Match Thread Coventry City - Cardiff City Match Thread - Saturday 30th Nov (2 Viewers)

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Well a new Manager but it was like Groundhog Day. A Mention for EMC who was reasonable but nothing much else. Midfield again just woeful. A get out of jail free card to escape with a point which I don’t think we really deserved.
 

Cov98

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One thing we have to look at is giving Milan a run on the bench. Not sure if he’s tired, confidence gone or not arsed but something has to give.

Looking at the squad and the manager wants, might be worth throwing Josh Eccles back to right back, just till Milan gets his head together
I’d agree that Milan needs a rest, but who do we put there?
It’s either Lati, Eccles or Tatsu. None of the above are RB’s
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I hope you’re right, for my sake as a fan of my club, but call me Mr. Pessimistic, I just can’t see anything other than a loss for us.
You're having a good season, I wouldn't be too concerned. Will be interesting to see what insights Joe Edwards offers to be fair, is it mostly his players still there?
 

skybluegod

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He has played there before under us and is probably our only backup.

Not to mention he’s got a good cross and could put some good balls into the box

He has played RWB. He has never played RB, and he will not play it well.

I agree he does have those qualities. But let's not put the only player who has consistently performed this year in a position to become a boo boy by playing him a very different role.
 

Captain Dart

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I think Lampard should start Lati at RB and bring on MVE in the second half.
 

MillwallFan

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You're having a good season, I wouldn't be too concerned. Will be interesting to see what insights Joe Edwards offers to be fair, is it mostly his players still there?
Yes, we’re having a good season in that I doubt we’ll be pulled into the relegation spots, but I’m sure you feel the same with your set of players in that sometimes you wonder how your manager can be so blind (or negative) when he doesn’t pick the in form players over those that just aren’t cutting it.

The only player that Edwards brought in, was Tanganga on loan from Spurs in the January transfer window, so plaudits to him and his connections in getting him through the door (and plaudits for Harris securing him permanently on a free transfer in the summer).

In the summer we also signed Jensen, Kelly, Langstaff and Ivanovic on permanent deals and got Coburn and Wintle on loan from Middlesbrough and Cardiff respectively. The rest of the team you’ll see on Saturday all played for Edwards in his 19 game spell as manager, so I’m sure he’ll be able to inform Frank on the weaknesses of some of our players (especially Bradshaw) and how terrible we are at taking corners and set pieces (don’t believe the commentators hype that we’re good doing the latter, because we’re not!)
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yes, we’re having a good season in that I doubt we’ll be pulled into the relegation spots, but I’m sure you feel the same with your set of players in that sometimes you wonder how your manager can be so blind (or negative) when he doesn’t pick the in form players over those that just aren’t cutting it.

The only player that Edwards brought in, was Tanganga on loan from Spurs in the January transfer window, so plaudits to him and his connections in getting him through the door (and plaudits for Harris securing him permanently on a free transfer in the summer).

In the summer we also signed Jensen, Kelly, Langstaff and Ivanovic on permanent deals and got Coburn and Wintle on loan from Middlesbrough and Cardiff respectively. The rest of the team you’ll see on Saturday all played for Edwards in his 19 game spell as manager, so I’m sure he’ll be able to inform Frank on the weaknesses of some of our players (especially Bradshaw) and how terrible we are at taking corners and set pieces (don’t believe the commentators hype that we’re good doing the latter, because we’re not!)
Can only think you haven't really seen us play this season. The players do decide to turn up once every 3 or 4 games though, and that cycle is coming around again next week I suppose.

What I can pretty much guarantee is we aren't keeping a clean sheet!
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Millwall fan here (hence the user name). Just joined your forum to give your supporters some hope in your match against us next Saturday.

For a while now you seem to have been our bogey side, and our record against you hasn’t been good. After today’s performance against an extremely poor Oxford United side, I genuinely believe you’ll get your first win against us under Lampard.

Neil Harris is Mr. Millwall. He loves, lives and breathes our club, and as a motivator of players he’s second to none, but at the moment he does have a blind spot when it comes to picking one particular player over better in form ones. That player is our 5’9 striker (and I use the term “striker” very loosely) Tom Bradshaw. Now Tom gives us 100% commitment but unfortunately that isn’t enough in today’s fast paced Championship. We have better strikers in Langstaff and Ivanovic who have been sitting warming the bench in recent games, and as they have only been coming on in the 89th minute in a last ditch attempt to turn a loss into a draw, or a draw into a win, I’ll be expecting to see them come on when Coventry are in the ascendancy.

You haven’t won in 5 and we’ve gone 9 games unbeaten so something has to give and we’re a side that‘s great to play against when an opposition team haven’t won for a few games. We will have our influential centre half Japhet Tanganga suspended for your game, and we’re also missing our other centre half, Jake Cooper, who’s out for around 10 weeks with an injury, so your strikers will have an easy game running through our patched up CH pairing on Saturday.

You will also have a spy in your camp in Lampard’s No. 2, Joe Edwards, who was our manager for a 19 game spell last season, so I’m sure he’ll be giving Frankie boy the low down on our strengths and weaknesses, and let’s face it: what former manager doesn’t like getting one over on a former club with a good performance and a win against them? Then there’s also the vermin (West Ham) connection with Lampard who previously played for them, so getting his first win and over “the old enemy” will, I’m sure, have him beaming from ear to ear come 5pm on Saturday.

I’m telling you boys, it’s a nailed on certainty for you picking up 3 points. No need to thank me now, you can all thank and gloat at me when I come back on this forum Saturday evening, trying desperately to defend our sh#t show against you.
I can script our game - regardless of our manager. You’ll bully us. We’ll possibly see more of the ball- but we’ll make a mistake and you’ll score And win.

one thing I seen from Millwall and especially Neil Harris’ Millwall - you’re strong and organised. That’s what will beat us
 

Gibbo

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First chance to comment since getting back (via the pub)

- Dreadful performance with the exception of EMC and Rudoni.
- Worse than Derby, who at least were tactically well marshalled. Cardiff were crap
- Basic skills lacking - like the weight of pass
- We can't keep having the combination of Binks, Thomas & Da Silva and conceding 2 goals a game - it's asks too much of the forwards
- MVE and Tats seemed incapable of working an overlap for one or other of them to cross.
- Bassette is a headless chicken. Simms next time.
- Da Silva needs permanently looking after - EMC did it this time - you can't afford that. Please bring back Bidwell asap
- For all Eccles workmanlike efforts, he has no penetrating pass and this year it seems neither does Sheaf. Throws it all onto Rudoni.
- Speed up. How many times the obvious thing to do was there for all to see, but the player would hold the ball or delay the throw in, or whatever, and then do the thing that had been glaringly obvious seconds before, but which they had chosen not to do. But by then Cardiff had it covered.

My "favourite" moment? every time we had a corner or similar, the centre halves went forward and the three shortest members of the team, Da Silva, Tats and MVE dropped back. They looked like Oompa Loompa's. A defence made up of midgets. Please don't mansplain the reasoning for this, I know what it is, I am just saying it looked comical.
 

SBAndy

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On paper as a formation it looks normal but....

- We had Dasilva tucking in alongside the CBs at times.
- Rudoni & EMC both playing left wing at the same time.
- Then when BTA came on we switched EMC to the right yet he tucked so far in he was almost on Simms' toes & MVE had no option but to turn back every single time.

The style we saw today leads me to think Binks playing at LB is a distinct possibility, with him tucking in and becoming a double pivot with Sheaf when we’re on the attack. Rudoni providing the overlap option makes sense to me, similar to Van Ewijk on the right, but it’s contingent on EMC and Sakamoto tucking into CM when the move breaks down.

I think what I want is an experienced centre back alongside Thomas and Binks at LB.
 

The CableGuy

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Millwall fan here (hence the user name). Just joined your forum to give your supporters some hope in your match against us next Saturday.

For a while now you seem to have been our bogey side, and our record against you hasn’t been good. After today’s performance against an extremely poor Oxford United side, I genuinely believe you’ll get your first win against us under Lampard.

Neil Harris is Mr. Millwall. He loves, lives and breathes our club, and as a motivator of players he’s second to none, but at the moment he does have a blind spot when it comes to picking one particular player over better in form ones. That player is our 5’9 striker (and I use the term “striker” very loosely) Tom Bradshaw. Now Tom gives us 100% commitment but unfortunately that isn’t enough in today’s fast paced Championship. We have better strikers in Langstaff and Ivanovic who have been sitting warming the bench in recent games, and as they have only been coming on in the 89th minute in a last ditch attempt to turn a loss into a draw, or a draw into a win, I’ll be expecting to see them come on when Coventry are in the ascendancy.

You haven’t won in 5 and we’ve gone 9 games unbeaten so something has to give and we’re a side that‘s great to play against when an opposition team haven’t won for a few games. We will have our influential centre half Japhet Tanganga suspended for your game, and we’re also missing our other centre half, Jake Cooper, who’s out for around 10 weeks with an injury, so your strikers will have an easy game running through our patched up CH pairing on Saturday.

You will also have a spy in your camp in Lampard’s No. 2, Joe Edwards, who was our manager for a 19 game spell last season, so I’m sure he’ll be giving Frankie boy the low down on our strengths and weaknesses, and let’s face it: what former manager doesn’t like getting one over on a former club with a good performance and a win against them? Then there’s also the vermin (West Ham) connection with Lampard who previously played for them, so getting his first win and over “the old enemy” will, I’m sure, have him beaming from ear to ear come 5pm on Saturday.

I’m telling you boys, it’s a nailed on certainty for you picking up 3 points. No need to thank me now, you can all thank and gloat at me when I come back on this forum Saturday evening, trying desperately to defend our sh#t show against you.

I wish I had your confidence. You'll score at least 2 goals against us, pretty much everyone else has.
 

fernandopartridge

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Just watched their second goal back, we're just so off it, Sheaf and Rudoni passed around easily, Rudoni letting their 18 run by him and Binks half heartedly tries to block it but not the path of the actual shot. Fucking atrocious.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Just watched their second goal back, we're just so off it, Sheaf and Rudoni passed around easily, Rudoni letting their 18 run by him and Binks half heartedly tries to block it but not the path of the actual shot. Fucking atrocious.
Just wonder what the message was at half time, we came out and conceded almost immediately and then looked distinctly clueless for 45 minutes. Perhaps it was just information overload in the space of a few days leading to confusion?
 

Chris1987

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The second goal I have to say was quite bizarre from us lining up in a back 6 and asking sheaf and Eccles to chase a 40 yard midfield alone until they eventually got space to shoot

Who told them to drop in like that ?
I'm not sure that anyone did . They were just motionless .
 

MalcSB

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Just catching up on EFL highlights. It looked like a Cardiff player was in an offside position right in front of Collins for their first goal. Actually went to play it but must have unsighted Collins, clearly “interfering with play”.

secondly, how on earth did Blackburn still have 11 men in the pitch all match? That was a horror tackle by Dolan.
 
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Warwickhunt

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These players couldn’t be arsed to put in a performance to save Robins’ job.

These players couldn’t be arsed to put in a performance to impress the new manager.

They may be better than the league table suggests, but their attitude absolutely stinks
Every other team get a new manager bounce! How come we get a new manager thud!
 

Skyblue Bangkok

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Just catching up on EFL highlights. It looked like a Cardiff player was in an offside position right in front of Collins for their first goal. Actually went to play it but must have unsighted Collins, clearly “interfering with play”.

secondly, how on earth did Blackburn still have 11 men in the pitch all match? That was a horror tackle by Dolan.
I thought two of their players looked offside for their goal, we was very lucky to get a pen. No idea how that Blackburn player did not receive a red card for that terrible challenge
 

napolimp

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Few things from yesterday.

1. Personnel wise, Lampard has gone for a team of players who have been playing recently, as he's clearly not had time to assess who fits best into his system, or who he thinks should be playing. That just makes sense to minimise disruption.

2. What is basically one training session isn't long enough to get a team playing the way you want them to - blaringly obvious this would be the case. It's going to take weeks, if not months, and hopefully we don't lose too many.

3. Players didn't know what they were doing for most of the match. Makes sense considering the lack of time they've had with the coaching team.

4. Defence was already a liability before we switched to a 4, drastic action needs to be taken.

5. The first Cardiff goal was offside, the penalty was clear cut.

6. He's asked them to transition from a 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1, but Rudoni keeps drifting massively out left. That helps EMC but leaves Sakamoto isolated.

7. Bassette was screaming out to be played in behind throughout the first half, the kind of balls Torp is capable of providing.
 

Major Tom

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First chance to comment since getting back (via the pub)

- Dreadful performance with the exception of EMC and Rudoni.
- Worse than Derby, who at least were tactically well marshalled. Cardiff were crap
- Basic skills lacking - like the weight of pass
- We can't keep having the combination of Binks, Thomas & Da Silva and conceding 2 goals a game - it's asks too much of the forwards
- MVE and Tats seemed incapable of working an overlap for one or other of them to cross.
- Bassette is a headless chicken. Simms next time.
- Da Silva needs permanently looking after - EMC did it this time - you can't afford that. Please bring back Bidwell asap
- For all Eccles workmanlike efforts, he has no penetrating pass and this year it seems neither does Sheaf. Throws it all onto Rudoni.
- Speed up. How many times the obvious thing to do was there for all to see, but the player would hold the ball or delay the throw in, or whatever, and then do the thing that had been glaringly obvious seconds before, but which they had chosen not to do. But by then Cardiff had it covered.

My "favourite" moment? every time we had a corner or similar, the centre halves went forward and the three shortest members of the team, Da Silva, Tats and MVE dropped back. They looked like Oompa Loompa's. A defence made up of midgets. Please don't mansplain the reasoning for this, I know what it is, I am just saying it looked comical.
We need to do some serious work on our throw ins ..agree the sense of urgency to get the ball back in play is poor
 

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