted left back, traditional right back. Eccles clearly unsure what he was supposed to be doing. Rudoni wide leaving us out numbered in central midfield. It was horrid.
I was scratching my head as to why Rodin was so often higher up the pitch than EMC.

Maybe it’s like Frostie said and tweaked too much at once and players left unsure. Certainly looked lost.
 

MillwallFan

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Millwall fan here (hence the user name). Just joined your forum to give your supporters some hope in your match against us next Saturday.

For a while now you seem to have been our bogey side, and our record against you hasn’t been good. After today’s performance against an extremely poor Oxford United side, I genuinely believe you’ll get your first win against us under Lampard.

Neil Harris is Mr. Millwall. He loves, lives and breathes our club, and as a motivator of players he’s second to none, but at the moment he does have a blind spot when it comes to picking one particular player over better in form ones. That player is our 5’9 striker (and I use the term “striker” very loosely) Tom Bradshaw. Now Tom gives us 100% commitment but unfortunately that isn’t enough in today’s fast paced Championship. We have better strikers in Langstaff and Ivanovic who have been sitting warming the bench in recent games, and as they have only been coming on in the 89th minute in a last ditch attempt to turn a loss into a draw, or a draw into a win, I’ll be expecting to see them come on when Coventry are in the ascendancy.

You haven’t won in 5 and we’ve gone 9 games unbeaten so something has to give and we’re a side that‘s great to play against when an opposition team haven’t won for a few games. We will have our influential centre half Japhet Tanganga suspended for your game, and we’re also missing our other centre half, Jake Cooper, who’s out for around 10 weeks with an injury, so your strikers will have an easy game running through our patched up CH pairing on Saturday.

You will also have a spy in your camp in Lampard’s No. 2, Joe Edwards, who was our manager for a 19 game spell last season, so I’m sure he’ll be giving Frankie boy the low down on our strengths and weaknesses, and let’s face it: what former manager doesn’t like getting one over on a former club with a good performance and a win against them? Then there’s also the vermin (West Ham) connection with Lampard who previously played for them, so getting his first win and over “the old enemy” will, I’m sure, have him beaming from ear to ear come 5pm on Saturday.

I’m telling you boys, it’s a nailed on certainty for you picking up 3 points. No need to thank me now, you can all thank and gloat at me when I come back on this forum Saturday evening, trying desperately to defend our sh#t show against you.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Our whole setup was baffling. For a new manager to come in & within 48 hours try & reinvent the wheel is naïve to say the least. It was difficult to even see what the plan was.
Pretty clear in the second half the players had no idea what they were doing.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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The problem is ladies and gents is that we somehow have landed ourselves with a bang average bunch of players who……
Can’t really defend
Are toothless in midfield
And without Haji are pathetic up front
The signings we made in the summer again look very overrated 🤷‍♂️

when I said a while ago our squad wasn’t actually much better or stronger I was laughed at, but this is entirely true, we have lost two or three good to very good players, and have simply replaced them in the main with dross

we don’t have a bad squad and they are definitely better than their current position but we need to invest in quality if we are serious about a promotion push, all well and good talking about it but put your money where your mouth is now
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Millwall fan here (hence the user name). Just joined your forum to give your supporters some hope in your match against us next Saturday.

For a while now you seem to have been our bogey side, and our record against you hasn’t been good. After today’s performance against an extremely poor Oxford United side, I genuinely believe you’ll get your first win against us under Lampard.

Neil Harris is Mr. Millwall. He loves, lives and breathes our club, and as a motivator of players he’s second to none, but at the moment he does have a blind spot when it comes to picking one particular player over better in form ones. That player is our 5’9 striker (and I use the term “striker” very loosely) Tom Bradshaw. Now Tom gives us 100% commitment but unfortunately that isn’t enough in today’s fast paced Championship. We have better strikers in Langstaff and Ivanovic who have been sitting warming the bench in recent games, and as they have only been coming on in the 89th minute in a last ditch attempt to turn a loss into a draw, or a draw into a win, I’ll be expecting to see them come on when Coventry are in the ascendancy.

You haven’t won in 5 and we’ve gone 9 games unbeaten so something has to give and we’re a side that‘s great to play against when an opposition team haven’t won for a few games. We will have our influential centre half Japhet Tanganga suspended for your game, and we’re also missing our other centre half, Jake Cooper, who’s out for around 10 weeks with an injury, so your strikers will have an easy game running through our patched up CH pairing on Saturday.

You will also have a spy in your camp in Lampard’s No. 2, Joe Edwards, who was our manager for a 19 game spell last season, so I’m sure he’ll be giving Frankie boy the low down on our strengths and weaknesses, and let’s face it: what former manager doesn’t like getting one over on a former club with a good performance and a win against them? Then there’s also the vermin (West Ham) connection with Lampard who previously played for them, so getting his first win and over “the old enemy” will, I’m sure, have him beaming from ear to ear come 5pm on Saturday.

I’m telling you boys, it’s a nailed on certainty for you picking up 3 points. No need to thank me now, you can all thank and gloat at me when I come back on this forum Saturday evening, trying desperately to defend our sh#t show against you.
If you'd watched the CCFC derby today, you'd see how unlikely this is.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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It’s always a green flag when a manager is talking sense about the game and agree with what he said about it.

Guys, I think we need to keep our shit together now and stop the talk of relegation battles.

Result is massively disappointing, yet again we performed worse than our xg of 2.27 and Cardiff did so much better than their 0.72. Defensively we are currently rubbish when not in possession and the goals we keep conceding are not from great chances but poor goalkeeping and defensive positioning and individual mistakes. FL will see this and we’ve got a week before next game to work on this. Personally I would bin Collins and start using Dovin. He is a far better reactive shot stopper than Collins. Bidders would give a bit more steel in LB.

This is largely fixable with good coaching, and Jan window can hopefully fix what is not.

Game state is important here. Cardiff scored a low xG chance because of poor defenders giving a player that much time and space whereas we equalised with a penalty which is a high xG chance.

Teams don’t need to create a lot of xG against us because we’re always conceding soft goals early in halves. Particularly at home and in sick of seeing away fans cheer easy goals at our place!
 

Ring Of Steel

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The 35 year old in a 60 year old's body aka Barry Bannan was the best player on the pitch by some distance. We were outplayed by them, pure and simple.

if you define outplaying someone as having less possession, shots, shots on target, corners, shots saved than the team you “outplayed”, then not sure what to say to you. Deliriously negative.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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if you define outplaying someone as having less possession, shots, shots on target, corners, shots saved than the team you “outplayed”, then not sure what to say to you. Deliriously negative.
Because I watched the game. Possession is the most meaningless statistic in football for a start.

We deserved to lose the game handsomely.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Because I watched the game. Possession is the most meaningless statistic in football for a start.

We deserved to lose the game handsomely.

We had the better chances even without the penalty. The second half was just v frustrating to watch but thought he could’ve went 2-1 up before the half. The xG stats at least indicated we created more and better chances than Cardiff did - ofc they didn’t need to if they go up 5m in the first half and 2 in the 2nd half!

We struggle to breakdown teams that put 10 men behind the ball. We just don’t move teams around and we’re the opposite defensively - how easily we’re pulled apart for their 2nd.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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We had the better chances even without the penalty. The second half was just v frustrating to watch but thought he could’ve went 2-1 up before the half. The xG stats at least indicated we created more and better chances than Cardiff did - ofc they didn’t need to if they go up 5m in the first half and 2 in the 2nd half!

We struggle to breakdown teams that put 10 men behind the ball. We just don’t move teams around and we’re the opposite defensively - how easily we’re pulled apart for their 2nd.
Sorry MMB, that answer was in relation to the Sheff W game.
 

djr8369

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Guys, I think we need to keep our shit together now and stop the talk of relegation battles.

Result is massively disappointing, yet again we performed worse than our xg of 2.27 and Cardiff did so much better than their 0.72. Defensively we are currently rubbish when not in possession and the goals we keep conceding are not from great chances but poor goalkeeping and defensive positioning and individual mistakes. FL will see this and we’ve got a week before next game to work on this. Personally I would bin Collins and start using Dovin. He is a far better reactive shot stopper than Collins. Bidders would give a bit more steel in LB.

This is largely fixable with good coaching, and Jan window can hopefully fix what is not.
Agree with a lot of this. We are still playing ourselves into dead ends with our ponderous build up play. Eventually the ball ends up wide with a lone player against 3 defenders. No support, no runs off the ball.

Only success in second half came from hopeful balls up to Simms yet there were only a couple of them.

Dovin is most gifted keeper we have but young behind a suspect defence. Give him the experience he needs.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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One thing we have to look at is giving Milan a run on the bench. Not sure if he’s tired, confidence gone or not arsed but something has to give.

Looking at the squad and the manager wants, might be worth throwing Josh Eccles back to right back, just till Milan gets his head together
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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My bad, ignore me then and hopefully you agree with me on my take of today’s game!

As for Sheff W, we got beat on the xG front and couldn’t lay a glove on them so whilst we had possession and what not, it played into their hands.
I certainly do. Despite apparently being 'deliriously negative', it's not just me who shares my view of that and other games.
 

skybluegod

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After the 4 hour drive home, I have got over my initial disappointment. It wasn't a good performance defensively again.

And as much as I like binks he has been too weak down that left hand side this season and the less said about JDS the better. Kitching and Bidwell have to come in for me.

Aside from that. It was clear FL wants us to play wide, utilise the skills of EMC &saka who I thought was good today. However, it's evident it's not going to be overnight. The midfield looked a bit confused but it improved when Torp came on and actually managed to utilise the spaces being created by the wide players.

Bassette should have done better with both headers which appears a weakness in his game, but that can be trained and I thought he made come great runs, although not his game today.

Very lucky with the handball I think from a referee perspective. Definitely hit the hand but doesn't meet the criteria any more I don't think but I'll take it.

I am hopeful that with a full weeks training we will be in a better place next week.
 

skybluegod

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One thing we have to look at is giving Milan a run on the bench. Not sure if he’s tired, confidence gone or not arsed but something has to give.

Looking at the squad and the manager wants, might be worth throwing Josh Eccles back to right back, just till Milan gets his head together

Josh Eccles is not a RB. Let's not revert to putting square pegs in round holes.
 

M3rcian

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It was terrible in first game terms. In comparison with our performance at home seven days ago it was horrendous.
That's opinion and we each have one. I was responding to Frostie asking what new things were seen to give a reason for optimism.

More of a glass half full perhaps because the future is here and bigger then an individual game.

Personally think coaching has been our biggest issue for a while, hence optimistic we get to address that now with an engaged and enthusiastic coach who was trying to address improvement during the game (something I didn't see from MR for a hell of a long time) and with a lack onfield leadership, that was a refreshing change and reason to be optisimistic in the new regime.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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After the 4 hour drive home, I have got over my initial disappointment. It wasn't a good performance defensively again.

And as much as I like binks he has been too weak down that left hand side this season and the less said about JDS the better. Kitching and Bidwell have to come in for me.

Aside from that. It was clear FL wants us to play wide, utilise the skills of EMC &saka who I thought was good today. However, it's evident it's not going to be overnight. The midfield looked a bit confused but it improved when Torp came on and actually managed to utilise the spaces being created by the wide players.

Bassette should have done better with both headers which appears a weakness in his game, but that can be trained and I thought he made come great runs, although not his game today.

Very lucky with the handball I think from a referee perspective. Definitely hit the hand but doesn't meet the criteria any more I don't think but I'll take it.

I am hopeful that with a full weeks training we will be in a better place next week.
I do feel Bassette is being thrust into a start berth too early. His goal v Sheff U was good and he obviously impacted the game with his aggressiveness and his work rate is phenomenal which endears fans. If he is Vik mk2 he also needs to beef up and improve just as Vik had to.

That all said, he’s still too raw and we have Ellis Simms on the bench who has proved that when we create chances, he scores.
 

fatso

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After the 4 hour drive home, I have got over my initial disappointment. It wasn't a good performance defensively again.

And as much as I like binks he has been too weak down that left hand side this season and the less said about JDS the better. Kitching and Bidwell have to come in for me.

Aside from that. It was clear FL wants us to play wide, utilise the skills of EMC &saka who I thought was good today. However, it's evident it's not going to be overnight. The midfield looked a bit confused but it improved when Torp came on and actually managed to utilise the spaces being created by the wide players.

Bassette should have done better with both headers which appears a weakness in his game, but that can be trained and I thought he made come great runs, although not his game today.

Very lucky with the handball I think from a referee perspective. Definitely hit the hand but doesn't meet the criteria any more I don't think but I'll take it.

I am hopeful that with a full weeks training we will be in a better place next week.
100% agree about Binks and Dasilva, both are piss poor, Binks flatters to deceive because he gets to bring the ball out of defence and spray it about, which looks good when he's not challenged. But his first job is to defend. And he's simply not good enough.
Dasilva is just out of his depth.

We did get lucky with the pen, but I'll take a point which looked unlikely for much of the game.
 

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