Match Thread Coventry City - Crawley Town Match Thread - Saturday 25th Nov (4 Viewers)

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Adge said:
Just for info-when the ball goes out of play is part of the game. No need for time added on for that.

Yeah, but it's then the length of time players are taking to take the throw in. THAT is the problem, so like I say, ball goes out, clock keeps ticking. The second the ball gets into the throw in takers hands, the ref puts them on a timer.

Would be easy though to indeed stop the watch once the ball is out of play. Players are taking far too long to take throw ins and are deliberately stealing yards knowing the ref will send them back and that it will just waste a few more seconds.

sky blue john · Nov 26, 2017

Otis said:
Very frustrating day and top it off my missus says her and the daughter are waiting for me at the Arena shopping centre after the game. So, I go and meet them and ask where the car is and she says she left it where they left me, right down the end of the road of Lythall's Lane where it meets the road going into the Arena by Burger King. They just parked up and went shopping. Of course we came back to the car to find a parking ticket and a £70 fine.

Don't mean to be mean, but how dumb is that? As I said to her, why does she think I don't just take the car and park up myself every week? Why does she come and collect me most matches? She just looked at me gone out.

If cov had won your mrs would have got away with that one.

thekidfromstrettoncamp · Nov 26, 2017

The way Robins plays its a game where not losing is what he want and if we nick a goal all well and good try and go undefeated is his plan .yesterday 9 shots 2 on target pretty low 2wins and 1 defeat gives you 6 points . You don't see top teams in any division saying i've got a draw I must protect it Luton lost to us but they have made up for that since . As for time wasting a certain guy who plays in green for us is not the quickest at taking kicks of any sort unless we are behind.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

sky blue john said:
If cov had won your mrs would have got away with that one.

Totally daft though. She's known for years that I could only park at Tesco and then known for the last two years or so that I could no longer park there either. I either walk now or she drops me off at Lythall's Lane and then some games picks me back up again from the same place.

Just don't know how she got it in her mind to just leave the car there, cos surely if she could leave the car there I could just take the car every game and leave the car there myself.

Numpty!!

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
The way Robins plays its a game where not losing is what he want and if we nick a goal all well and good try and go undefeated is his plan .yesterday 9 shots 2 on target pretty low 2wins and 1 defeat gives you 6 points . You don't see top teams in any division saying i've got a draw I must protect it Luton lost to us but they have made up for that since . As for time wasting a certain guy who plays in green for us is not the quickest at taking kicks of any sort unless we are behind.

Have you ever seen a team though start to time waste from the 8th minute?

I been going up now an awful long time now and I have never, ever seen any like it.

sky blue john · Nov 26, 2017

Otis said:
Totally daft though. She's known for years that I could only park at Tesco and then known for the last two years or so that I could no longer park there either. I either walk now or she drops me off at Lythall's Lane and then some games picks me back up again from the same place.

Just don't know how she got it in her mind to just leave the car there, cos surely if she could leave the car there I could just take the car every game and leave the car there myself.

Numpty!!

Lol
Is it too late to trade her in.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

sky blue john said:
Lol
Is it too late to trade her in.

Yup. Unfortunately.

Her logic defies logic at times.

thekidfromstrettoncamp · Nov 26, 2017

Hope she's not reading this Otis or you will get "Numpty!!"

Nick · Nov 26, 2017

steve82 said:
I don't see who you can shift on tho, this is his and TW squad that they hand picked. It's only Kyle Reid who's due back in January and Jordan Turnbull who's on a season long loan who they really inherited that's possibly surplus with Kwame Thomas who can only leave for Sutton or Solihull.
Ben Stevenson and JJ are the only other two who they didn't offer a deal to in the summer.

The rest is there players or players they choose to offer new deals to. If your hoping to shift out Beavon or vincenti I think you could be disappointed. There both only 6 months into new 2 year deals.

Since MR came back he's signed 13 new players, 6 renewed contracts, 2 extended contracts, and 5 players who he's inherited excluding academy players promoted.

That's the thing, people seem to think he is going to sell on or move players he has just signed or extended.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Hope she's not reading this Otis or you will get "Numpty!!"

You know what she said when we found the ticket? That it was my fault we got a ticket and that it was my fault because I said she WOULD get a ticket as we started to approach the car.

Warwickhunt · Nov 26, 2017

Adge said:
Just for info-when the ball goes out of play is part of the game. No need for time added on for that.

We would be getting 120 minute games the way the players roll about the floor banging their hands on the grass in ultimate pain and then getting up and running around as soon as they call for the stretcher. It's time for the sin bin if you ask me or a rule that says if a player requires treatment for more than 3 minutes then the player must leave the pitch for 10

speedie87 · Nov 26, 2017

Sorry if someone’s else has already mentioned this but even their physio was time wasting yesterday as he crawled across the pitch.

Londonccfcfan · Nov 26, 2017

Is Rod McDonald now banned as he picked up his 5th booking.

Will the ban carry forward to fa cup or Morecambe? Or has that time frame window passed?

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Londonccfcfan said:
Is Rod McDonald now banned as he picked up his 5th booking.

Will the ban carry forward to fa cup or Morecambe? Or has that time frame window passed?

I didn't see him get booked. Was that right at the end? I left with about 3 minutes of added time left, just as they got a free kick inside our half and were again slowing everything right down.

Londonccfcfan · Nov 26, 2017

Yeah right at the end, he got booked for very clumsy late challenge. So does he miss a game? I hope he doesn’t miss Morecambe, hopefully he’s banned vs Boreham Wood.

That’s the first time this season I’ve looked at Rod and thought...hmmmm that’s why you are not playing at higher level. No pace. Still my player of the season so far. Looked tired.

Could have been very costly.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Londonccfcfan said:
Yeah right at the end, he got booked for very clumsy late challenge. So does he miss a game? I hope he doesn’t miss Morecambe, hopefully he’s banned vs Boreham Wood.

That’s the first time this season I’ve looked at Rod and thought...hmmmm that’s why you are not playing at higher level. No pace. Still my player of the season so far. Looked tired.

Could have been very costly.

It was the last game before a clean slate too.

Johnnythespider · Nov 26, 2017

0 points for a draw solves this overnight.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Johnnythespider said:
0 points for a draw solves this overnight.

To a degree, Johnny, but I still think teams would come and defend, sit back and try and nick a goal and of course if they did get a goal it wouldn't then stop them going back to the tactic of time wasting and trying to kill the game once 1-0 ahead.

covcity4life · Nov 26, 2017

Is this a serious debate aboit changing the rules of football because a team stopped cov winning?!

Hahaha

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

covcity4life said:
Is this a serious debate aboit changing the rules of football because a team stopped cov winning?!

Hahaha

We've had the exact same debate before in general about fans drifting away from the game because of all the cynicism and cheating etc. Not just about yesterday

covcity4life · Nov 26, 2017

Noone is driftin away because of time wasting

Address diving and non stop whistles from ref first

ps1948 · Nov 26, 2017

Irish Sky Blue said:
Don't think it is justified at any time. I hate it when we do it to. The only way to stamp it out is if referees add all of the time wasted back on. Today's two minutes in the first half and six in the second was no compensation for what Crawley did. First time I have seen that from the physio though.

Having seen so much blatant time wasting this season, at all levels, I think the only way to sort it would be to stop the clock every time the ball goes out of play, and cut the game down to 70 minutes of actual football - at the moment, we pay for 90 minutes and get about 50 - 60 if we are lucky

Nick · Nov 26, 2017

ps1948 said:
Having seen so much blatant time wasting this season, at all levels, I think the only way to sort it would be to stop the clock every time the ball goes out of play, and cut the game down to 70 minutes of actual football - at the moment, we pay for 90 minutes and get about 50 - 60 if we are lucky

It should help if refs show yellow cards no matter if it's the fifth minute or 90th. Warn them first, then it's a yellow.

We see it now as teams are happy to come and get a point.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Nick said:
It should help if refs show yellow cards no matter if it's the fifth minute or 90th. Warn them first, then it's a yellow.

We see it now as teams are happy to come and get a point.

It's a ridiculous concept this of a bad tackle being in the first minute. A bad tackle is a bad tackle. Doesn't matter when the tackle is made.

Need to do something about dissent too. Their centre half yesterday was constantly trying to get Beavon booked and moaning at the ref, despite nearly every challenge being an honest and fair one.

Nick · Nov 26, 2017

Otis said:
It's a ridiculous concept this of a bad tackle being in the first minute. A bad tackle is a bad tackle. Doesn't matter when the tackle is made.

Need to do something about dissent too. Their centre half yesterday was constantly trying to get Beavon booked and moaning at the ref, despite nearly every challenge being an honest and fair one.

Their tackle early on should be been a red.

Legia Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2017

covcity4life said:
Noone is driftin away because of time wasting

Address diving and non stop whistles from ref first

You are joking? Time wasting is chronic, particularly so in this league and is the biggest driver in making games so dull. It has a much bigger impact on the game as a spectacle than diving or poor refs. Yes you want your team to win, but sport is supposed to be about entertainment, which can come from a dodgy refs decision or a poor piece of defending or goalkeeping. Entertainment isn't about a player strolling from halfway up the pitch to take a throw, or a goalkeeper taking an eternity over collecting a ball and carefully placing it on the correct blade of grass, or feigning injury to stop the flow of the game, or shaking hands with everyone before slowly trudging off when subbed, or overly celebrating a goal to delay the restart. As you can probably tell - It drives me nuts!!

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Legia Sky Blue said:
You are joking? Time wasting is chronic, particularly so in this league and is the biggest driver in making games so dull. It has a much bigger impact on the game as a spectacle than diving or poor refs. Yes you want your team to win, but sport is supposed to be about entertainment, which can come from a dodgy refs decision or a poor piece of defending or goalkeeping. Entertainment isn't about a player strolling from halfway up the pitch to take a throw, or a goalkeeper taking an eternity over collecting a ball and carefully placing it on the correct blade of grass, or feigning injury to stop the flow of the game, or shaking hands with everyone before slowly trudging off when subbed, or overly celebrating a goal to delay the restart. As you can probably tell - It drives me nuts!!

When players time waste you don't get a fast flowing game. Definitely affects your enjoyment.

Adge · Nov 26, 2017

Otis said:
It's a ridiculous concept this of a bad tackle being in the first minute. A bad tackle is a bad tackle. Doesn't matter when the tackle is made.

Need to do something about dissent too. Their centre half yesterday was constantly trying to get Beavon booked and moaning at the ref, despite nearly every challenge being an honest and fair one.

That's where people get confused regarding dissent. An opinion about a decision is not dissent. Not agreeing about a decision is not dissent. Talking to the ref is not dissent. Blatantly shouting at the top of your voice about it would be. Also it depends on the tolerance of the referee, he might have a high tolerance level or a low tolerance level. People also go on about consistency, the only way you would get consistently is if you have the same referee all the time as two referees would see the same thing differently.
Regarding Beavon and the central defender yesterday trying to get Beavon booked, the likelihood is that would make the referee go the other way and penalise his own team anyway.

steve82 · Nov 26, 2017

On the subject of time wasting it was poor from Crawley but to be expected.

However was it just me or could we of been quicker getting out our own half from Burge? A few occasions a quick throw or kick was on but we opted not to when you'd normally see a keeper bowl it out to start a counter.

Crawley didn't exactly drop back quickly. We should look at our own tempo of play too, far too casual at times and lacking positive movement and decision making.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Adge said:
That's where people get confused regarding dissent. An opinion about a decision is not dissent. Not agreeing about a decision is not dissent. Talking to the ref is not dissent. Blatantly shouting at the top of your voice about it would be. Also it depends on the tolerance of the referee, he might have a high tolerance level or a low tolerance level. People also go on about consistency, the only way you would get consistently is if you have the same referee all the time as two referees would see the same thing differently.
Regarding Beavon and the central defender yesterday trying to get Beavon booked, the likelihood is that would make the referee go the other way and penalise his own team anyway.

I don't think I am confused about dissent though. The player kept arguing with the ref at the decisions and kept throwing his arms about. That IS dissent.

Grendel · Nov 26, 2017

Otis said:
I don't think I am confused about dissent though. The player kept arguing with the ref at the decisions and kept throwing his arms about. That IS dissent.

Doyle is the worst player I’ve seen for doing that this season.

Otis · Nov 26, 2017

Grendel said:
Doyle is the worst player I’ve seen for doing that this season.

He does do that for sure. About time refs clamped down on it.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Nov 26, 2017

Londonccfcfan said:
Is Rod McDonald now banned as he picked up his 5th booking.

Will the ban carry forward to fa cup or Morecambe? Or has that time frame window passed?

As I understand it , 5 bookings before the end of November , then you miss the next game .
That's why Nazon missed the Stevenage game !!!
So McDonald will miss the FA game against Borehamwood .

stevefloyd · Nov 27, 2017

covcity4life said:
Noone is driftin away because of time wasting

Address diving and non stop whistles from ref first

So you're debating as well now

covcity4life · Nov 27, 2017

stevefloyd said:
So you're debating as well now

im not asking for drastic rule changes. diving is officially against football rules so can be enforced more. and phsycialy of tackles should still be down to interpretation.

watch a serie A game, refs allow play to flow so much more.

so once again not asking for rule changes to the game of football

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