Match Thread Coventry City - Derby County Match Thread - Wednesday 6th Nov (2 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

I dont think he’s much better defensively and as one of the players who just get the most touches of the ball he just doesn’t use it or drive well enough. But mostly I think an older CB will likely play the central role.

I think thomas next to an experienced CB is the best possible answer , Thomas is exceptional generally in the tackle just need some refinement to his game .

Still quite young

 

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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

I maintain an experienced CM and an experienced CB transform this side. Just crying out for some steel and leadership on the pitch..

Not with changing the system every 5 minutes it won't.

 

[Nick]

We just need to top talking like this and focus on what the squad needs in January because it's clearly not balanced and is lacking a couple of players

4 more strikers and a centre half to sit on the bench.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

We need experience and leaders on the pitch

 

[skyblue_55]

The reality is , we haven’t got any money until Vik is sold , so January might be a damp squib ?
Doug doesn’t want loan players, so we are snookered there , for getting possibly any experience in , so this could be a very long & painful season …… just the opposite of what we thought it would be !

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

The reality is , we haven’t got any money until Vik is sold , so January might be a damp squib ?
Doug doesn’t want loan players, so we are snookered there , for getting possibly any experience in , so this could be a very long & painful season …… just the opposite of what we thought it would be !

He might have to get loans in for us to survive in this league. We are joint 3rd bottom for a reason

 

[MalcSB]

The reality is , we haven’t got any money until Vik is sold , so January might be a damp squib ?
Doug doesn’t want loan players, so we are snookered there , for getting possibly any experience in , so this could be a very long & painful season …… just the opposite of what we thought it would be !

Doug needs to learn a few lessons pretty quickly.
Buying low and selling high is the exception (Hamer, Gyokeres) not the rule (Any number of examples from recent years, let’s use Hilsner as an example),
Other clubs must have sensible reasons for using loanees.

 

[Matt smith]

He might have to get loans in for us to survive in this league. We are joint 3rd bottom for a reason

Needs to seriously strengthen in January

 

[Matt smith]

This feels the worst result of the lot at home as felt like we’d actually turned a corner

think the whole season is just going to be pretty grim

 

[Mr Panda]

He literally changed formation? We have our only 2 natural CF’s out, not much more we could’ve changed

What I meant was he should have changed it much sooner. It wasn’t working for a full hour

 

[Chris1987]

Unsure where the blame lies , probably mk should be shared between the players and Robins but when the going gets ugly they all disappear. Spineless and mentally weak bunch.

 

[Viktor17]

That was just so meh and so city. Derby very poor.

We can moan about set up 532 / 443 etc - but players have to take responsibility for lack of tempo and intent. Robins can take blame for how we set up, but these players an figure stuff out.

This probably reflects where we are - v inconsistent, young, naive, lacking leaders........ mid table ish team.

Will probably go and win Saturday!

 

[Otis]

Is that where we will find the extra gear?

No. That'll be TK Maxx.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

That was just so meh and so city. Derby very poor.

We can moan about set up 532 / 443 etc - but players have to take responsibility for lack of tempo and intent. Robins can take blame for how we set up, but these players an figure stuff out.

This probably reflects where we are - v inconsistent, young, naive, lacking leaders........ mid table ish team.

Will probably go and win Saturday!

Feel incredibly deflated & angry at the level of City performance last night.
I wouldn't even accept a free helicopter ride up to Sunderland on Saturday.
They can all fuck off , for now.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

Feel incredibly deflated & angry at the level of City performance last night.
I wouldn't even accept a free helicopter ride up to Sunderland on Saturday.
They can all fuck off , for now.

Let's face it even after we pulled a goal back it was hardly all guns blazing , maybe one chance the Wright header and a tame attempt

 

[Pezza]

How many of us saw that performance and result coming though? So predictable… big crowd, at home, ‘in form’ and expectations high, playing a ‘lesser team’…. Then that.

It was a terrible game, both teams were crap, Derby especially on the ball. Their style is rank to watch.

They got the rub of the green on the night but yes, changing things far too late again. Robins is not a tactician and Warne has done him in this one.

Can’t see anything more than a point from next 2 games either, which means another International break where I simply can’t look at the table.

 

[Otis]

Let's face it even after we pulled a goal back it was hardly all guns blazing , maybe one chance the Wright header and a tame attempt

Wright had two

One where it came off his shoulder rather than his head and the other he put it wide.

 

[djr8369]

They have it when nothing’s expected of them or there’s nothing riding on the game.

It does feel like a lot of it is confidence.

 

[Saddlebrains]

I maintain an experienced CM and an experienced CB transform this side. Just crying out for some steel and leadership on the pitch.

Won't get one though


Doesn't fit 'the model'

 

[djr8369]

Game plan, tactics, plan B, all of this is moot if the players don’t turn up and put the base level of effort in. Derby won today by being first to balls, being positive, and throwing themselves at everything. None of that was written on an iPad.

Exactly the same as every other game we have lost.

 

[djr8369]

Won't get one though


Doesn't fit 'the model'

We tried to get 3 didn’t we and none came off?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Im willing to bet good money we finish well above Wayne Rooney’s Plymouth and Derby for a start.

On what basis?

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Heaven't watched it back, but thought at the time Yates was offside when their lad flicked the ball on for their second - it seems MR has said so in his comments. Annoying (added to our poor performance)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Heaven't watched it back, but thought at the time Yates was offside when their lad flicked the ball on for their second - it seems MR has said so in his comments. Annoying (added to our poor performance)

Clutching at straws somewhat.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Clutching at straws somewhat.

??? I said we played poorly. I'm just saying that I thought Yates was offside from the flick on (I sit in Block 15, so had a decent view) I looked over to the lino, who was doing the 'not in a good position, mad sprint' and realised he wasn't going to give it. I'm not clutching at straws over our performance, but we lost to an offside goal (worth a comment)?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

??? I said we played poorly. I'm just saying that I thought Yates was offside from the flick on (I sit in Block 15, so had a decent view) I looked over to the lino, who was doing the 'not in a good position, mad sprint' and realised he wasn't going to give it. I'm not clutching at straws over our performance, but we lost to an offside goal (worth a comment)?

Overall did we deserve a point?

 

[Otis]

Overall did we deserve a point?

But that's not the point is it.

Goals like that can define games and it could have been a completely different outcome had that been given as offside.

 

[Boicey]

Robins got done tactically and the team formation was completely wrong.
Saka and MVE came to life when Saka was moved wide right.
Torp is a much better no 10 where he can pass and shoot.
Wright is much better on the left than down the middle.
Rudi isn't a wing back JDS is.
Why didn't Sheaf or Eccles come and get the ball from Thomas on the half way line when they backed off. Do you expect a centre back to thread a ball through a packed defence or run through?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But that's not the point is it.

Goals like that can define games and it could have been a completely different outcome had that been given as offside.

Focusing on linesman decisions is a distraction from the overall performance.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

If we'd have won last night I would have been able to accept 3 straight wins and a loss at Sunderland as progress
So we need to beat Sunderland to put last night to bed. Which won't be easy at all.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

Robins got done tactically and the team formation was completely wrong.
Saka and MVE came to life when Saka was moved wide right.
Torp is a much better no 10 where he can pass and shoot.
Wright is much better on the left than down the middle.
Rudi isn't a wing back JDS is.
Why didn't Sheaf or Eccles come and get the ball from Thomas on the half way line when they backed off. Do you expect a centre back to thread a ball through a packed defence or run through?

Sheaf & Eccles strolled around last night like a couple of players who think they should be in the prem league. Sheaf in his usual laconic style set the tone by giving it away in his own half within first few minutes. They both need motivating. Stick not carrot.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Overall did we deserve a point?

Probably yes

 

[itsabuzzard]

Oggy said we were playing Birmingham last Saturday

And Clive mentioned Tranmere, though he did correct himself quickly.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Probably yes

Fair, I disagree.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Won't get one though


Doesn't fit 'the model'

Didn’t we try for the Forest CB and Browne tho. There has to be some more flexibility to this if so.