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Match Thread Coventry City - Millwall FC Match Thread - Sunday 29th Dec (10 Viewers)

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Frostie

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #981
skybluecam said:
Unlikely but still possible.

And finishing as high as we can is important, we are more likely to retain and attract players and fans with a top 10 finish rather than a 15th place damp squib.
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I agree & also think we should have pushed harder in the summer, but as I say it would be a bit of a 180° for King. He was very cautious/reluctant with them even as a proposed playoff chasing team to then spend money on them for no return would be odd. Hopefully, as suggested he's listening to Lampard.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #982
skybluecam said:
Unlikely but still possible.

And finishing as high as we can is important, we are more likely to retain and attract players and fans with a top 10 finish rather than a 15th place damp squib.
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I would’ve thought that offering them money that we haven’t already spent on loan players in the previous window would be the main motivating factor.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #983
Viktor17 said:
Young Liverpool lad lined up got injured. Think he's only just returned to fitness.

DK who was late on, but we did try and things changed.
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When Austin spoke at the forum he mentioned reasons as to why loans were problematic but didn't say any had fell through, though that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #984
SBT said:
I would’ve thought that offering them money that we haven’t already spent on loan players in the previous window would be the main motivating factor.
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Half season loan deals won't be costing us much in the grand scheme of things, and I think we are a much more attractive proposition for potential players with a 9th place finish vs 15th.

I also imagine that Lampard was assured he'd have the opportunity to bring at least a few players in in Jan.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #985
skybluecam said:
Half season loan deals won't be costing us much in the grand scheme of things, and I think we are a much more attractive proposition for potential players with a 9th place finish vs 15th.

I also imagine that Lampard was assured he'd have the opportunity to bring at least a few players in in Jan.
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We will be an attractive proposition to any player in the summer so long as we can offer a high enough salary and show we are making suitably serious investments elsewhere in the squad. If spending money on loan signings to have us finishing 9th instead of 15th hinders our ability to do that then we shouldn’t do it.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #986
Frostie said:
Would be an odd change of tact from King given we aren't going down or making playoffs, it's just dead money. Caveats over loans with view to perm or if we're offloading elsewhere to offset the wages of course.
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We were literally getting a loan in before the season.

Can't help but think half the shit is made up.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #987
Nick said:
We were literally getting a loan in before the season.
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Who?
 

Frostie

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #988
Nick said:
We were literally getting a loan in before the season.

Can't help but think half the shit is made up.
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I know... I even said it at the time. See below
Have you read the actual messages above or just picked bits & drawn your own conclusions?

Allen Injured

Giving David Bell a four year contract? Selling Lucas Jutkiewitz in relegation threatened season with no replacement being signed and the money not made available? Selling Wilson to Bournemouth and accepting 4 useless loan players as part of the deal? Just three Sisu transfer decisions off the...
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SBT said:
Who?
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James McConnell I was told.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #989
So no loans more made up stuff by fans?
 

skybluecam

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #990
SBT said:
We will be an attractive proposition to any player in the summer so long as we can offer a high enough salary and show we are making suitably serious investments elsewhere in the squad. If spending money on loan signings to have us finishing 9th instead of 15th hinders our ability to do that then we shouldn’t do it.
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Why would we be an attractive proposition if we finished 15th? Attendances would dip, we’d likely lose a few key players and there would be little evidence of us making top 6 next season.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #991
I do love how with the ITK stuff if something supports someone's point of view they take it as a cast iron fact but if it doesn't they dismiss it as nonsense or demand proof
 
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Gibbo

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #992
Hobo said:
Sakamoto's positional play when we were in possession was poor and showed a disconnect e we with his team mates. When he did get on the ball we all know what he is going to do, drag it back and cut inside onto his left foot. I don't think he successfully did it once to complete a cross!
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Absolutely, the number of times MVE just did not feel confident we would retain possession if he fed Tats and instead turned back to the centre backs, usually Thomas. Tats place is up for grabs, something we would not have said last season
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #993
skybluecam said:
Why would we be an attractive proposition if we finished 15th? Attendances would dip, we’d likely lose a few key players and there would be little evidence of us making top 6 next season.
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #994
clint van damme said:
When Austin spoke at the forum he mentioned reasons as to why loans were problematic but didn't say any had fell through, though that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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James McConnell (footballer, born 2004) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He was signing but had a nasty injury so it fell through

The whole we don't do loans thing has always been bollocks, we understandably prefer to buy players we we will actually own but will do loans if it is the right thing to do.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #995
covcity4life said:
Rudoni brings more physicality than o hare did and he can hold his own creative wise.

He hasn't reached the heights o hare did yet for us but I am think he could be better on the long run perhaps as so young
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Will somebody do the stats, O'Hare v Rudoni goals and assists per 10 games
 

skybluecam

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #996
SBT said:
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We don't actually have much money compared to a lot of the league tho
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #997
skybluecam said:
We don't actually have much money compared to a lot of the league tho
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Which is why I want to save as much money for the summer window as possible.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #998
Think the director of football role is beyond Doug king really we need someone who knows football
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #999
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think the director of football role is beyond Doug king really we need someone who knows football
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We got by without a dof during sisu era didn't we?
 

Frostie

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,000
David O'Day said:

James McConnell (footballer, born 2004) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He was signing but had a nasty injury so it fell through

The whole we don't do loans thing has always been bollocks, we understandably prefer to buy players we we will actually own but will do loans if it is the right thing to do.
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Exactly. It was never a hard & fast "no loans". King was reluctant as he sees it as dead money & for the other reasons outlined by Austin at the forum but for the right player at the right price, there was always room for at least 1. We should have done more to get 1 or 2 in during the summer though for sure.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,001
covcity4life said:
We got by without a dof during sisu era didn't we?
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That’s when we had a manager and not a head coach
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,002
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s when we had a manager and not a head coach
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But apparently recruitment was down to Austin?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,003
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think the director of football role is beyond Doug king really we need someone who knows football
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Didn't King say we were looking to bring one in?
 
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Frostie

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,004
clint van damme said:
Didn't King say we were looking to bring one in?
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I thought he seemed a bit of a deer in the headlights when asked it at the forum like it hadn't even been considered previously.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,005
Frostie said:
I thought seemed a bit of a deer in the headlights when asked it at the forum like it hadn't even been considered previously.
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Just checked, he's spoken about the role again since then but referred to the position as Sporting director rather than Director of football.

Said he's going to take his time making the appointment.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,006
covcity4life said:
We got by without a dof during sisu era didn't we?
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We got by without a lot of things during their era, including a home.
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,007
clint van damme said:
We got by without a lot of things during their era, including a home.
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Exactly. Now we are in a much better place yet stuff like dof is now a big deal to people and vital lol

A dof would be ideal but we're hardly a disaster without one is what I mean.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,008
covcity4life said:
Exactly. Now we are in a much better place yet stuff like dof is now a big deal to people and vital lol

A dof would be ideal but we're hardly a disaster without one is what I mean.
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Who's saying it's a big deal?
 

fingers_crossed

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,009
It wasn‘t an exciting match, but there were some interesting tactical things that you can see when you’re at the game.
1) We were trying to play that Pep-style 3-2-5 in possession, especially in the first half. I swear I even saw some Rico Lewis style runs from Bidwell.
2) Millwall set up in a 4-4-2 mid block designed to disrupt us and they executed it perfectly. They didn’t press our defenders but they blocked all of the passing lanes out of defence, leading to a lot of sterile passing between Dovin, Thomas and Lati.
3) We should have brought Simms on much sooner. He opened up a whole new option for forward passing, suddenly we could get the whole team up the pitch faster and Millwall had to drop back. Sheaf actually had more space on the ball after that. I think changing Simms at HT could have won it for us.
4) Dovin seems more confident. He enjoys having the ball at his feet, and was solid in everything he did.

Yesterday was one of those transitional games you see when a team is trying to play a slightly different way and it isn’t quite working yet.
 
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Lamps

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,010
covcity4life said:
But apparently recruitment was down to Austin?
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What is his role at our club? Is he stealing a living?
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,011
fingers_crossed said:
It wasn‘t an exciting match, but there were some interesting tactical things that you can see when you’re at the game.
1) We were trying to play that Pep-style 3-2-5 in possession, especially in the first half. I swear I even saw some Rico Lewis style runs from Bidwell.
2) Millwall set up in a 4-4-2 mid block designed to disrupt us and they executed it perfectly. They didn’t press our defenders but they blocked all of the passing lanes out of defence, leading to a lot of sterile passing between Dovin, Thomas and Lati.
3) We should have brought Simms on much sooner. He opened up a whole new option for forward passing, suddenly we could get the whole team up the pitch faster and Millwall had to drop back. Sheaf actually had more space on the ball after that. I think changing Simms at HT could have won it for us.
4) Dovin seems more confident. He enjoys having the ball at his feet, and was solid in everything he did.

Yesterday was one of those transitional games you see when a team is trying to play a slightly different way and it isn’t quite working yet.
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It was interesting that we have changed how we build from the back already, at the start we seemed to make the 3 at the back in the build up phase the 2 cbs and the lb where as now it looks like the lb advances further and Sheaf drops back at lot to back the 3 in the initial build up before stepping forward once we are moving forward with the ball.

It's interesting and with time and more training could be great.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,012
Millwall fan’s view. Stupid prat walked from the station.


My 1st visit to the Ricoh/Coventry building society/shit hole in the Midlands ground. Last time was Highfield Road.

We decided to walk the 3 and a half fkin miles from Cov station and by god that 'City' is a shithole. Hardly saw any white folk until we were near to the ground, mosque to the left mosque to the right, with the odd curry house and dodgy Asian supermarket to brighten up our walk.

The city centre was like a scene from Zombie apocalypse.

Their ground is the nicest thing in the whole city.

A good crowd was there though and when they did sing it was quite impressive, but most of the time it was like a morgue in there.

Highlight of the day was at half time when I went for a smoke outside, there was only 10 metres or so between us and them, so the abuse started flying and a few plastic bottles and coins were lobbed over the fences. One Wall fella decided that was enough, jumped over our fence and proceeded to pull their fence down and wade it to some of the mouthy coventry lot. A medal is deserved.

The match was pretty shit, but we clung on and got a boring point.

Just back and realised I'm pretty pissed..


I love you Gumbo.
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,013
clint van damme said:
Who's saying it's a big deal?
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Pete. And others. King shouldn't be in charge of footballing matters etc

It's hardly caused us big issues so far that's all I'm saying
 
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M3rcian

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,014
fingers_crossed said:
It wasn‘t an exciting match, but there were some interesting tactical things that you can see when you’re at the game.
1) We were trying to play that Pep-style 3-2-5 in possession, especially in the first half. I swear I even saw some Rico Lewis style runs from Bidwell.
2) Millwall set up in a 4-4-2 mid block designed to disrupt us and they executed it perfectly. They didn’t press our defenders but they blocked all of the passing lanes out of defence, leading to a lot of sterile passing between Dovin, Thomas and Lati.
3) We should have brought Simms on much sooner. He opened up a whole new option for forward passing, suddenly we could get the whole team up the pitch faster and Millwall had to drop back. Sheaf actually had more space on the ball after that. I think changing Simms at HT could have won it for us.
4) Dovin seems more confident. He enjoys having the ball at his feet, and was solid in everything he did.

Yesterday was one of those transitional games you see when a team is trying to play a slightly different way and it isn’t quite working yet.
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Appreciate the observations (as someone forced to watch on shit Follow). Think the system FL is developing is much better in terms of solidity but lacking in terms of dynamism in the middle. Everything goes down the side and even then down the left, as Tats and MVE seem to be struggling to interconnect like they did before. Simms should defintely have been on sooner as he offered a more direct option to hit and turn their midfeild (encouraging ours get further up).
 
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covcity4life

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  • Dec 30, 2024
  • #1,015
Flying Fokker said:
Millwall fan’s view. Stupid prat walked from the station.


My 1st visit to the Ricoh/Coventry building society/shit hole in the Midlands ground. Last time was Highfield Road.

We decided to walk the 3 and a half fkin miles from Cov station and by god that 'City' is a shithole. Hardly saw any white folk until we were near to the ground, mosque to the left mosque to the right, with the odd curry house and dodgy Asian supermarket to brighten up our walk.

The city centre was like a scene from Zombie apocalypse.

Their ground is the nicest thing in the whole city.

A good crowd was there though and when they did sing it was quite impressive, but most of the time it was like a morgue in there.

Highlight of the day was at half time when I went for a smoke outside, there was only 10 metres or so between us and them, so the abuse started flying and a few plastic bottles and coins were lobbed over the fences. One Wall fella decided that was enough, jumped over our fence and proceeded to pull their fence down and wade it to some of the mouthy coventry lot. A medal is deserved.

The match was pretty shit, but we clung on and got a boring point.

Just back and realised I'm pretty pissed..


I love you Gumbo.
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Thanks for posting his racism. It adds a lot to a football forum
 
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